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  • #7,341
  • Apr 18, 2021 10:35am Apr 18, 2021 10:35am
Quoting FKhan
I cant understand why so much heat is goin on in the thread. anyways i hope to reach my goal this week... im 2k away... gotta stay composeddd prayers to all others who in the challenges too
Good luck Khan!!
  • #7,342
  • Edited 10:58am Apr 18, 2021 10:46am | Edited 10:58am
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} i am more amazed that Paul can stay polite and not go down the stupid name calling game route like the "good"s have done... not suru i understand why they calling him Paula, how that relate to FTMO topic, if they trying to imply as a girl he would be inferior, hurling it on him as an insult, or they just too weak minded to purely focus on the content he says, without trolling. like or not, agree or not what Paul writes, and i dont like or agree with probably half of it, but he doesnt cross bellow a certain level. so cheers Paul!
Lol if you think indirectly calling people liars and fraudulent accomplices simply because they provide valid points to counter unproven negative remarks is " polite", then you're as delusional as Paula is.

And if you think our female counterpart are "inferior" for whatever weird reason, that's on you. Deal with your moral confusions yourself.

Inasmuch as things go off the rails a couple of times, it's all harmless banter on the internet between people with opposing views, it's not a quarrel and we're not enemies. Don't make it any more complicated than that with such comments.
  • #7,343
  • Apr 18, 2021 11:24am Apr 18, 2021 11:24am
Quoting Koop
{quote} Lol if you think indirectly calling people liars and fraudulent accomplices simply because they provide valid points to counter unproven negative remarks is " polite", then you're as delusional as Paula is. And if you think our female counterpart are "inferior" for whatever weird reason, that's on you. Deal with your moral confusions yourself. Inasmuch as things go off the rails a couple of times, it's all harmless banter on the internet between people with opposing views, it's not a quarrel and we're not enemies. Don't make it any more...
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} Second time you call me Paula. Paula in my country is female name. Because you have insulted me several times, now this makes me think that you could even be misogynist. Are you? Sure that's a reason to supend an account.
That was 25th March. Since then you and those FTMO's relatives have tried to discredit me with the same strategy: misogynist comments, disrespectful messages, insults and inappropiate supensions (always rejected by FF). Even you shouted at my profile with a Paula comment after that.

The truth is that no one cares about anyone else being a girl or not. It does not change anything. Only you care and think you can hurt anyone by that stupid strategy.

This is the first time I'm going to talk about you, as you are not the topic of thread (unless you are FTMO). Take this well-founded accusations: you are misogynist and you are a liar.
Always ready to help
  • #7,344
  • Apr 18, 2021 11:38am Apr 18, 2021 11:38am
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} {quote} That was 25th March. Since then you and those FTMO's relatives have tried to discredit me with the same strategy: misogynist comments, disrespectful messages, insults and inappropiate supensions (always rejected by FF). Even you shouted at my profile with a Paula comment after that. The truth is that no one cares about anyone else being a girl or not. It does not change anything. Only you care and think you can hurt anyone by that stupid strategy. This is the first time I'm going to talk about you, as you are not the topic of thread...
Well, trolls get treated like trolls my friend.
You repeatedly lie and twist things to suit your false narratives and strange vendetta against a business you're not interested in, you discredit valid proof and reasons from others by referring to them as accomplices...

You're not interested in facts or respectful discourse so why shouldn't you be treated as a troll?
You're a troll, so your opinion of me doesn't matter.
Just be more truthful in your argument and may be people will take you seriously. Even the Forex factory admins don't like trolls so I guess that's why you keep getting suspended.

No hard feelings Paula...
I even shouted you out
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  • #7,345
  • Apr 18, 2021 11:46am Apr 18, 2021 11:46am
Questions for Tomas..

Are there any future plans to allow instant withdrawals/profit split payments to ewallet vendors such as Neteller and Skrill?

Also, is there a chance that one could one day make withdrawals at any time of the month or even biweekly?
  • #7,346
  • Apr 18, 2021 11:51am Apr 18, 2021 11:51am
Quoting Koop
{quote} Well, trolls get treated like trolls my friend. You repeatedly lie and twist things to suit your false narratives and strange vendetta against a business you're not interested in, you discredit valid proof and reasons from others by referring to them as accomplices... You're not interested in facts or respectful discourse so why shouldn't you be treated as a troll? You're a troll, so your opinion of me doesn't matter. Just be more truthful in your argument and may be people will take you seriously. Even the Forex factory admins don't like...
You are still playing with stupid tactics.

From my side:
All sustained by arguments. Always ready to discuss the topic. Always respectful. Never talked about anything personal of other users. Never suspended by FF. etc. etc.

The reason that there are more trolls than not in this thread, does not convert me into a troll. You can say it one thousand times, it won't make it true.

