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  • #3,381
  • Jun 12, 2021 3:38pm Jun 12, 2021 3:38pm
A Davide Catanossi scale mystery...can anyone figure out how he calculated it?

"...which according to the scale used (14.65 pips per day)..."

http://tradinggeometrico.weebly.com/...prezzo-tempo-c
"GIVE ME 3 POINTS IN SPACE IN TIME AND WATCH ME CREATE MAGIC."
  • #3,382
  • Jun 12, 2021 4:42pm Jun 12, 2021 4:42pm
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  • #3,383
  • Jun 13, 2021 1:00am Jun 13, 2021 1:00am
http://tradinggeometrico.weebly.com/...prezzo-tempo-c

For lovers of numbers, let's see how the C level we saw in the graph could easily be found analytically:

The AB movement was composed as follows:

Minimum A Price 0.7109
Maximum B Price 0.7403 9 trading days after the A minimum
The price range is 294.8 pips, which according to the scale used (14.65 pips per day) is 20.12 price units

Since the square is the simplest growth model, simply add time as price and price as time to find point C, then point C will be exactly 20 trading days (let's approximate 20.12 to 20) plus forward at a price equal to P, where: P = 0.7109 - (9 x 0.001465) = 0.7109 –0.013185 = 0.6977 (which is a value close to what we have identified graphically, i.e. 0.6972)

Through this exercise we want once and for all to understand how the Geometric Synthesis, in spite of its graphic layout, which makes it visually appealing, is a QUANTITATIVE technique, like no other technique is, since the calculation is possible regardless of the existence or less than the graph.

Secondly, we want to show how analytical geometry, although necessary in certain applications of science, is far inferior to graphic geometry, which allows you to perform the calculation much faster, simply by drawing lines ...

obviously you need to know WHAT you do it and WHY you do it. Hello everybody.
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  • #3,384
  • Jun 13, 2021 5:20am Jun 13, 2021 5:20am
Quoting Swede
I really get why MSJ talks about this grid method as his favorite way to determine support or resistance....it is uncanny how accurate it can be.... And for additional confirmation, use the entry chart using Hurst envelopes... a killer combination !! And for confluence its nice to see the Daily ADR in the red....and weekly pivot reversal (yellow line) {image} {image}
What criterion did you come up with to identify the right impulse wave?
  • #3,385
  • Jun 13, 2021 6:26am Jun 13, 2021 6:26am
Quoting parisboy
http://tradinggeometrico.weebly.com/...prezzo-tempo-c For lovers of numbers, let's see how the C level we saw in the graph could easily be found analytically: The AB movement was composed as follows: Minimum A Price 0.7109 Maximum B Price 0.7403 9 trading days after the A minimum The price range is 294.8 pips, which according to the scale used (14.65 pips per day) is 20.12 price units Since the square is the simplest growth model, simply add time as price and price as time to find point C, then...
294.8 pips / 9 days = 32.76 pips/day....so how did he arrive at 14.65 pips/day?
"GIVE ME 3 POINTS IN SPACE IN TIME AND WATCH ME CREATE MAGIC."
  • #3,386
  • Edited 2:29pm Jun 13, 2021 1:41pm | Edited 2:29pm
Quoting giuse224
{quote} What criterion did you come up with to identify the right impulse wave?
Go back to post 3347 for one tip in determining a significant impulse wave. Look at the chart below to the far left. It shows a huge move down. Now look at where price traded going forward, what is the most significant wave after the big move. It’s not hard to determine with a bit of practice. When you overlay the grid and you place your diagonals, you will soon conclude certain levels definitely make price react. Especially when the 1 x 1 diagonals are broken.
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  • #3,387
  • Jun 13, 2021 6:10pm Jun 13, 2021 6:10pm
Quoting kapital
{quote} 294.8 pips / 9 days = 32.76 pips/day....so how did he arrive at 14.65 pips/day?
Kapital, I have been working my square root calculator and its about to burn up...I still cant figure how he came up with that and I do not understand parisboy's explanation.....how 32 pips become 14 I simply dont get it.

Curiosity made me look up the trade and I did my grill to see if the area was of interest from my standpoint if I was trading back at that junction...and yes, I would have entered long where indicated...but how to calculate what you presented Im lost.....I openned up the second chart a bit to see what it looks like...lol
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  • #3,388
  • Jun 14, 2021 2:07am Jun 14, 2021 2:07am
Quoting Swede
{quote} Kapital, I have been working my square root calculator and its about to burn up...I still cant figure how he came up with that and I do not understand parisboy's explanation.....how 32 pips become 14 I simply dont get it. Curiosity made me look up the trade and I did my grill to see if the area was of interest from my standpoint if I was trading back at that junction...and yes, I would have entered long where indicated...but how to calculate what you presented Im lost.....I openned up the second chart a bit to see what it looks like...lol...

