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  • Edited 1:52am Apr 14, 2021 12:56am | Edited 1:52am
  •  Jemook
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Jul 2011 | 252 Posts
Quoting Takisd
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Hey Jeremy, My only gripe with GP is your liquidity is not very deep and slippage happens often.
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Cheers for the response! I appreciate your approach.

Looks like you traded a few years ago with us and I believe we’ve improved a lot since then. I’d like to invite you to test again for yourself, we can provide the testing account for you to quantify on your own. Would love to hear what you think.

We have one of the thickest top of books in the market and our slippage and rejection stats look good from our side. If you have an example of a trade receipt showing thin liquidity or slippage then we’re happy to analyse in public but again you traded a few years ago and things have changed a lot since then.

Either way we show our slippage stats on this page and you’ll find that slippage is very balanced:

https://www.globalprime.com/trading-...ions/slippage/

Quoting Takisd
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The aggregators you use for your liquidity offer you that advantage of allowing you to show trade receipts, but most liquidity providers do not allow that.
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We have direct relationships with our liquidity providers. This is why we can show trade receipts. If we used a prime of prime (which I think you may be referring to?) you refer to as an aggregator or liquidity pool then we’d have this limitation.

PrimeXM as our aggregator is the only intermediary that could doctor the receipts on the way to us but they are a top technology company with no incentive to do so.

We’ve been offering trade receipts for almost 10 years and never had an issue with an LP that didn’t want to be disclosed. If we had an LP that wasn’t happy we would remove them from the stack.

Tier 1 banks in particular are anti b-book as they only see the toxic flow from them as "the juicy flow" is all internalised by the broker. So they are on our side if anything. If b-books didn’t exist they would see trillions of flow a month more.

Trade receipts are not a gimmick - they hold us accountable to our promise of great execution. Anyone with an issue can get in touch with all the facts rather than have to rely on the word of their broker. Keep in mind that our trade receipts are now automated and is more than just a detailed trade confirmation showing fill speed, slippage, spread, market profile, liquidity provider, etc

Quoting Takisd
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This is obviously a downside to using the type of liquidity you use and also the metatrader system itself. Most brokers now are not b-booking their whole book, they are using netting and various other strategies to hedge.
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There aren't many retail brokers in the world who have the technological capabilities to deploy the ‘market making’ strategies you refer to. Its actually very difficult to make a price and passively hedge out of risk in the underlying market. This and the fact that its less profitable means most brokers avoid this model and instead run B-books. And running a b-book is so easy for most brokers that they don't need to get clever on how they run their risk.

As for MT4 we now offer TraderEvolution - https://www.globalprime.com/institut...aderevolution/

Through TraderEvolution you can see level 2 depth - you can open a demo to check it out from inside your Client Portal. We are also about to launch TradingView cross platform trading alongside it. So you can open/manage your positions on both platforms using the same login. Pretty cool.

Quoting Takisd
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GP is a retail broker. It was originally tied to another broker via a parent and here it is. Jeremy does a great job and always has. I simply asked, how are they going to adapt to a market that doesn't care so much about the transparency of trade receipts but cares more about the execution and size so long as they are getting paid. Which is what the new-age of dealing is doing.
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Our team manages the liquidity and anything FX related for parent company and Global Prime. Always has. We service many other brokers and institutional clients with our pricing and that's where we learned the art of liquidity management. This is why I'm excited to hear about how you see things have changed if you give us another go.

As for where we go to from here? A huge focus on education via top class trading mentors which is currently available for our clients. Also a new commission model is in beta test that is up to 60% cheaper than the competition. Hit me up if you want to test it out.

Thanks again for your post - I hope the above helps. We are always a phone call away if you want to pick our brains deeper on this or anything else. I encourage a call especially for someone like you that seems to have taken the time to see how things work.

Cheers,
Jeremy
 
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  • Apr 14, 2021 1:00am Apr 14, 2021 1:00am
  •  Jemook
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Jul 2011 | 252 Posts
Quoting Redbaron81
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I like GP...but I've noticed few months back my trades where executed instantly...I made around 10k profit in the last 2-3 months and last 2 weeks or so some of my trades have suddenly "acquired" 1-3 sec delay...I still like them a lot but I've noticed this pattern with other brokers after they see your profitable. On the other hand My main account is with Oanda Canada and (they don't hide there a MM) I have never experienced a delay, no matter how much I make. IDK what to think about any of this, I'm sketched out about the whole thing...its so...
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Please email me at [email protected] ASAP so we can analyse your trading execution on an account level and see what's going on. 1-3 second delay is not normal at all. Majors sub 1 lot are filled in average 23ms and it goes as high as 90ms average for 5-10 lots due to VWAP fills.