I think you should focus on helping others on whatever you know about trading instead of focusing on insulting me. Anyone may read my posts in any thread. I help! Contribute! No issues! This Commercial Content thread is what it is: a trading circus. And anyone that just approaches here and says something that is not good for FTMO or asks some question that FTMO doesn't like is a troll, a clown, a girl, etc.
Always ready to help
  • #7,347
  • Apr 18, 2021 12:03pm Apr 18, 2021 12:03pm
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} That's not true. It's not free. You have to pay. FTMO recently accepted that fees are part of their revenue.
That's where the "if you're sure you can do it" comes in. Fee is refunded with first split. Then you are trading with absolutely 0 skin the game. Zero, zilch, nada. You are literally trading with house money, you have absolutely ZERO to lose. How much better of a risk: reward scenario can you ask for? Seriously, find me one better. I can earn 70% of profits on 400K and I have none of my own money at risk. Plus, I can do this at multiple companies. I'm sorry, but you guys are spending too much time looking for the holes, when you could be making great money. Yes, way more than your personal account, where, by the way, ALL of your money is at risk.
  • #7,348
  • Apr 18, 2021 12:09pm Apr 18, 2021 12:09pm
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} That's not true. It's not free. You have to pay. FTMO recently accepted that fees are part of their revenue.
Fees are part of every similar companies revenue. For some reason, you have signaled out FTMO as the enemy though. As far as conflict of interest, that's quite an oxymoron, 95% of brokers win when you lose and vice versa. Yes, even the one's that claim STP. Forex is a shady business in general, look at all the banks that get fined for price manipulation. Watch price at the London "fix" everyday. This is a business to me, I cannot come up with a better business model, than having no overhead other than my internet and update or purchase a new computer every 2-3 years. I have no other expenses and at this point 0 money at risk. My worst case scenario is break a rule and start over. Only commodity I have at risk is another 45 days to get back to where I am today.
  • #7,349
  • Apr 18, 2021 12:16pm Apr 18, 2021 12:16pm
Perhaps a new thread should be started with folks either trading with or genuinely interested in trading with FTMO.....thread starter can block anyone not contributing worthwhile content. This thread can remain and everyone who wishes to spend there time finding the holes as opposed to making money can continue to post.
  • #7,350
  • Apr 18, 2021 1:01pm Apr 18, 2021 1:01pm
Quoting pipmaster77
Perhaps a new thread should be started with folks either trading with or genuinely interested in trading with FTMO.....thread starter can block anyone not contributing worthwhile content. This thread can remain and everyone who wishes to spend there time finding the holes as opposed to making money can continue to post.
@pipmaster77 I would love that, I just wanted to find a community of traders who were with FTMO or doing the challenges where we could chat and discuss how it was going. Trading is a lonely business we shouldn't being trying to cut everyone down
  • #7,351
  • Apr 18, 2021 2:53pm Apr 18, 2021 2:53pm
Quoting pipmaster77
Perhaps a new thread should be started with folks either trading with or genuinely interested in trading with FTMO.....thread starter can block anyone not contributing worthwhile content. This thread can remain and everyone who wishes to spend there time finding the holes as opposed to making money can continue to post.
Totally agree. I support that.

Alternatively, there's already a thread ( https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...8#post13500378 ) where people discuss prop firms with civility. (I may have just ruined that by posting this link, sorry Masterrmind).

If Tomas or Otakar won't block disruptive posters, the other thread could always serve as a place to discuss our opinions without necessarily ruining a Company's business thread, if we would all kindly oblige.
  • #7,352
  • Apr 18, 2021 4:10pm Apr 18, 2021 4:10pm
Quoting pipmaster77
Perhaps a new thread should be started with folks either trading with or genuinely interested in trading with FTMO.....thread starter can block anyone not contributing worthwhile content. This thread can remain and everyone who wishes to spend there time finding the holes as opposed to making money can continue to post.
Indeed. All the prop trading haters should have their own thread where they can debate the cons of this model and this thread should be for people who are either already trading with FTMO or are potentially interested in doing so.
  • #7,353
  • Apr 18, 2021 4:16pm Apr 18, 2021 4:16pm
Quoting EnoFX
{quote} Indeed. All the prop trading haters should have their own thread where they can debate the cons of this model and this thread should be for people who are either already trading with FTMO or are potentially interested in doing so.
Right, but only the thread starter can block, so we'd have to go the opposite way. Leave this one for the naysayers to enjoy each other's company and start a new one for us.
  • #7,354
  • Apr 18, 2021 5:20pm Apr 18, 2021 5:20pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Right, but only the thread starter can block, so we'd have to go the opposite way. Leave this one for the naysayers to enjoy each other's company and start a new one for us.
Logistically do you think it would be feasible to do this? Maybe get Tomas or Otakar to hop on it as well, since it feels like this thread has been taken over
  • #7,355
  • Apr 19, 2021 3:37am Apr 19, 2021 3:37am
Only GN trades. Verification is the easy part. Onto the next challenge
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  • #7,356
  • Apr 19, 2021 3:53am Apr 19, 2021 3:53am
i was thinking of opening a discord for people who are funded and for people who want to become funded and take challenges so we can cooperate between us, talk about finance, economies, political situations, monetary policies etc...
  • #7,357
  • Apr 19, 2021 6:29am Apr 19, 2021 6:29am
Quoting Rayder4Life
i was thinking of opening a discord for people who are funded and for people who want to become funded and take challenges so we can cooperate between us, talk about finance, economies, political situations, monetary policies etc...
I know of several discord and Telegram groups and they are a hot mess. Non of them really serve the intended purpose and get flooded by scammers.

Don’t take it personal either but these channels are monumental time suck and complete waste of time. My advice is to tune out social media and concentrate on your trading game.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #7,358
  • Apr 19, 2021 7:03am Apr 19, 2021 7:03am
well then lets keep the flooding going here lol
  • #7,359
  • Apr 19, 2021 7:11am Apr 19, 2021 7:11am
Quoting Rayder4Life
well then lets keep the flooding going here lol
It won't be much different then here. You'll get 5% useful content mixed in with 95% complete nonsense. Just look at the various FTMO FB groups. Moderators spend most of their days herding cats.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #7,360
  • Apr 19, 2021 8:22am Apr 19, 2021 8:22am
Quoting Rayder4Life
well then lets keep the flooding going here lol
Discord is sort of disorganized, telegram is even worse. Difficult to also keep up with the important messages when arguments start in such spaces.

Go here, it's better for all round discussions about prop firms and related issues - https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...8#post13500378
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