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  • #7,281
  • Apr 17, 2021 3:50pm Apr 17, 2021 3:50pm
I really dont care and this is my last post....AGAIN WHY copy trades when they dont want to make their 30% split in the market,,,,This opposite off all common sence its like saying 2+2 is 5...good bye...And i didnt say the trades with FXpig is going to market,but they atleast have the possibility if a trader does well
Insanityoing same ting over expecting different results..Einstein
  • #7,282
  • Apr 17, 2021 3:51pm Apr 17, 2021 3:51pm
Quoting FXsniper111
{quote} Why the hell would they copy trades when the traders trades doesnt go into the market at all if they where interested in serius traders they would first off all let people trade live markets with their split off 30% then mayby copied the best traders trades....My god... EDIT:I did a challenge 100k in January and passed,but failed the verification with 1.4% to go on a NQ fade,but had i known then that its all demo trading like Thomas admitted to i would not have bothered at all...
how should i know? we can speculate but that will lead nowhere..u choose to think that MFF is copying ur trades, i doubt that. but as long as they are paying you, that s what matters, wouldn t you agree? the model is the same mate, no trades of urs or mine go straight thro, but after a while if they see ur consistent and makin some % returns month after month they might choose to copy your trades? regardless of the company it s all speculation imho.
but u said MFF just paid your share, right? that s good to know. cheers
  • #7,283
  • Apr 17, 2021 3:55pm Apr 17, 2021 3:55pm
Quoting 1odi
{quote} i have read that, nothing changed...it still doesn t say if they do copy the trades or not, so there s nothing there. as i said, imho, all these prop firms could open up accounts with brokers and claim they do copy trades..so? really, unless they refuse payments or rub people there s nothing there. you re entitled to ur own views as that s the democracy all about, but that doesn t mean you are right. you can say whatever you want about me, i don t really care dude, just pls let s keep this thread clean. if u have evidence that what u claim...
The thing is that I also didn't have evidence that they weren't trading with their "traders" signals. It was a conjecture that turns to be right now.

I have made a lot of questions about this FTMO's thing. The answers are always personal comments about me. Weird, isn't it?

As days pass, more fellow traders clearly start to identify this business as a participation fees business and not as a prop-firm business as they demanded. I didn't have evidence of this, just conjectures but always supported by arguments. Everytime they try to answer some of my questions, the thing gets closer to what my conjectures address. Things they demanded are easy to prove, instead they look very complicated to prove because they don't answer some questions and mention lawyers as you can see in the last post.

Prop-firms trade, as any of us does. We have never considered another trader as a competitor. They refer to other prop-firms (traders?) as competitors. That means they don't consider themselves traders. It seems like they are just worried about who can get more participation fees. Probably, the real business and my first impression that I shared here. We must learn to accept other's opinions about some third party business without insulting the person who shares his honest and respectful opinions.
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  • #7,284
  • Apr 17, 2021 3:57pm Apr 17, 2021 3:57pm
Quoting Mtinifx
You wanna watch this video guys. It makes sense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTM-HTnOrFk
Solid video. I actually disagreed with this guy on his 5ers videos (and I let him know of course lol). But he's mostly spot on here.
Fxsniper and the rest should watch this video.
  • #7,285
  • Apr 17, 2021 4:08pm Apr 17, 2021 4:08pm
Quoting FXsniper111
{quote} Why the hell would they copy trades when the traders trades doesnt go into the market at all if they where interested in serius traders they would first off all let people trade live markets with their split off 30% then mayby copied the best traders trades....My god... EDIT:I did a challenge 100k in January and passed,but failed the verification with 1.4% to go on a NQ fade,but had i known then that its all demo trading like Thomas admitted to i would not have bothered at all...
Haha Sniper said "if they were actually interested in serious Traders they would LET ALL TRADERS trade live accounts, then maybe copy the best Traders' trades"

Haha you mean they should risk their live funds on the live markets before deciding which Traders they want to copy? Wow.

Sorry man, i didnt know money that enters your bank account is much different when you're trading on an FTMO demo compared to when it's says "FTMO real account".
are you worried about the money in your FTMO platform or the one you actually receive if you trade profitably? Which one is real to you?
  • #7,286
  • Apr 17, 2021 4:09pm Apr 17, 2021 4:09pm
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} Very suspicious! No broker of a entire list of regulated brokers suits your needs... From your point of view, only FTMO, that in fact isn't a broker, is good in trading conditions terms... A demo account is also valid. Just I would like to see your results in another part different than FTMO. The same trades but in a demo account in a trusted broker. Otherwise, I will believe you are hiding something.
Try reading instead of blabbering on about more baseless accusations.

