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  • #461
  • Jan 29, 2021 11:55am Jan 29, 2021 11:55am
Quoting trumps
{quote} Great work kCBHk, that's a lot of growth today
You're doing well too. I decided to load up a TE rather than FXBlue, it's crazy tough to journal in multiple threads. I'm still trying to scalp some gains.
  • #462
  • Jan 29, 2021 1:25pm Jan 29, 2021 1:25pm
Quoting trumps
{quote} Likewise, any retracement into the critical blue area, looks like a buy to me {image} {image}

time for the 10% correction 2 down 8 to go ahahah
  • #463
  • Jan 29, 2021 1:32pm Jan 29, 2021 1:32pm
Quoting trumps
{quote} Great work kCBHk, that's a lot of growth today

that’s what you get when you over leverage and high risk it works for a while until it bites and it bites hard

In my opinion this sort of trading should not be encouraged or applauded... as this is not a long term successful way of managing risk ...

it’s about longevity... not do well 1-2 weeks have amazing returns to lose it in week 3 and start again
  • #464
  • Jan 29, 2021 2:06pm Jan 29, 2021 2:06pm
Quoting allinazi
{quote} that’s what you get when you over leverage and high risk it works for a while until it bites and it bites hard In my opinion this sort of trading should not be encouraged or applauded... as this is not a long term successful way of managing risk ... it’s about longevity... not do well 1-2 weeks have amazing returns to lose it in week 3 and start again
1. Put up your TE.
2. Run your own race, I don't care about you and your demo account.
3. My TE is not my main account, I'm running it for one of the challenges in Journals, if you do not know, you do not have to comment.

TLDR: Stick your petty nose elsewhere, little fraud. You got exposed in your fraud and your thread got deleted by mods. Need I say more who is the fraud? IGNORED.
  • #465
  • Edited 2:47pm Jan 29, 2021 2:13pm | Edited 2:47pm
Quoting kCBHk
{quote} 1. Put up your TE. 2. Run your own race, I don't care about you and your demo account. 3. My TE is not my main account, I'm running it for one of the challenges in Journals, if you do not know, you do not have to comment. TLDR: Stick your petty nose elsewhere, little fraud. You got exposed in your fraud and your thread got deleted by mods. Need I say more who is the fraud? IGNORED.
hahhhaha

TE is there look it up and you can see it’s a real account

no I asked for the thread to be taken down

You really need to get your facts straightened up

I would be very careful with your words i Will expose U
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  • #466
  • Jan 29, 2021 3:38pm Jan 29, 2021 3:38pm
Quoting allinazi
{quote} that’s what you get when you over leverage and high risk it works for a while until it bites and it bites hard In my opinion this sort of trading should not be encouraged or applauded... as this is not a long term successful way of managing risk ... it’s about longevity... not do well 1-2 weeks have amazing returns to lose it in week 3 and start again
Hi allinazi,
Yeah, I understand and focus hard on implementing the same longevity philosophy for my own account.

My comment was to help set a different tone in this thread to the contagious negative tone found in many others.

Personally, I would like to feel something fresh and refreshing in here, without the put downs.

I understand and respect your post, and agree it is valid.

However, I feel discussions about the approaches of others rather than presumptions, would give us something we can all learn from.
Compulsions can be hard to resist
  • #467
  • Jan 29, 2021 5:45pm Jan 29, 2021 5:45pm
Quoting trumps
{quote} Hi allinazi, Yeah, I understand and focus hard on implementing the same longevity philosophy for my own account. My comment was to help set a different tone in this thread to the contagious negative tone found in many others. Personally, I would like to feel something fresh and refreshing in here, without the put downs. I understand and respect your post, and agree it is valid. However, I feel discussions about the approaches of others rather than presumptions, would give us something we can all learn from.

yes i agree with you have a little history with this guy but wont go in to details

So... in terms of longevity etc.. i meet a lot of traders especially beginners, i use to stream quite a lot on youtube and twitch and a lot were losing traders and the main reason are limited capital and or over leveraging.. OK i get capital is an issue with some people but over leveraging and taking high risk every trader can avoid

Trading has a lot to do with playing out probabilities you will go on winning streaks and losing streaks but one should be able to see out the losing streaks trades ... 2-3 losing trades should not cost most of your account. We all have bad anyone says they don't is lying... but we need to see those days out.. and that's what separates profitable and non profitable traders IMO. Those days should not cost us 30-50% of our accounts.

I watched a great interview with a pro trader and he was saying his best year he did something like 25% in the year...
AND this is where the capital leads in to

IMAGINE you want to make 1k thats 1% on 100k account but 20% on 5k which do you think is easier and consistently to do ?

