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  • #61
  • Feb 28, 2021 8:28pm Feb 28, 2021 8:28pm
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Runing Trade
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  • #62
  • Edited 11:07pm Feb 28, 2021 9:46pm | Edited 11:07pm
Quoting Pumi
{quote} Nice to see this from a different view. You don't think it's possible that they might violate that Order Block and shakeout the Sell Stops? Yes there is low resistance on the way up however I can also see some liquidity on the way down. If I was the MM I wouldn't want to take prices up with those whose Stops are just right there within reach - if there are any. On top of that can be an even much sweeter discount. {image} {image}

True, but not at the moment. Price positioned to go up until equilibrium to the premium area. Monthly is likewise showing price on the discount area on a higher swing low. But let's see what will the market provides.
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  • #63
  • Mar 4, 2021 6:51am Mar 4, 2021 6:51am
Best trade
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  • #64
  • Mar 6, 2021 11:43am Mar 6, 2021 11:43am
out of curiosity. What is different between that and supply and demand?
  • #65
  • Mar 7, 2021 2:51pm Mar 7, 2021 2:51pm
Quoting JsCave
out of curiosity. What is different between that and supply and demand?
its the same just a rebranded concept. ICT students treat him like somekind of a god that invented every forex concept. He makes money teaching not trading. He set himself a challenge on babypips and blew up his account, that's why he won't allow any comments on his youtube videos. His students believe some secret organization will send people to kill you off if you make too much money on forex lol

https://imgur.com/a/4tsEfyw
  • #66
  • Mar 8, 2021 1:50pm Mar 8, 2021 1:50pm
Quoting NateBeruk
{quote} its the same just a rebranded concept. ICT students treat him like somekind of a god that invented every forex concept. He makes money teaching not trading. He set himself a challenge on babypips and blew up his account, that's why he won't allow any comments on his youtube videos. His students believe some secret organization will send people to kill you off if you make too much money on forex lol https://imgur.com/a/4tsEfyw
so all that talk about institution trading is just Supply and demand rebranded with new name like Institutional Trading , smart money , etc?
  • #67
  • Mar 8, 2021 5:36pm Mar 8, 2021 5:36pm
Quoting JsCave
{quote} so all that talk about institution trading is just Supply and demand rebranded with new name like Institutional Trading , smart money , etc?
Supply and Demand trading does not equate to "Institutional Trading" in the form that it is "bandied" about at the moment. Whilst order blocks have much in common with supply and demand zones, "Institutional Trading" IMHO is where you try to trade from the perspective of Institutions by taking into account price manipulation approaches that are intended to access liquidity from the so-called "dumb money" (aka "retail"). Supply and Demand zones, like order blocks, certainly offer potential reactions (depending on the strength of the zone) but, the concept of "manipulation" is theoretically absent, which cannot be said for Institutional Trading. There is obviously much more to these topics than can be outlined in a single paragraph but the salient point is that it is not correct to say that "Institutional Trading" is simply Supply and Demand "rebranded". HTH.
  • #68
  • Mar 8, 2021 11:26pm Mar 8, 2021 11:26pm
Quoting Geester
{quote} Supply and Demand trading does not equate to "Institutional Trading" in the form that it is "bandied" about at the moment. Whilst order blocks have much in common with supply and demand zones, "Institutional Trading" IMHO is where you try to trade from the perspective of Institutions by taking into account price manipulation approaches that are intended to access liquidity from the so-called "dumb money" (aka "retail"). Supply and Demand zones, like order blocks, certainly offer potential reactions (depending on the strength of the zone)...
Here is an example of an OrderBlock. It is never near to Supply & Demand. Order block is not a zone, it's a block of price action, doesn't recognize candlestick patterns such as engulfing.
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  • #69
  • Mar 9, 2021 12:31am Mar 9, 2021 12:31am
Quoting isko
{quote} Here is an example of an OrderBlock. It is never near to Supply & Demand. Order block is not a zone, it's a block of price action, doesn't recognize candlestick patterns such as engulfing.{image}
agreed
MA provides the market's current direction and strength.
  • #70
  • Mar 9, 2021 12:49am Mar 9, 2021 12:49am
Quoting isko
{quote} Here is an example of an OrderBlock. It is never near to Supply & Demand. Order block is not a zone, it's a block of price action, doesn't recognize candlestick patterns such as engulfing.{image}
Whenever you find yourself on the defensive side of an argument, take few steps back and ask yourself: Why am I being defensive of this topic?
What am I trying to protect? Ego? I don't know but you should know...

