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  • #7,161
  • Apr 15, 2021 2:37pm Apr 15, 2021 2:37pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Some of these places will also require you to trade on their proprietary systems and specifically how they want. One chap I knew had a rude awakening utilizing such systems using only VWAP and or DOM ladder only.
Yes!! I heard this watching a Chat with Traders (if i remember right) interview on YouTube. Prop firms usually already have their own ways of doing things and any employee would usually have to conform in some way. Takes away all the thrill and freedom of developing your own strategy and trading it as is.

Quoting Thoughts
{quote}Exactly right! That's why its beyond belief when I see some folks attacking FTMO for all the opportunity it presents! It beggars reason.. Guess sometimes folks don't know a good thing when they see it..
Exactly!!
It's fascinating.
  • #7,162
  • Apr 15, 2021 3:12pm Apr 15, 2021 3:12pm
Phew.

Just got all caught up on the thread. Two more pages of irrelevant garbage. FTMO's visibility increasing day by day. I like it.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #7,163
  • Apr 15, 2021 4:27pm Apr 15, 2021 4:27pm
Quoting Koop
{quote} Lol Damn look at the hiring process for Optiver, holy crap.
It's not holy crap. It's talent recruitment. Common sense. It's real world.

You must pay attention to several important things:

- You don't have to pay to being hired.
- You don't have to prove you can make 10% in a month.
Always ready to help
  • #7,164
  • Apr 15, 2021 5:02pm Apr 15, 2021 5:02pm
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} It's not holy crap. It's talent recruitment. Common sense. It's real world. You must pay attention to several important things: - You don't have to pay to being hired. - You don't have to prove you can make 10% in a month.
Lol yeah I want to pay to be hired.
I'm not the most talented trader neither am I the best trader in the world, so I don't want to be asked to show my qualifications, my finance degrees or certifications, I don't want to go through any mandatory training, interviews or compete with any one, all to end up not getting the job .....or be told what tools I must use to trade or when I need to be in the office.

I'll gladly pay to take a simple test with clear requirements and a guaranteed opportunity within my reach, all within a month or 2 max.
Freedom to work from wherever I want, whenever I want and to earn whatever I want without any pressure to perform.


Thank you.
  • #7,165
  • Apr 15, 2021 5:24pm Apr 15, 2021 5:24pm
Quoting Koop
{quote} Lol yeah I want to pay to be hired. I'm not the most talented trader neither am I the best trader in the world, so I don't want to be asked to show my qualifications, my finance degrees or certifications, I don't want to go through any mandatory training, interviews or compete with any one, all to end up not getting the job .....or be told what tools I must use to trade or when I need to be in the office. I'll gladly pay to take a simple test with clear requirements and a guaranteed opportunity within my reach, all within a month or 2 max....
A simple test...that may take years to by chance pass it. Maybe you can spend the same years trading with a real account and getting a finance degree or relevant knowledge and finally got hired by a real prop-firm. Meanwhile, always trading and learning with an adequate risk management.

These FTMO's boys seems not to care about your success. Real prop-firms will care about your success and career. They won't take this trading thing as a multi-level game.
Always ready to help
  • #7,166
  • Apr 15, 2021 5:35pm Apr 15, 2021 5:35pm
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} A simple test...that may take years to by chance pass it. .
You need to learn to stop judging others based on your own inabilities and deficiencies, it's narcissistic to think that no one else can just because you can't.

You have referred to this challenge multiple times as "impossible" regardless of all the evidence from various people that it's very doable.