You can see our average execution speeds over here: https://www.globalprime.com/execution-speeds/

I hope you'll give us the opportunity to work out what's going on and report back to the forum as that doesn't sound right at all.

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  • Apr 14, 2021 4:31pm Apr 14, 2021 4:31pm
  •  Saxio
  • | Joined Mar 2021 | Status: Member | 75 Posts
Quoting Jemook
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{quote} Please email me at [email protected] ASAP so we can analyse your trading execution on an account level and see what's going on. 1-3 second delay is not normal at all. Majors sub 1 lot are filled in average 23ms and it goes as high as 90ms average for 5-10 lots due to VWAP fills. You can see our average execution speeds over here: https://www.globalprime.com/execution-speeds/ I hope you'll give us the opportunity to work out what's going on and report back to the forum as that doesn't sound right at all. Cheers Jeremy...
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Hi Jeremy,


Sounds good !

can you give some numbers for 10 - 50 lots ?


regards.
 
 
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  • Apr 15, 2021 3:26am Apr 15, 2021 3:26am
  •  Jemook
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Jul 2011 | 252 Posts
Quoting Saxio
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{quote} Hi Jeremy, Sounds good ! can you give some numbers for 10 - 50 lots ? regards.
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Sure thing! But please email me so I can check your executions

1m-5m tickets average execution speed for Feb and March 2021

Exotics 35ms
Majors 84ms
Minors 153ms

Cheers,
Jem
 
 
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  • Apr 15, 2021 9:13am Apr 15, 2021 9:13am
  •  snakejulio
  • | Joined Jul 2016 | Status: Junior Member | 1 Post
The spreads are very good
 
 
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  •  Jemook
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Jul 2011 | 252 Posts
Quoting snakejulio
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The spreads are very good
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You've been here 5 years and that's your first post? We are honored

Have a great weekend.

Cheers,
Jem
 
 
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  • Apr 16, 2021 11:50am Apr 16, 2021 11:50am
  •  Esbuga
  • | Joined Aug 2020 | Status: Member | 43 Posts
After months of failing to find a flawless Broker on forums and came across Global Prime after a few weeks of background checking and try to find something bad, well I couldn't.. Few issues here or there but not company fault for sure.

2 days ago I opened my live account. My account is pretty new and for now I cannot comment nothing negative/positive on execution but hell if I feel way safer when I know that my money is with them...
 
 
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  • Apr 16, 2021 2:41pm Apr 16, 2021 2:41pm
  •  Saxio
  • | Joined Mar 2021 | Status: Member | 75 Posts
Quoting Jemook
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{quote} Sure thing! But please email me so I can check your executions 1m-5m tickets average execution speed for Feb and March 2021 Exotics 35ms Majors 84ms Minors 153ms Cheers, Jem
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Looks fantastic , time to open an account

when you estimate when this new commission deal will come out ?
what about the Tradeview integration ?
 
 
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  •  collosangy05
  • Joined Nov 2018 | Status: Diplomatic Member | 83 Posts
Quoting Saxio
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{quote} Looks fantastic , time to open an account when you estimate when this new commission deal will come out ? what about the Tradeview integration ?
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The new commissions are already underway (beta). I was just currently setup on new comms. Global Prime total outstanding

Tradingview is just about done final testing
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  • Apr 17, 2021 9:41am Apr 17, 2021 9:41am
  •  Jemook
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Jul 2011 | 252 Posts
Quoting Saxio
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{quote} Looks fantastic , time to open an account when you estimate when this new commission deal will come out ? what about the Tradeview integration ?
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Zero commissions are being beta tested at the moment. All accounts being opened now are eligible.

TradingView is all integrated and tested and works amazing. Just adding our new stocks in and we will release as soon as it's done.

Once live, you simply enter your TraderEvolution login details on TradingView and you are good to go. You will then be able to manage your positions in TE or TV as it's mirrored

Exciting stuff!

Cheers
Jeremy
 
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  • Apr 19, 2021 5:58pm Apr 19, 2021 5:58pm
  •  Saxio
  • | Joined Mar 2021 | Status: Member | 75 Posts
Quoting Jemook
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{quote} Zero commissions are being beta tested at the moment. All accounts being opened now are eligible. TradingView is all integrated and tested and works amazing. Just adding our new stocks in and we will release as soon as it's done. Once live, you simply enter your TraderEvolution login details on TradingView and you are good to go. You will then be able to manage your positions in TE or TV as it's mirrored Exciting stuff! Cheers Jeremy
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zero commissions ?! You gonna mark-up the spread ?
 