Critical thinking clearly isn't your thing.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #7,287
  • Apr 17, 2021 4:11pm Apr 17, 2021 4:11pm
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} The thing is that I also didn't have evidence that they weren't trading with their "traders" signals. It was a conjecture that turns to be right now. I have made a lot of questions about this FTMO's thing. The answers are always personal comments about me. Weird, isn't it? As days pass, more fellow traders clearly start to identify this business as a participation fees business and not as a prop-firm business as they demanded. I didn't have evidence of this, just conjectures but always supported by arguments. Everytime they try to answer...
i do agree with you on some points your making, and i m not defending FTMO or any other prop firm out there, but at this moment in time it s all speculation. do u really think they are gonna incriminate themselfs? so my point was this, unless some shred of evidence comes forward, there s nothing there. cheers
  • #7,288
  • Apr 17, 2021 4:17pm Apr 17, 2021 4:17pm
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} The thing is that I also didn't have evidence that they weren't trading with their "traders" signals. It was a conjecture that turns to be right now. I have made a lot of questions about this FTMO's thing. The answers are always personal comments about me. Weird, isn't it? As days pass, more fellow traders clearly start to identify this business as a participation fees business and not as a prop-firm business as they demanded. I didn't have evidence of this, just conjectures but always supported by arguments. Everytime they try to answer...
Hi Paul please i have an issue i will like to discuss with you i dont know if you will spare some of your precious time to assist me i will pm you about the whole thing infact i have been trying to pin point where i can quickly get to you i missed you on the other thread .....i will code your eas....Rgds
  • #7,289
  • Apr 17, 2021 4:22pm Apr 17, 2021 4:22pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Try reading instead of blabbering on about more baseless accusations. Critical thinking clearly isn't your thing.
You clearly refuse to open a demo account and share the same results.

You only want to share a trade explorer with FTMO. A firm that clearly has been lying for a while about its trading with live accounts. Many other's like me might think that that account server will be modify to show better results than those you may really accomplish.

It's simple, a demo trade explorer with some trusted broker (up to you to decide which one but different than FTMO) that has the same or similar results.
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  • #7,290
  • Apr 17, 2021 4:37pm Apr 17, 2021 4:37pm
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} You clearly refuse to open a demo account and share the same results. You only want to share a trade explorer with FTMO. A firm that clearly has been lying for a while about its trading with live accounts. Many other's like me might think that that account server will be modify to show better results than those you may really accomplish. It's simple, a demo trade explorer with some trusted broker (up to you to decide which one but different than FTMO) that has the same or similar results.
Just wow. Dude has been trading since 2008, he's also passed the 5%ers eval, is in the process of a CTI eval and is on his 2nd FTMO challenge. He doesn't care about only FTMO, he has simply realized trading without having your own money at stake is simply a better option. You can clearly see he has been posting for 13 years. So now, you are theorizing, he works for FTMO and they are paying him to show manipulated results. You can't even make this shit up. How much of a conspiracy theorist are you ?
  • #7,291
  • Apr 17, 2021 4:38pm Apr 17, 2021 4:38pm
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} You clearly refuse to open a demo account and share the same results. You only want to share a trade explorer with FTMO. A firm that clearly has been lying for a while about its trading with live accounts. Many other's like me might think that that account server will be modify to show better results than those you may really accomplish. It's simple, a demo trade explorer with some trusted broker (up to you to decide which one but different than FTMO) that has the same or similar results.
Again, accusing me of lying.

Anything to boost your self-esteem. Pitiful Paula.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #7,292
  • Apr 17, 2021 4:47pm Apr 17, 2021 4:47pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Just wow. Dude has been trading since 2008, he's also passed the 5%ers eval, is in the process of a CTI eval and is on his 2nd FTMO challenge. He doesn't care about only FTMO, he has simply realized trading without having your own money at stake is simply a better option. You can clearly see he has been posting for 13 years. So now, you are theorizing, he works for FTMO and they are paying him to show manipulated results. You can't even make this shit up. How much of a conspiracy theorist are you ?
He can trade for 40 years. And RaulLambo: https://www.instagram.com/lamboraul/?hl=en

Based on what I have seen till now, everything coming from FTMO is suspicious. There are many reasons to believe they pay for being promoted. It is a simple demo account what I'm talking about. I don't know what's wrong with that.