Swede it is not "parisboy's explanation"

I just have translated from italian to engish.

I am like you I do not understand his explanation
  • #3,389
  • Jun 14, 2021 3:12am Jun 14, 2021 3:12am
DAX 1 mn

an obvious quadrilateral
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  • #3,390
  • Jun 14, 2021 6:02am Jun 14, 2021 6:02am
Quoting parisboy
{quote} Swede it is not "parisboy's explanation" I just have translated from italian to engish. I am like you I do not understand his explanation
Thank you, I’m happy to know it wasn’t just me, I know I have to take more time than most, but this one stumps me.
  • #3,391
  • Edited 10:21am Jun 14, 2021 6:36am | Edited 10:21am
Quoting parisboy
DAX 1 mn an obvious quadrilateral {image}
I think the quadrilateral is overlooked as a powerful tool to pinpoint area of interest, I find I’m using it more and more in my analyses.
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  • #3,392
  • Jun 14, 2021 1:05pm Jun 14, 2021 1:05pm
Circles can often be used to determine turning points after a move of decent proportions.....here is a circle tool I think you may like....

It comes with 4 circles with different Fib levels...and you can just use one...or all 4 to give you tons of levels...and the nice thing is you can adjust the levels to the ones you prefer.....there are other tools out there for mt4 but never with code, once you change a setting they pop right back to default, or if you change time and come back to your chart they are all out of focus again....anyway, try it out, you may find it useful...
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  • #3,393
  • Jun 14, 2021 1:49pm Jun 14, 2021 1:49pm
or, maybe you just want a circle tool to guage some of the swings...here is a nice one...
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  • #3,394
  • Jun 14, 2021 4:00pm Jun 14, 2021 4:00pm
Quoting OAPDave
Swede Its all very interesting what you are posting now but if I am being honest You are leaving me way behind now as its getting well over my head I can only just cope with the simple basic stuff Price is, either going up or down to make a range {image}
Well this takes some time, but analyses this way can pay huge rewards as MSJ has shown so many times....Lets just analyse the June 4 th low and measure it out.
Draw the previous high and the current low, place the circle touching the 3 sides and divide the circle in half. Now we can carry forward to today and we will only change the paremeter if the high is broken and stays, or the low is broken and stays...so for the next 2-3 weeks we have some wicked entries, entries that one is not afraid to take (always with appropriate stops of course)

By doing this analyses you are gaining an edge and sometimes that is all one needs...anyway here is the analyses...
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  • #3,395
  • Jun 14, 2021 4:15pm Jun 14, 2021 4:15pm
Quoting Swede
{quote} Kapital, I have been working my square root calculator and its about to burn up...I still cant figure how he came up with that and I do not understand parisboy's explanation.....how 32 pips become 14 I simply dont get it. Curiosity made me look up the trade and I did my grill to see if the area was of interest from my standpoint if I was trading back at that junction...and yes, I would have entered long where indicated...but how to calculate what you presented Im lost.....I openned up the second chart a bit to see what it looks like...lol...
I went back in time too (smile) and applied the circle-square-rectangle intersection method I use. The result is very close to his drawing and calculations.
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  • #3,396
  • Jun 14, 2021 4:26pm Jun 14, 2021 4:26pm
Quoting kapital
{quote} I went back in time too (smile) and applied the circle-square-rectangle intersection method I use. The result is very close to his drawing and calculations. {image}
it was a good exercise, funny price is trading at nearly the same level as 6 years ago..
  • #3,397
  • Jun 14, 2021 4:59pm Jun 14, 2021 4:59pm
Quoting Swede
{quote} it was a good exercise, funny price is trading at nearly the same level as 6 years ago..
The lower encircled area presents an opportunity for a buy. However, the strong resistance price met above and breach of the upper blue line creates skepticism about the potential support.
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  • #3,398
  • Jun 15, 2021 5:04am Jun 15, 2021 5:04am
A reverse day round my SQ9
Orange square High
then
Blue squares reverse
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  • #3,399
  • Jun 15, 2021 9:12am Jun 15, 2021 9:12am
Quoting OAPDave
A reverse day round my SQ9 Orange square High then Blue squares reverse {image} {image}
I see your first support 14060 was broken...next support 1.4038 and sure enough broke through for about 3 pips and then reversed....Real Nice Job on that Dave!!

Now looking at the day charts, it does look like the Big round 1.40000 in sight, and it looks good on the hourly also...we shall see...
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  • #3,400
  • Jun 15, 2021 9:22am Jun 15, 2021 9:22am
AND here is the entry chart....shows a bounce on the Weekly pivot also....but the overall trend is looking very short atm....
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