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  • #581
  • Nov 8, 2006 12:17pm Nov 8, 2006 12:17pm
Quoting jac28403
Hi Hendrick. Just wanted to say congratulations on creating this great EA. I also wanted to thank you for your unselfishness by posting it for us. I just started to read the thread yesterday and I immediately downloaded the most recent version after I saw the kind of results that you were getting, and i'm demoing it as I type. The moment I get some reults for it, I will post it here to provide you some feedback. So far I am in the green for everything.

Thanks again
Jon
Hi Jon,

Keep us posted with your results!
  • #582
  • Nov 8, 2006 12:18pm Nov 8, 2006 12:18pm
Hendrick

Congratulations with Phoenix current success!

I am new to EA's but would like to learn.
I have started with backtesting on USDJPY - downloaded file from Alpari and installed according to your manual.

The modelling quality on 1M for the last 6 months is 23% but 5M and higher is 90%- on closer inspection I found random gaps in the data string. For example 30October06 21h00 to 22h00 more than twenty minutes out of this hour is not present...randomly. I did a few spot checks and this appears to be one of the "bad" hours. The most seem to be missing anything up to 10 minutes per hour.

Is this normal? or did I download a corrupt file?
  • #583
  • Nov 8, 2006 12:25pm Nov 8, 2006 12:25pm
Quoting Palmer
Matty: 2 1/2 weeks is way too long, I'm cashing in on Friday!

Wait a minute, I thought this was the guy responsible for Phoenix....
Palmer!! That's not honest. I gave you that picture in private and asked you to keep it confidential! And now you posted it in this thread. For the next two months I will refuse to look at any strawberry that crosses my path. That will teach you! <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>

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  • #584
  • Nov 8, 2006 12:26pm Nov 8, 2006 12:26pm
Quoting Hendrick
Please be more specific! I can't help you if you don't give more details!!! What have you done so far, what are your results. Why do you think Phoenix is using a SMA 7 and 14??
Hi Hendrick, thanks for replying my message
I don't know what's SMA that you use for Phoenix Contest.
I thought you use SMA 7 and 14 because I read in the code :
SMAPeriod = 7;
SMA2Bars = 14;
Percent = 0.0032;
TakeProfit = 42;
StopLoss = 84;
TrailingStop = 0;
OSMAFast = 5;
OSMASlow = 30;
OSMASignal = 2;
EnvelopePeriod = 2;
Fast_Period = 25;
Slow_Period = 15;
DVBuySell = 0.003;
DVStayOut = 0.024;

If the SMA is not 7 and 14, mind telling me the correct SMA please?

Thank you

Kind Regards

PS: Please forgive my bad English..
  • #585
  • Nov 8, 2006 12:31pm Nov 8, 2006 12:31pm
Quoting Starshine
Hendrick

Congratulations with Phoenix current success!

I am new to EA's but would like to learn.
I have started with backtesting on USDJPY - downloaded file from Alpari and installed according to your manual.

The modelling quality on 1M for the last 6 months is 23% but 5M and higher is 90%- on closer inspection I found random gaps in the data string. For example 30October06 21h00 to 22h00 more than twenty minutes out of this hour is not present...randomly. I did a few spot checks and this appears to be one of the "bad" hours. The most seem to be missing anything up to 10 minutes per hour.

Is this normal? or did I download a corrupt file?
Hi,

I really don't know if this normal or not. So far I haven't any problems with the history data for the M15 for my backward tests. Anyone else?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>

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  • #586
  • Nov 8, 2006 12:45pm Nov 8, 2006 12:45pm
Hi, Hendrick! Thanks a lot for your EA!
As I have noticed,you had changed the settings for EUR/JPY in Phoenix 5, and the settings for other currencies are the same as in Phoenix 4. Are these new settings better than those in Phoenix 4?
What is your opinion, how often the optimization of parameters should be carried out? What is the period for optimization,last 6 months?
I've have also backtested other currencies, USD/CHF and EUR/JPY showed great results like USD/JPY did. Is it OK to put them on real account?
Thanks for help!
  • #587
  • Nov 8, 2006 1:26pm Nov 8, 2006 1:26pm
Quoting bellefemme
Hi Hendrick, thanks for replying my message
I don't know what's SMA that you use for Phoenix Contest.
I thought you use SMA 7 and 14 because I read in the code :
SMAPeriod = 7;
SMA2Bars = 14;
Percent = 0.0032;
TakeProfit = 42;
StopLoss = 84;
TrailingStop = 0;
OSMAFast = 5;
OSMASlow = 30;
OSMASignal = 2;
EnvelopePeriod = 2;
Fast_Period = 25;
Slow_Period = 15;
DVBuySell = 0.003;
DVStayOut = 0.024;

If the SMA is not 7 and 14, mind telling me the correct SMA please?

