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  • #61
  • Feb 4, 2021 7:14am Feb 4, 2021 7:14am
Quoting Mandariin
{quote} {quote} Check post 12 , DD is 100 % or bit more
twice!
Forgive for my English!
  • #62
  • Feb 4, 2021 5:55pm Feb 4, 2021 5:55pm
Quoting Prototype
Price never got to the centerline in real-time, at least not yet. Be prepared for week/weeks like this. {image}
Some running trades.
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  • #63
  • Feb 4, 2021 5:57pm Feb 4, 2021 5:57pm
Quoting Prototype
{quote} Some running trades. {image} {image} {image}
Non repainting vs repainting tma
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  • #64
  • Feb 4, 2021 7:48pm Feb 4, 2021 7:48pm
I have been using this system for a week on the demo account and have only traded in favor of the trend on h4. The trend is marked by a macd with a slow average of 150 and the maximum dd I had was 15%, which did not turn into losses because then those entries closed in positive and a roi of 40%. It is a very interesting system, if you have a large margin it can be a very profitable system but if you work with little margin it is a safe margin call. Be careful.
I'll keep testing the strategy for a few more months.
  • #65
  • Feb 5, 2021 4:04pm Feb 5, 2021 4:04pm
I coded a simple EA for this but I made the mistake which I think was previously mentioned, I moved the pending orders on a new bar. I see a few symbols that have multiple executed trades with a different sized gap between them. The gap between bands can vary right? I assume if you need to open a 4th / 5th you'd use the same gap (ATR based) that was used when the original trade was placed? (evenly spaced grid)

For testing purposes I actually ran this on a lower timeframe on a demo account, using 1 hour charts. Does / can this work on lower timeframes? Just wondering what the caveats would be in doing so, I assume more trades / DD / risk, especially during long trending periods. Using less symbols might offset this? I tested this with around 10 I believe.

I do have a few more questions, maybe they're help out others looking to try this.

 

  1. Is there a point where you stop adding trades? Using a 4 hour chart there isn't really a need for that many?
  2. The TP is adjusted to follow the center line, can it happen that in case of an upwards move, your TP goes above your average sell price? The volumes at each level remain the same, so yes? I mean it'll hit the center line eventually... but at what cost. I think I originally wrote the EA to close the individual trades when it did so, but this ended up in quite a few loses, I removed that.
  3. Do you leave pending orders in the market over the close and weekend? With the high spread and large jumps I'm just wondering how you handle these, or in my case, how the EA would

That's it for now. I have my own strategies I trade throughout the day but I'm always looking for side "projects" to either automate, or trade along side them. This peaked my interest, enough to actually create an account, I've been lurking a while I'm normally never in the market for more than a couple of hours, having something running all the time to me seems interesting.

S.

  • #66
  • Feb 5, 2021 4:07pm Feb 5, 2021 4:07pm
Quoting hegxo
I have been using this system for a week on the demo account and have only traded in favor of the trend on h4. The trend is marked by a macd with a slow average of 150 and the maximum dd I had was 15%, which did not turn into losses because then those entries closed in positive and a roi of 40%. It is a very interesting system, if you have a large margin it can be a very profitable system but if you work with little margin it is a safe margin call. Be careful. I'll keep testing the strategy for a few more months.

It is Friday and the market has just closed. The first week closes with an ROI of + 61% and -9% floating using 40% of the total margin of the account. The maximum relative DD has been -16%, this only trading in favor of the trend all pairs in h4. If next week closes with a positive ROi I plan to move to a small real account.
  • #67
  • Feb 5, 2021 6:50pm Feb 5, 2021 6:50pm
Quoting hegxo
I have been using this system for a week on the demo account and have only traded in favor of the trend on h4. The trend is marked by a macd with a slow average of 150 and the maximum dd I had was 15%, which did not turn into losses because then those entries closed in positive and a roi of 40%. It is a very interesting system, if you have a large margin it can be a very profitable system but if you work with little margin it is a safe margin call. Be careful. I'll keep testing the strategy for a few more months.
How exactly are you trading in the direction of MACD? Can you please show the chart?
  • #68
  • Feb 5, 2021 8:24pm Feb 5, 2021 8:24pm
Quoting pundit78
{quote} How exactly are you trading in the direction of MACD? Can you please show the chart?
MACD FAST EMA (12) SLOW EMA(150) SIGNAL EMA (9)
I also have 2 trend indicators: sonic_shi_channel (1440) and shi_channel (240)
I place the pending order (always in favor of the macd trend) on the green line of 50 / 1.9 tma and on the lower yellow line of 50 / 0.75 tma. The first tp (conservative) in the upper yellow line of the 50 / 0.75 tma and the aggressive tp in the red line of the 50 / 1.9 tma.
I am thinking of adding a 10 period supertrend to accept a loss in the event of a trend reversal. Any changes I make will be published in this thread.

