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  • #22,141
  • Feb 8, 2021 11:43am Feb 8, 2021 11:43am
this is a proven valid system.... now the hardest part.... our human and not so alien psychology ... we must learn it because its more important than any kind of system... and its even harder to learn than learning a system itself... if we dont get that alien psychology we wont survive here...
good for listening in the background as we study charts...

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  • #22,142
  • Feb 8, 2021 12:02pm Feb 8, 2021 12:02pm
Quoting Gonzaga
now the triple timeframe system in one chart... {image} first i scan for bbs using dashboard...{image} then analyze chart... if it has a good setup i wait for bbs breakout with valid signal....
Hi my friend.

Just for curiosity can you share your template? I've been using davits pivots with success, but sentiments are still with an alien system
  • #22,143
  • Feb 8, 2021 1:05pm Feb 8, 2021 1:05pm
Quoting dbsys
{quote} Hi my friend. Just for curiosity can you share your template? I've been using davits pivots with success, but sentiments are still with an alien system
No prob... all indicators are from the forum...

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  • #22,144
  • Edited 7:33pm Feb 8, 2021 7:12pm | Edited 7:33pm
Quoting Gonzaga
this is a proven valid system.... now the hardest part.... our human and not so alien psychology ... we must learn it because its more important than any kind of system... and its even harder to learn than learning a system itself... if we dont get that alien psychology we wont survive here... good for listening in the background as we study charts... https://youtu.be/SCDZ6QYYPuQ
I like the book! Still listening to it. This is my view on aliens inner journey:

  1. Practical inner psychological work. I try to avoid falling in love with theories but focus on self-knowledge by analysing my past, my childhood and my prejudices. I use CBT comes down from stoicism. I see myself as a lab-rat and analyse my behavior and make self-searching questions in my logging sessions.
  2. In writing or typing going through my daily emotional fears keeps me honest. This helps me avoid getting on a high horse. My passion for inner daily psychological analysis is just as important as trading. I like to think that in that way I’m not at the mercy of my temporary helpless emotions. I try not to wait until I have forgotten the unpleasantness of the trade or situation. When Iam able to see into myself and surrender to my actual motivations when I made the mistake and which set the negative results into motion, I get closer in my understanding why things went wrong on an emotional level. This connects to a daily-personal life which affects trading results.
  3. The inner world of feeling will affect your outer world. Fear of missing out, all those feelings can be related to your inner personal (daily)history. But most of the time you must go as deep as your childhood in my experience. Connecting the dots (which is a daily emotional inner work), literally typing out your emotions so they don’t cloud your judgement. Your brain creates room. But this only works when a person goes into the thoughts, feelings they don’t want to admit. Because these very thoughts and emotions take up space in our brain from the background.
  4. Which helps me also is a higher goal to have a grip on myself. Doing it for something that's bigger than me. Trading for the betterment of my family or for a genuinely good cause.


Its me against my own lower opinion of myself.

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  • #22,145
  • Feb 8, 2021 8:31pm Feb 8, 2021 8:31pm
Trying to work out the elliot waves:
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  • #22,146
  • Feb 8, 2021 11:02pm Feb 8, 2021 11:02pm
Quoting BlueBranch
Trying to work out the elliot waves: {image}
looking good...
  • #22,147
  • Feb 8, 2021 11:25pm Feb 8, 2021 11:25pm
Quoting BlueBranch
{quote} I like the book! Still listening to it. This is my view on aliens inner journey: Practical inner psychological work. I try to avoid falling in love with theories but focus on self-knowledge by analysing my past, my childhood and my prejudices. I use CBT comes down from stoicism. I see myself as a lab-rat and analyse my behavior and make self-searching questions in my logging sessions. In writing or typing going through my daily emotional fears keeps me honest. This helps me avoid getting on a high horse. My passion for inner daily psychological...
dont forget we all compete against each other in the market also for prices... not only theres a phycology and sentiment behind the whole market as emotional fellings behind every bull and every bear that is active in the market... behavior of masses can be easier predicted then ones behavior... and also theres oneself... our own felling's and emotions ... as soon as we enter the market our views change and our behavior tend to become of the masses evolved... so one must be aware...
  • #22,148
  • Feb 9, 2021 7:01am Feb 9, 2021 7:01am
Quoting Gonzaga
{quote} dont forget we all compete against each other in the market also for prices... not only theres a phycology and sentiment behind the whole market as emotional fellings behind every bull and every bear that is active in the market... behavior of masses can be easier predicted then ones behavior... and also theres oneself... our own felling's and emotions ... as soon as we enter the market our views change and our behavior tend to become of the masses evolved... so one must be aware...
what are the fellings of all those bears that saw price rejected back up from 1.6650 seeing the trade now against them... what are the felling's of all the bulls that saw opportunity for that long and got i... one side fells now afraid frustrated in stress and in doubt and other side fells excited confident... how do you fell.. have you taken the wrong side maybe... how will this affect your decisions now... how will you react.... how you analyze this whole new situation... whats your plan.... have you failed... are you lost .... this is all psychology
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  • #22,149
  • Feb 9, 2021 7:03am Feb 9, 2021 7:03am
Quoting Gonzaga
{quote} dont forget we all compete against each other in the market also for prices... not only theres a phycology and sentiment behind the whole market as emotional fellings behind every bull and every bear that is active in the market... behavior of masses can be easier predicted then ones behavior... and also theres oneself... our own felling's and emotions ... as soon as we enter the market our views change and our behavior tend to become of the masses evolved... so one must be aware...
I will look into it!
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  • #22,150
  • Feb 9, 2021 7:22am Feb 9, 2021 7:22am
Quoting Gonzaga
{quote} what are the fellings of all those bears that saw price rejected back up from 1.6650 seeing the trade now against them... what are the felling's of all the bulls that saw opportunity for that long and got i... one side fells now afraid frustrated in stress and in doubt and other side fells excited confident... how do you fell.. have you taken the wrong side maybe... how will this affect your decisions now... how will you react.... how you analyze this whole new situation... whats your plan.... have you failed... are you lost .... this is...
Yes indeed and the more you're lost already by the mess of emotions in your head or litterally a mess in your room... which is a reflection of the mess in your head in my experience, it helps to clean house and mind
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  • #22,151
  • Feb 9, 2021 7:52am Feb 9, 2021 7:52am
Quoting BlueBranch
{quote} Yes indeed and the more you're lost already by the mess of emotions in your head or litterally a mess in your room... which is a reflection of the mess in your head in my experience, it helps to clean house and mind
i see the pros saying you shouldnt trade when your stressed frustrated and you should be on good mindset... it makes sense... just like in life if your experienced you try to avoid making important decisions when you dont fell right specially with money... whatever makes you get that goodmindset depends on each individual... there are also some alien mindsets that can be a complete wreck no discipline at all they probably live in messy space but they can be comfortable that way... i think the key is psychology to get used to emotions you get and get to control and deal with them the best possible way...just like in live... and be aware that market moves on fear doubt trust and excitement... and there's always 2 sides and one major sentiment resulting behind alll that moves the price... so you must be aware and analyse this to see masses behaviour control your own and get the edge of it...
  • #22,152
  • Feb 21, 2021 7:37pm Feb 21, 2021 7:37pm
Still trying to figure out the elliot waves