Thank you

Kind Regards

PS: Please forgive my bad English..
Hi Bellefemme (what a beautiful nickname!)<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>

<o></o>

Your English is certainly not worse than mine. As long as we understand each other it's ok!<o></o>

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I now understand what you mean with SMA 7 and 14. These values are only valid for the USDJPY. The other pairs have other values. If you want to test the USDJPY (great pair for <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Phoenix</st1lace></st1:City>!) then these values are ok.<o></o>

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Keep us posted with your results!<o></o>

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  • #588
  • Nov 8, 2006 1:36pm Nov 8, 2006 1:36pm
This was my source for historical data:

http://www.alpari-idc.com/en/dc/databank.php

Is it gone! Any alternatives?
  • #589
  • Nov 8, 2006 1:46pm Nov 8, 2006 1:46pm
Quoting Hendrick
This was my source for historical data:

http://www.alpari-idc.com/en/dc/databank.php

Is it gone! Any alternatives?
Yep, had the same problem yesterday too.... :-(
'AZBOfin' from the other forum was kind enough to post another still working link!

http://www.alpari-idc.ru/ru/dc/databank.php

Enjoy!
  • #590
  • Nov 8, 2006 2:35pm Nov 8, 2006 2:35pm
Quoting VinceTheBeast
Yep, had the same problem yesterday too.... :-(
'AZBOfin' from the other forum was kind enough to post another still working link!

http://www.alpari-idc.ru/ru/dc/databank.php

Enjoy!

The link in english

http://www.alpari-idc.ru/en/dc/databank.php
  • #591
  • Nov 8, 2006 3:34pm Nov 8, 2006 3:34pm

Following is a question (and suggestion) I would like to share with you all.


Today I started forward testing P5.2 Mode 3 (Hendrick we can't ever stop thanking you).
I set the EA on all possible pairs that were listed in Hedrick's manual.
a few hours later I was 100 pips ahead (I was positive on some pairs and negative on other pairs) Non of the EA charts reached a stop loss or take profit. A few hours later I was down close to $0 and now I'm back on $80+
My understanding is that if we close all trades (winning and loosing) every time we reach a total amount of X positive pips on all charts combined together (for example 100) we would be able to SAVE LOTS OF TIME on our "money machine". At the end of the day statistically we would be making the same amount of money during the same amount of trades but now we are trading much more so we are making more money. I know Hendrick set an option for closing trades after a certain amount of time so this would actually be going in a similar direction (trying to close slow trades and start new ones) but it would have a broader statistical look at all open positions (the general portfolio) and we would be looking at positive pips rather then time that elapsed. The logic behind this suggestion is that the market has some hours/days that it doesn't fit the average daily mileage of pips (long or short) and just goes up and down in a narrow range without closing profits or losses, this solution would be able to catch those days too without hurting the general trading system and it's risk/reward ratio. I may do some testing on this but wanted to hear your opinions before (maybe someone tried this or addressed this before and I missed it on the thread)


What do you all think?

Thanks in advance for any feedback,
Reuven

  • #592
  • Nov 8, 2006 5:38pm Nov 8, 2006 5:38pm
Henrick,

Attached is list of open trades. Until the last position was opened, gbp/jpy, profit was 150+ in 4hrs. Thats fantastic. Question I have is should the trades be closed now or should I let the program close them. I'm concerned that some or all will reverse before profit levels are triggered and total profit maybe less than what it is now.

Thanks, for the EA.
Attached File(s)
File Type: doc Phoenix 06-11-08.doc   108 KB | 415 downloads
  • #593
  • Nov 8, 2006 5:55pm Nov 8, 2006 5:55pm
I installed the EA, it shows up in the list, but when I drag it into the chart, nothing...could somebody please let me know what I am missing...

Thank you
Steve
  • #594
  • Nov 8, 2006 6:35pm Nov 8, 2006 6:35pm
Quoting PipSteve
I installed the EA, it shows up in the list, but when I drag it into the chart, nothing...could somebody please let me know what I am missing...