 
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  • Apr 20, 2021 3:12am Apr 20, 2021 3:12am
  •  forevermaat
  • | Joined Mar 2018 | Status: Member | 97 Posts
Quoting Saxio
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{quote} zero commissions ?! You gonna mark-up the spread ?
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0.1 pip on both bid and ask. Not sure if that is economically viable, except for HFT/UHFT clients. I guess time will tell.
 
 
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  • Apr 20, 2021 3:24am Apr 20, 2021 3:24am
  •  Jemook
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Jul 2011 | 252 Posts
Becomes a volume game. We've done the numbers and definitely viable.

Can see how much cheaper we are for all in cost (comms+spreads) vs other brokers over here: https://globalprime.com/au/

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  •  Saxio
  • | Joined Mar 2021 | Status: Member | 75 Posts
Quoting Jemook
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Becomes a volume game. We've done the numbers and definitely viable. Can see how much cheaper we are for all in cost (comms+spreads) vs other brokers over here: https://globalprime.com/au/ {image} Cheers, Jeremy
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you gonna put a lot of brokers out of business

no leverage on BTC ?!
 
 
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  •  forevermaat
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Quoting Saxio
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{quote} you gonna put a lot of brokers out of business no leverage on BTC ?!
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Even before ASIC product intervention, they were only doing 1:1 leverage. GP is conservative re crypto. But as we see more mainstream investment banks (Goldman Sacks, Citibank, BoA, etc) start making sizable bets, maybe GP might loosen up leverage for the non-Au clients.

edit: don't hold your breath
 
 
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  • Apr 20, 2021 9:42am Apr 20, 2021 9:42am
  •  Jemook
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Jul 2011 | 252 Posts
Quoting Saxio
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{quote} you gonna put a lot of brokers out of business no leverage on BTC ?!
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Leverage on extremely volatile crypto assets as an A-book broker = nooo thanks. There are ways we are exploring but we have to manage our negative balance risk as we actually owe negative balances to counterparties.

B-bookers just reset their negative balances back to 0 after earning the full deposit of a clients account. Ce la vie.

Any broker offering you 500:1 leverage is almost certainly b-booking their clients as no sane A-book broker would ever wear the counterparty risk especially after SNB.

Cheers,
Jem
 
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  • Apr 20, 2021 10:25am Apr 20, 2021 10:25am
  •  Saxio
  • | Joined Mar 2021 | Status: Member | 75 Posts
Quoting Jemook
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Becomes a volume game. We've done the numbers and definitely viable. Can see how much cheaper we are for all in cost (comms+spreads) vs other brokers over here: https://globalprime.com/au/ {image} Cheers, Jeremy
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Up till what size are those spreads valid ?
 
 
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  • Apr 20, 2021 6:48pm Apr 20, 2021 6:48pm
  •  KoiFish
  • | Joined Aug 2015 | Status: swimming | 200 Posts
Is Gleneagle Securities a Prime of Prime?
 
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  •  Jemook
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Jul 2011 | 252 Posts
Quoting Saxio
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{quote} Up till what size are those spreads valid ?
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It's showing top of book and depends on the pair but most pairs have ~500,000 (5 lots at top of book). You can see real time depth inside TraderEvolution platform. Demo is available from inside client portal.

Quoting KoiFish
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Is Gleneagle Securities a Prime of Prime?
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Yes, it sure is. We prime with BNP Paribas and Standard Chartered. This has enabled us to source and aggregate direct relationships with 25+ Tier 1 banks and non banks like XTX, Citadel etc. Other brokers use us a Prime of Prime to access our custom built liquidity.

From the way we've structured our liquidity we can hold individual LPs accountable vs a retail broker that has to go through a Prime of Prime like us or LMAX or IS Prime. Sucden, Invast, FC Stone and usually only has one line of defense + a backup POP available.

As you can imagine most retail brokers are not able to source a Prime Broker as the risks on their b-books are way too high even if they have billion dollar balance sheets. If a PB is scared to touch them what's that saying?

Check out our response on this post on the Prime of Prime broker thread: https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...6#post13504296

Cheers,
Jem
 
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  • Apr 21, 2021 6:28am Apr 21, 2021 6:28am
  •  Saxio
  • | Joined Mar 2021 | Status: Member | 75 Posts
Quoting Jemook
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Becomes a volume game. We've done the numbers and definitely viable. Can see how much cheaper we are for all in cost (comms+spreads) vs other brokers over here: https://globalprime.com/au/ {image} Cheers, Jeremy
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Hi Jeremy,


is this new commission schedule available for worldwide clients or only Australians ?
 
 
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