Put more effort into your own trading and leave this investigative work to those who know what they're doing.
  • #7,167
  • Apr 15, 2021 5:41pm Apr 15, 2021 5:41pm
Quoting Koop
{quote} You need to learn to stop judging others based on your own inabilities and deficiencies, it's narcissistic to think that no one else can just because you can't. You have referred to this challenge multiple times as "impossible" regardless of all the evidence from various people that it's very doable. Put more effort into your own trading and leave this investigative work to those who know what they're doing.
It appears at this time you are the remaining guy to communicate with that cancerous human. I would give you some sort of award but I don't want to encourage such behaviour.
  • #7,168
  • Apr 15, 2021 5:43pm Apr 15, 2021 5:43pm
You should have rephrased that question to:

"I need to feel important because I have low self-esteem. Could you waste your time and regurgitate what's on your website. I'm too selfish and busy with my 'clients' to read what you've clearly stated on your website"
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  • #7,169
  • Apr 15, 2021 5:53pm Apr 15, 2021 5:53pm
Quoting Koop
{quote} You need to learn to stop judging others based on your own inabilities and deficiencies, it's narcissistic to think that no one else can do just because you can't. You have referred to this challenge multiple times as "impossible" regardless of all the evidence from various people that it's very doable. Put more effort into your own trading and leave this investigative work to those who know what they're doing.
I share my opinion about the topic of the thread. Always providing some arguments.

Instead you have just mentioned some personal features about me without any argument: inabilities and deficiencies. How do you support that? I don't know. Anyway, it does no matter. It's not the topic. You may keep this forever: I have inabilities and deficiencies. No need to talk any more about my personal issues.

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it's narcissistic to think that no one else can do just because you can't.

It's not about that and has been explained too many times. It's about having to pass some objectives and rules that no one else has proved in the hisotry of the world to be capable of in a consistent way. And I have asked for that proof too many times in this thread because many here, demanded to be possible. Still no proof. This is one example that could end with my opinions in this thread:

Quoting mixedbags
{quote} Just for fun, we both open the FTMO demo account and set the target at 10K, DD loss at 5K. If I lost I get lost in FF. If you lose you get lost.
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} If you have read my posts, you would already know that I don't find that objective easily doable. I can't do it! You don't have to open a demo account to show you are able to do that. Don't bother. It's simpler. Just open a trade explorer here where we can show your real accounts profitability levels. 10%, 1 month out of 3 with two consecutive months with 5%. Don't need to see that for more than 2 years. 2 years is enough. Then, you win. I leave! Don't let go this opportunity to contribute to those FTMO fans that don't want to solve my doubts....
mixedbags, Have you got your trading account statements?

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You have referred to this challenge multiple times as "impossible" regardless of all the evidence from various people that it's very doable.

I find it inappropriate if you look for real traders to trade your account. It does not make too much sense from my point of view. If you set rules and objectives that till know have not been seen everywhere else, then it seems like you don't look for traders.

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Put more effort into your own trading and leave this investigative work to those who know what they're doing.

"Stop", "Put", etc. You keep using the imperative. Better if you don't decide what anyone has to do.
Always ready to help
  • #7,170
  • Apr 15, 2021 5:55pm Apr 15, 2021 5:55pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} It appears at this time you are the remaining guy to communicate with that cancerous human. I would give you some sort of award but I don't want to encourage such behaviour.
Very kind!
Always ready to help
  • #7,171
  • Apr 15, 2021 5:58pm Apr 15, 2021 5:58pm
Quoting Expo33
You should have rephrased that question to: "I need to feel important because I have low self-esteem. Could you waste your time and regurgitate what's on your website. I'm too selfish and busy with my 'clients' to read what you've clearly stated on your website" {image}
You still interested in my personal things....
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  • #7,172
  • Apr 15, 2021 6:43pm Apr 15, 2021 6:43pm
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} You still interested in my personal things....
Just exposing your selfishness.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #7,173
  • Apr 15, 2021 6:54pm Apr 15, 2021 6:54pm
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  • #7,174
  • Apr 15, 2021 10:25pm Apr 15, 2021 10:25pm
Hello, I'm thinking of signing up with FTMO. However, I just want to check-is there anyone who got paid by FTMO-I am not just talking about a few dollars or hundreds of profit-sharing, looking for something along the lines of a few thousands. I am not saying FTMO is a scam, but most of the times when I see a huge payout, it is always advertised on social media (Youtube) or one of their associates, which to me, might be an alarm bell. These people could be paid to claim that a huge payout has been done, when in fact, we never know. This is not something I see just from FTMO, even other providers as well.