My mentor worked in the biggest institutions and banks and i asked him what returns does he anticipate for his clients and similar answers to most pro traders around 2-5% because what happens here is your drawdown is controlled.. When you control your drawdown and you want more capital its much easier to get more capital especially from outside investorts.. What you want to see is a nice smooth equity curve not spikes up and down (sharpe ratio is usually i good indication for this).

So yea someone might say yea but 2% on 5k account is 100$ yes that may be so but this is the way it is if you want to survive over time... there is literally not point making 100+% in 1 week or 30% in 1 day that only says one thing over risk and probably on a smallish account also

Traders shouldn't think in money terms and i know most here think in terms of % but the % gains are to an extreme level.. even pro traders are not getting those returns in a year..

A good thing to look at on your track record i have it on fxblue is your risk of ruin data...

This don't paint a very sexy picture but that's the reality of it its not suppose to be exciting it should be boring ... (nothing boring about making money eh) but you get my point it shouldn't be someone has put a trade on and staring at every tick heart rate pumping... that's gambling

but i hope some of this helps i mean for me i aim 2-5% per month and that's what i tell my private clients and they are happy with it ...
  • #468
  • Jan 29, 2021 5:53pm Jan 29, 2021 5:53pm
Quoting allinazi
{quote} yes i agree with you have a little history with this guy but wont go in to details So... in terms of longevity etc.. i meet a lot of traders especially beginners, i use to stream quite a lot on youtube and twitch and a lot were losing traders and the main reason are limited capital and or over leveraging.. OK i get capital is an issue with some people but over leveraging and taking high risk every trader can avoid Trading has a lot to do with playing out probabilities you will go on winning streaks and losing streaks but one should be able...
I agree allinazi.
It requires patience and an aversion to revenge and get rich quick trading.
Wishing you all the best
Compulsions can be hard to resist
  • #469
  • Jan 30, 2021 1:47am Jan 30, 2021 1:47am
Quoting allinazi
{quote} yes i agree with you have a little history with this guy but wont go in to details So... in terms of longevity etc.. i meet a lot of traders especially beginners, i use to stream quite a lot on youtube and twitch and a lot were losing traders and the main reason are limited capital and or over leveraging.. OK i get capital is an issue with some people but over leveraging and taking high risk every trader can avoid Trading has a lot to do with playing out probabilities you will go on winning streaks and losing streaks but one should be able...
1. You claim to have private clients.
2. You claim to also work as a funded trader for your "mentor".

Pick one.

You deleted the thread because you realized you can no longer keep up with your lies. I wasn't the only one to expose you. You obviously wanted to promote some scam to the point you made two threads, one of which was deleted forcefully.

Also, as I mentioned, this TE is part of the 409k challenge I am doing with a few guys in Journals.

It really doesn't matter, our results will speak for itself who is the better trader. Your return this month is 6.8%, mine is 230%. Don't cry over the capital amount-I have two things to say to that. One can easily scale up using the same principles. Two-at least I am trading and doing the 409k challenge on real money while you are using a demo.

In fact, you know what? You shouldn't even be in this thread. This thread requires a LIVE TE while you have a demo TE from a scam.
  • #470
  • Edited 2:36am Jan 30, 2021 2:13am | Edited 2:36am
Quoting kCBHk
{quote} 1. You claim to have private clients. 2. You claim to also work as a funded trader for your "mentor". Pick one. You deleted the thread because you realized you can no longer keep up with your lies. I wasn't the only one to expose you. You obviously wanted to promote some scam to the point you made two threads, one of which was deleted forcefully. Also, as I mentioned, this TE is part of the 409k challenge I am doing with a few guys in Journals. It really doesn't matter, our results will speak for itself who is the better trader. Your return...

1. Yes i have private clients theres reviews on my trading instagram you can check them out im sure if you contact them directly they will tell you that im managing thier money
2. I do work for a trading funding program do you see my equity jump on my TE that's them putting more money in to my account and also did you see on the other thread of added funds because i posted everything withdrawals/ deposits

IF you have any questions about the program have a look for Beat Nussbaumer on Linkedin hes my mentor and look where he has worked.... then tell me if it is as you say a scam.. and if you think im a fraud ask him go on i dare you to

its funny how every time you come up with some ridiculous accusation i prove you wrong with proof like in previously YOU thought they binned the thread even though the title say "PER THREAD'S STARTER REQUEST"

then YOU said it was DEMO again showing proof that is real

AT WHAT POINT HAVE YOUR PROVEN ANYTHING?