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  • #22,153
  • Feb 22, 2021 1:37am Feb 22, 2021 1:37am
Don't mind the dutch text, it just says E.W. 3 on W1 graph.

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  • #22,154
  • Feb 22, 2021 2:14am Feb 22, 2021 2:14am
This week I also keep a close eye to EURJPY as well
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  • #22,155
  • Feb 22, 2021 4:06am Feb 22, 2021 4:06am
In it till 42 falls under 144 on M5

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  • #22,156
  • Feb 22, 2021 5:14am Feb 22, 2021 5:14am
too much info on the chart can give you analysis paralysis... i was trying the see whats happening on yours but its hard for me... i think if you do intermediate trend like h1 for intraday trades the d1 with h4 zoomed helps you to see direction... and m15 for pinpointing the h1 entry....
  • #22,157
  • Edited 6:31am Feb 22, 2021 6:16am | Edited 6:31am
Quoting Gonzaga
too much info on the chart can give you analysis paralysis... i was trying the see whats happening on yours but its hard for me... i think if you do intermediate trend like h1 for intraday trades the d1 with h4 zoomed helps you to see direction... and m15 for pinpointing the h1 entry....
Thanks but it's the "orginal" way, to have all those TF's next to each other. I downloaded your set-up a while a go, everything on 1 TF is real nice
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  • #22,158
  • Feb 22, 2021 10:30am Feb 22, 2021 10:30am
Closed the order

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  • #22,159
  • Feb 22, 2021 11:01am Feb 22, 2021 11:01am
Quoting BlueBranch
{quote} Thanks but it's the "orginal" way, to have all those TF's next to each other. I downloaded your set-up a while a go, everything on 1 TF is real nice
im not criticizing.. just saying it makes hard to see... you should see price clearly along with near major support and resistances areas... the system itself is to help you to see what is happening to the price... but you need to see it also because indicators lag after price and indis just by itself or together in a system wont work alone because there is no holly grail system.. also 3 to 4 tmf analyses is require to validate an entry so i agree on mtf analyse... its ok to analyse bigger time frames for a bigger picture and depending on your trading profile... if you are a long term time trader its good to focus on then.. but if you are a intraday/daytrader its better to foucus d1 or even maybe wk depending... if you see a lot of waves in front of your ways its easy for you to lost track of correct time analyses for each wave to develop and you can get lost on the correct analyses... its better to focus on 3/4 tmf and have the best clear chart possible so we can make better judgments... like intraday m15 h1 h4 d1, daytrader m5 m15 h1 d1 or longterm mn,wk,d1,h1 or so... these are just guide lines.. daytraders can go m1... intraday can use wk1... just for example...
  • #22,160
  • Feb 22, 2021 7:10pm Feb 22, 2021 7:10pm
Quoting Gonzaga
{quote} im not criticizing.. just saying it makes hard to see... you should see price clearly along with near major support and resistances areas... the system itself is to help you to see what is happening to the price... but you need to see it also because indicators lag after price and indis just by itself or together in a system wont work alone because there is no holly grail system.. also 3 to 4 tmf analyses is require to validate an entry so i agree on mtf analyse... its ok to analyse bigger time frames for a bigger picture and depending on...
O I see, I thought that elliot wave analysis would bring order to MTF analysis
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