Thanks in advance.

PS: Sorry for my poor English, my native language is Italian.
  • #7,175
  • Apr 15, 2021 10:49pm Apr 15, 2021 10:49pm
Quoting FireballFx
Hello, I'm thinking of signing up with FTMO. However, I just want to check-is there anyone who got paid by FTMO-I am not just talking about a few dollars or hundreds of profit-sharing, looking for something along the lines of a few thousands. I am not saying FTMO is a scam, but most of the times when I see a huge payout, it is always advertised on social media (Youtube) or one of their associates, which to me, might be an alarm bell. These people could be paid to claim that a huge...
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  • #7,176
  • Apr 16, 2021 1:42am Apr 16, 2021 1:42am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} It appears at this time you are the remaining guy to communicate with that cancerous human. I would give you some sort of award but I don't want to encourage such behaviour.
Lol Last post I promise.
  • #7,177
  • Apr 16, 2021 2:43am Apr 16, 2021 2:43am
Quoting FireballFx
Hello, I'm thinking of signing up with FTMO. However, I just want to check-is there anyone who got paid by FTMO-I am not just talking about a few dollars or hundreds of profit-sharing, looking for something along the lines of a few thousands. I am not saying FTMO is a scam, but most of the times when I see a huge payout, it is always advertised on social media (Youtube) or one of their associates, which to me, might be an alarm bell. These people could be paid to claim that a huge payout has been done, when in fact, we never know. This is not something...
they do pay dont worry about that, but if u dont mind the company paying you from other peoples fees go for that money
  • #7,178
  • Apr 16, 2021 3:27am Apr 16, 2021 3:27am
Quoting Rayder4Life
{quote} they do pay dont worry about that, but if u dont mind the company paying you from other peoples fees go for that money
Where did the thought in your head come from that they are paying from other people's funds? maybe you know something that we do not know? but? but?
You have no proof, only ridiculous assumptions. It is very interesting to watch how you changed your shoes with your opinion on the go, first Paul started this song, after that you began to carry such nonsense, although you were against it before. I don't understand your logic ..
sorry for my English, using google translator.
  • #7,179
  • Edited 6:25am Apr 16, 2021 4:17am | Edited 6:25am
Quoting LoveScalping
{quote} Where did the thought in your head come from that they are paying from other people's funds? maybe you know something that we do not know? but? but? You have no proof, only ridiculous assumptions. It is very interesting to watch how you changed your shoes with your opinion on the go, first Paul started this song, after that you began to carry such nonsense, although you were against it before. I don't understand your logic ..
Paul? Many have reached this thread with the same doubts. Let's focus on the topic. I'm not.

Transparency has been the debate in the last pages. At least since the first time I read some post here.

Tomas-ftmo and TraderOtakar refuse to provide any information that would solve our questions. Silence is not good. Never was. It makes people think...

Transparency and regulation is the best asset for a company in 2021. Specially in the finance world.

Here is a new example:

Quoting FireballFx
Hello, I'm thinking of signing up with FTMO. However, I just want to check-is there anyone who got paid by FTMO-I am not just talking about a few dollars or hundreds of profit-sharing, looking for something along the lines of a few thousands. I am not saying FTMO is a scam, but most of the times when I see a huge payout, it is always advertised on social media (Youtube) or one of their associates, which to me, might be an alarm bell. These people could be paid to claim that a huge payout has been done, when in fact, we never know. This is not something...
People watch those youtube videos and suspect. Everybody knows how influencers operate on social media. That not helps.
Always ready to help
  • #7,180
  • Apr 16, 2021 4:20am Apr 16, 2021 4:20am
Quoting LoveScalping
{quote} Where did the thought in your head come from that they are paying from other people's funds? maybe you know something that we do not know? but? but? You have no proof, only ridiculous assumptions. It is very interesting to watch how you changed your shoes with your opinion on the go, first Paul started this song, after that you began to carry such nonsense, although you were against it before. I don't understand your logic ..
Lol Pay them no mind. They'll get tired.
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