Thank you
There is a button at the top right next to "new order". It says "Expert Advisors". Make sure it is checked and green, not red.
"Its not where your at, but where your coming from"
  • #595
  • Nov 8, 2006 6:38pm Nov 8, 2006 6:38pm
Quoting Hendrick
Looking so far at the results of the Contest version of <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1lace w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Phoenix</st1:City></st1lace> I have to say that I’m a bit surprised that it’s performing so well. But on the other hand it’s showing the same results as seen in the backward testing, so I shouldn’t be surprised at all! (Backward testing in MT4 is a very powerful tool)<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>

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We have now 20 closed trades; <st1:metricconverter w:st="on" ProductID="17 in">17 in</st1:metricconverter> profit and <st1:metricconverter w:st="on" ProductID="3 in">3 in</st1:metricconverter> loss. The starting Balance of 10.000 has increased to <st1:metricconverter w:st="on" ProductID="27.183 in">27.183 in</st1:metricconverter> 5 weeks. And that’s a good result for an EA.<o></o>

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Another thing is that there are no consecutive losses. Very important! Also no signs that the parameters should be adjusted. First I thought that these adjustments should be made every two weeks. Looking at the Contest version of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Phoenix</st1lace></st1:City> however I think it can wait. First sign to change the parameters will be if there are consecutive losses.<o></o>

<o></o>

Some of you have posted their results of forward testing. Thanks a lot for these and please continue to do so because your results are very valuable to me. I collect them all. But I need more! And what I need most is your ideas about how to improve <st1lace w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Phoenix</st1:City></st1lace> in the future. <o></o>

<o></o>

I think I will add just one more Mode to <st1:City w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Phoenix</st1lace></st1:City>. I’m now working on a variation of the “123 Mode”. This will be a mode with a lot of trades but with a Maximal Drawdown below the 5%. Very cool!<o></o>

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So, come on guys. Tell me what you think about <st1:City w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Phoenix</st1lace></st1:City>, your ideas, your results, your criticism, your I don’t know what, but post it!!!<o></o>
Harry- Hard to critisize it. Lets give it about 2-4 weeks before any trends show up that can be improved upon.

How about spreading around the 40g's you are going to win so we can use your money also with Phoenix? (I didn't think so but thought I would ask anyway)
"Its not where your at, but where your coming from"
  • #596
  • Nov 8, 2006 7:09pm Nov 8, 2006 7:09pm
Quoting athalon7
There is a button at the top right next to "new order". It says "Expert Advisors". Make sure it is checked and green, not red.
Thank you so much for your quick reply. I made sure it is green. I have downloaded other EAs before (Vegas tunel, Bagovino, etc....) and they all work.

I dont get it. Does it work will all pairs? I am trying with GBPUSD.
Steve
  • #597
  • Nov 8, 2006 7:42pm Nov 8, 2006 7:42pm
Quoting PipSteve
Thank you so much for your quick reply. I made sure it is green. I have downloaded other EAs before (Vegas tunel, Bagovino, etc....) and they all work.

I dont get it. Does it work will all pairs? I am trying with GBPUSD.
It requires v5_6.3 to use the gpd/usd. It was posted by Hendrick not too long ago. Check the posts by Hendrick and you will find it.

Hope this helps
  • #598
  • Nov 8, 2006 7:55pm Nov 8, 2006 7:55pm
Quoting traderlismiss
It requires v5_6.3 to use the gpd/usd. It was posted by Hendrick not too long ago. Check the posts by Hendrick and you will find it.

Hope this helps
Still nothing, sorry....but thank you for helping.
Steve
  • #599
  • Nov 8, 2006 7:59pm Nov 8, 2006 7:59pm
Quoting PipSteve
Still nothing, sorry....but thank you for helping.
Steve, are you selecting allow live trading. Also are you turning on the EA above the chart. You should create your chart and drag the EA onto the chart and check proper settings. If you are doing all this then I am sorry for repeating it.
  • #600
  • Nov 8, 2006 8:15pm Nov 8, 2006 8:15pm
who is your broker. I can,t get it to work either on CFG



Quoting PipSteve
Thank you so much for your quick reply. I made sure it is green. I have downloaded other EAs before (Vegas tunel, Bagovino, etc....) and they all work.

I dont get it. Does it work will all pairs? I am trying with GBPUSD.
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