Anyway, it does not matter. Not interested in your things.
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  • #7,293
  • Apr 17, 2021 4:48pm Apr 17, 2021 4:48pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Again, accusing me of lying. Anything to boost your self-esteem. Pitiful Paula.
Unless you are FTMO, nothing in my post says you are lying...

Better if you don't take it personal, as it seems very confusing.
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  • #7,294
  • Apr 17, 2021 4:54pm Apr 17, 2021 4:54pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Again, accusing me of lying. Anything to boost your self-esteem. Pitiful Paula.
The first thing I'm going to accuse you of: you are misogynist.

Now, you can say I have accused you of something.
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  • #7,295
  • Apr 17, 2021 4:54pm Apr 17, 2021 4:54pm
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} Unless you are FTMO, nothing in my post says you are lying... Better if you don't take it personal, as it seems very confusing.
Saying the account server is being modified to show better results is accusing me of lying. But then again, if manna from heaven fell on your head, you'd probably question God as well because afterall, you're the Messiah.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #7,296
  • Apr 17, 2021 4:56pm Apr 17, 2021 4:56pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Just wow. Dude has been trading since 2008, he's also passed the 5%ers eval, is in the process of a CTI eval and is on his 2nd FTMO challenge. He doesn't care about only FTMO, he has simply realized trading without having your own money at stake is simply a better option. You can clearly see he has been posting for 13 years. So now, you are theorizing, he works for FTMO and they are paying him to show manipulated results. You can't even make this shit up. How much of a conspiracy theorist are you ?
Thanks brother.

I wouldn't have the foggiest idea of how to modify server results anyways.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #7,297
  • Apr 17, 2021 4:57pm Apr 17, 2021 4:57pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Saying the account server is being modified to show better results is accusing me of lying. But then again, if manna from heaven fell on your head, you'd probably question God as well because afterall, you're the Messiah.
"other's like me might think that that account server will be modify to"

"might think"

Only FTMO could do that in the server. Unless you are FTMO, I insist: I don't get your point here. Confusing.
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  • #7,298
  • Apr 17, 2021 5:00pm Apr 17, 2021 5:00pm
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} He can trade for 40 years. And RaulLambo: https://www.instagram.com/lamboraul/?hl=en Based on what I have seen till now, everything coming from FTMO is suspicious. There are many reasons to believe they pay for being promoted. It is a simple demo account what I'm talking about. I don't know what's wrong with that. Anyway, it does not matter. Not interested in your things.
Well I'm not interested in your things either. However, you keep spewing them on me. So, on this thread, the only ones who are suspicious are those NOT using FTMO, while all of us that do, have no issues. You would think, with all of the popularity FTMO has, someone who has actually used them would come on and say.....Hold up, I did everything they said and didn't get paid!!!! Just one, but no, it is just all of you who DO NOT use FTMO creating all the....but how do they do this? what if this? how come this? ENOUGH ALREADY
  • #7,299
  • Apr 17, 2021 5:00pm Apr 17, 2021 5:00pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Thanks brother. I wouldn't have the foggiest idea of how to modify server results anyways.
That sounds better.

There are examples of unregulated brokers that did that and create fake accounts that make too much money. They share the investor password. The victim connects and sees the amazing results. They offer signals and get customers to their broker.
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  • #7,300
  • Apr 17, 2021 5:01pm Apr 17, 2021 5:01pm
Oh, and by the way, still have no answers. I will keep posting until I do


Quoting pipmaster77
1. You pay $640 for a 100K challenge, you need to earn 10% for one month ONLY. If you end in profit (even if only .01), try again for free. Repeat as many times as you need. 2. Once you accomplish that, earn 2.5% for 2 consecutive months. 3. Trade a 100K demo account (which they may or may not copy into their own live account) 4. Enjoy the best trading conditions you have ever experienced ( spreads, commission, slippage, no frozen platforms). The brokers that are regulated in the US are allowed to freeze platforms, spike price randomly, etc, etc....
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