A litmus test of orderblock:

Whenever you see an orderblock, fibs, trendline, etc, check for supply and demand zones, support and resistance on ALL timeframes there (either an old one or the market forms a new one there).

In this universe; the market place is a summary of supply and demand.

We can decide to give it to different names in other to conceal what we are doing or help us see it better or just a way to make us look smarter than others (Ego).
Most traders fall into the last category but delusion will not allow us tell ourselves the truth.
Peace
  • #71
  • Mar 9, 2021 1:08am Mar 9, 2021 1:08am
Quoting learnfast
{quote} Whenever you find yourself on the defensive side of an argument, take few steps back and ask yourself: Why am I being defensive of this topic? What am I trying to protect? Ego? I don't know but you should know... A litmus test of orderblock: Whenever you see an orderblock, fibs, trendline, etc, check for supply and demand zones, support and resistance on ALL timeframes there (either an old one or the market forms a new one there). In this universe; the market place is a summary of supply and demand. We can decide to give it to different...
I respect that, everyone has their own opinion. It doesn't affect me, Why should I be defensive at all? I am just showing what is order block is.

Believe it or not who cares? This is how I trade, this is an order block page anyway, that's why I'm here. there are more to it.

If you have respect and do not agree with anything you see here, move on, respect the OP's page.

If I told you that Supply & Demand do not exist in Forex, will you believe it? I thought so...

Peace
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  • #72
  • Mar 9, 2021 1:10am Mar 9, 2021 1:10am
Quoting isko
{quote} Here is an example of an OrderBlock. It is never near to Supply & Demand. Order block is not a zone, it's a block of price action, doesn't recognize candlestick patterns such as engulfing.{image}
I'm not exactly sure what point you are trying to make here other than you have pointed out one order block. Order blocks can be found in many different locations, I don't disagree with that. If you re-read what I said, I didn't say that order blocks == supply and demand. I emphasised the presence of manipulation in institutional trading and that was my salient point.
  • #73
  • Edited 6:28am Mar 9, 2021 6:18am | Edited 6:28am
Quoting isko
{quote} Here is an example of an OrderBlock. It is never near to Supply & Demand. Order block is not a zone, it's a block of price action, doesn't recognize candlestick patterns such as engulfing.{image}
In supply/demand strategy, that is considered supply zone, where you're pointing with "bullish orderblock". Down where it says "OTE" that is a demand zone. Just saying.
  • #74
  • Mar 9, 2021 2:44pm Mar 9, 2021 2:44pm
EURUSD
BUY AND SELL
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  • #75
  • Mar 15, 2021 4:42pm Mar 15, 2021 4:42pm
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Quoting orderblock
{imagen} [/cita] Runing Trade {image}
how is it running? its getting ready to really run... ready?
  • #76
  • Mar 16, 2021 12:57am Mar 16, 2021 12:57am
Quoting orderblock
EURUSD BUY AND SELL{image} {image} {image}
Nice
"Cut your loses short and let the winners Run"
  • #77
  • Mar 25, 2021 10:10pm Mar 25, 2021 10:10pm
Any know how to read ICT IOF and how to tell the bias using ICT's concepts?
  • #78
  • Mar 25, 2021 11:02pm Mar 25, 2021 11:02pm
Quoting isko
{quote} Here is an example of an OrderBlock. It is never near to Supply & Demand. Order block is not a zone, it's a block of price action, doesn't recognize candlestick patterns such as engulfing.{image}

No offense but i know its to late to answer but i just saw this and want it to give you some clarification! The zone you are talking about is called SUPPLY zone! In ICT language it is OB but that’s also supply zone when market does “drop base drop” DBD in bearish market or “rally base rally” in bullish market! That’s one of the old concept of Supply and demand! RBR RBD or DBD DBR!
  • #79
  • Mar 25, 2021 11:07pm Mar 25, 2021 11:07pm
Quoting RiyzeNation
Any know how to read ICT IOF and how to tell the bias using ICT's concepts?
bro watch market structure closely to see what IOF telling ya on HTF!

ICT concepts “IPDA, CBDR and premium arrays” .. that’s all you need
  • #80
  • Mar 26, 2021 12:10am Mar 26, 2021 12:10am
Quoting itzfaisal
{quote} No offense but i know its to late to answer but i just saw this and want it to give you some clarification! The zone you are talking about is called SUPPLY zone! In ICT language it is OB but that’s also supply zone when market does “drop base drop” DBD in bearish market or “rally base rally” in bullish market! That’s one of the old concept of Supply and demand! RBR RBD or DBD DBR!
Ok, that's your opinion bro, no worries.

And you're using Alfonso Moreno's S&D definitions.

Been there, than that, but sorry, they are not the same.

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