I attach the indicators that I add in the template

I placed the sell stop after the price broke the yellow line of the tma 0.75 to gain some pips in which the price will seek my buy limit

sorry for my inglish.
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  • #69
  • Feb 5, 2021 8:46pm Feb 5, 2021 8:46pm
I hope that more traders will join this thread and together we can make this system a little more secure by adding some input filters. Mathematically it is viable if you have a high margin to negotiate. This system really caught my attention.
  • #70
  • Feb 6, 2021 5:35am Feb 6, 2021 5:35am
Quoting Prototype
{quote} Non repainting vs repainting tma {image} {image}
Can you post a copy of the "non repainting TMA" for every one please? I never encountewred this indicator before.
Barryvdw
  • #71
  • Edited 6:17am Feb 6, 2021 6:03am | Edited 6:17am
Quoting hegxo
{quote} MACD FAST EMA (12) SLOW EMA(150) SIGNAL EMA (9) I also have 2 trend indicators: sonic_shi_channel (1440) and shi_channel (240) I place the pending order (always in favor of the macd trend) on the green line of 50 / 1.9 tma and on the lower yellow line of 50 / 0.75 tma. The first tp (conservative) in the upper yellow line of the 50 / 0.75 tma and the aggressive tp in the red line of the 50 / 1.9 tma. I am thinking of adding a 10 period supertrend to accept a loss in the event of a trend reversal. Any changes I make will be published in this...
Thanks for sharing how you trade this approach. Could you clarify your use of the MACD from an earlier post please..? On your screenshot I see 2 buy orders that were both against the MACD (it was indicating short at that time) and now you have a sell stop when the MACD is indicating long.

Thanks
  • #72
  • Feb 6, 2021 7:33am Feb 6, 2021 7:33am
Quoting barryvdw
{quote} Can you post a copy of the "non repainting TMA" for every one please? I never encountewred this indicator before.
Here's one:
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  • #73
  • Feb 6, 2021 9:25pm Feb 6, 2021 9:25pm
[quote = VinceTheBeast; 13397682] {quote} Gracias por compartir cómo intercambia este enfoque. ¿Podría aclarar su uso del MACD en una publicación anterior, por favor ...? En su captura de pantalla, veo 2 órdenes de compra que estaban en contra del MACD (indicaba corto en ese momento) y ahora tiene una parada de venta cuando el MACD indica largo. Gracias [/ quote]
It is assumed that the price should go down to look for my buy orders, in the process that the price goes down I try to grab the pips that the asset would give going to look for the buy order. It is experimental, being conservative that sell order should not exist but as it is a demo account I can experiment.
  • #74
  • Feb 6, 2021 9:31pm Feb 6, 2021 9:31pm
Quoting barryvdw
{quote} Can you post a copy of the "non repainting TMA" for every one please? I never encountewred this indicator before.
A triangular moving average that does not repaint is an LWMA. They look alike but they are not the same, therefore it is not acceptable for this strategy that is technically based on the standard deviation of the price.
  • #75
  • Feb 6, 2021 9:44pm Feb 6, 2021 9:44pm
It occurred to me to add 2 adx (89 and 144) to recognize if there is weakness in the trend. As seen in the photo, the adx starts to turn blue and green before macd turns bullish. It can be very useful when it comes to knowing whether to trade at a loss or accept the loss. I will also place a stop loss on any sharp market movement according to the atr at W1, which in the case of USD/CAD is 187 pips from the last swing.
I am attaching the adx and atr indicator in case anyone wants to use them too.

The sell order seen in the photo belongs to the chart of D1, since in D1 USDCAD is still bearish and according to my analysis, USDCAD should go down to the 1.20 area and the entry that the system gives in D1 would be an entry optimal for taking a multi-day swing to the target.
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  • #76
  • Feb 6, 2021 10:08pm Feb 6, 2021 10:08pm
Personally, I trade the real account with renko and it occurred to me to open the system in renko and this is what happened. Change the channel indicators to a short-term one and mark in green the possible inputs that the AUDJPY gave from November to February.
It is interesting since the adx noise that exists in Japanese candles is filtered in renko thus giving cleaner entries.
I attach the channel indicator in case anyone wants it, the renko indicator I cannot attach it because it is a paid indicator (Mean Renko from ovo.cz)
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  • #77
  • Feb 8, 2021 5:34am Feb 8, 2021 5:34am
Take a short entry in USDJPY D1, apparently this type of entry occurs very little but the profit is quite interesting. As I said in a previous post I am going to set my stops according to the weekly atr, in this case 115 pips.
Renko also gave the entrance.
I will publish the result of this trade after its development.
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  • #78
  • Feb 8, 2021 11:20pm Feb 8, 2021 11:20pm
hegxo{ Looks interesting. Go for it man!
Personally, I like the KISS principle that is to keep it simple. For me no extra indicators as I trade quite profitable without the added effort. But please, carry on. It is what this forum is for!
Greetings.
Barryvdw
  • #79
  • Feb 8, 2021 11:22pm Feb 8, 2021 11:22pm
Quoting Romiros
{quote} twice!
Taken seperately and singularly, yes it certainly looks like it.
Trade all 28 pairs together and the basket figure is radically different. Set up a demo and test first.
Barryvdw
  • #80
  • Feb 8, 2021 11:25pm Feb 8, 2021 11:25pm
Quoting hegxo
Take a short entry in USDJPY D1, apparently this type of entry occurs very little but the profit is quite interesting. As I said in a previous post I am going to set my stops according to the weekly atr, in this case 115 pips. Renko also gave the entrance. I will publish the result of this trade after its development. {image} {image}

Nice System you go running there ....simple indicators and not too clouded !!
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