This is how little you know about trading the fact you are talking about % gain to determine your trading abilities.. classic beginner

I have also attached my TE my aim is to make 2-5% consistenly each month thats it iwant to be trading for a long time with out blowing up
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  • #471
  • Jan 30, 2021 2:43am Jan 30, 2021 2:43am
Quoting trumps
{quote} Likewise, any retracement into the critical blue area, looks like a buy to me {image} {image}
I see that you're already preparing yourself for a retracement.
  • #472
  • Jan 30, 2021 2:49am Jan 30, 2021 2:49am
Quoting allinazi
{quote} 1. Yes i have private clients theres reviews on my trading instagram you can check them out im sure if you contact them directly they will tell you that im managing thier money 2. I do work for a trading funding program do you see my equity jump on my TE that's them putting more money in to my account and also did you see on the other thread of added funds because i posted everything withdrawals/ deposits IF you have any questions about the program have a look for Beat Nussbaumer on Linkedin hes my mentor and look where he has worked.......
Multiple people have already proven that whatever "funding program" you are running is a fraud. Will not continue to engage on this. Doing so only lures unsuspecting and more trusting people to take a look and fall prey.

Enjoy your weekend.

Of course we look at %. If anything, I can always argue that it is more difficult to grow a small account, which is the point of the 409k Challenge (a challenge run by another member in the Journals subsection).

Let's put it straight up. Let's do a simple challenge. Let's see where we land in February, how much we make? I have loaded up a LIVE TE. For my results, I will simply show the results of February. According to your own SS, your current equity is $10,283. Let's see where you land in Feb. We will compete based on %. You claim I will blow it up in 3 weeks, so let's see where we both land in Feb? Do you dare? If so, name your stakes.
  • #473
  • Jan 30, 2021 2:53am Jan 30, 2021 2:53am
Quoting allinazi
{quote} yes i agree with you have a little history with this guy but wont go in to details So... in terms of longevity etc.. i meet a lot of traders especially beginners, i use to stream quite a lot on youtube and twitch and a lot were losing traders and the main reason are limited capital and or over leveraging.. OK i get capital is an issue with some people but over leveraging and taking high risk every trader can avoid Trading has a lot to do with playing out probabilities you will go on winning streaks and losing streaks but one should be able...
Hi allinazi, I completely agree with your statements that overleveraging and taking extreme risks could lead to the demise of an account. The point that you made about trading that if it's exciting, then you’re doing it wrong is spot on. In essence, trading should be boring and many professionals have repeatedly said this.

While it is true that hedge funds, banks, etc. usually don’t make more than maybe 20-40% per year because of the risk factors which you clearly mentioned, there is another major reason why.

It’s because of liquidity. Major investors do not have the luxury of entering and exiting a trade whenever they deem appropriate. This is probably one of the few advantages that we as retail traders have over them. For example, if a hedge fund wanted to make 20% a day, they would probably have to enter positions worth hundreds of millions of dollars daily (without leverage), which wouldn’t be possible without moving the market against them. On the other hand, a retail trader with a 5 or 6-figure account could enter and exit positions with ease without the market even flinching (depending on how liquid the market is of course).

Generally, while you may have never heard of a major investment firm doubling their account every month, for retail investors, without the mentioned limitations (risk and liquidity), it isn’t very far-fetched; in fact, it’s quite possible with a small account. But when that account starts becoming a substantial amount, problems arise. There’s even a Bloomberg piece about a certain trader who has made hundreds of millions within a span of a few years. True, we haven’t heard much about them because they are few and far between, but they do exist.

Here's the link of the Bloomberg article:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ade-34-million

Here's another by Businessinsider:
https://www.businessinsider.com/japa...ay-2015-8?IR=T
  • #474
  • Jan 30, 2021 2:54am Jan 30, 2021 2:54am
Quoting kCBHk
{quote} Multiple people have already proven that whatever "funding program" you are running is a fraud. Will not continue to engage on this. Doing so only lures unsuspecting and more trusting people to take a look and fall prey. Enjoy your weekend. Of course we look at %. If anything, I can always argue that it is more difficult to grow a small account, which is the point of the 409k Challenge (a challenge run by another member in the Journals subsection). Let's put it straight up. Let's do a simple challenge. Let's see where we land in February,...

HAHAH did you look at his background and realise that he has worked at the likes of goldman sachs etc and your fraud theory is going out the window

i am not here to compete with anyone... competing with people is completely the wrong mentality in trading

I didn't say you will blow up in 3 weeks i said there's not point in getting high returns in 1-2 weeks then to lose it in 3 it was a general thing.. this is normal for high risk high leverage trading

i will tell you now my feb if i am to make money it will be 2-5% thats it ...
  • #475
  • Jan 30, 2021 2:59am Jan 30, 2021 2:59am
Quoting Kaysole
{quote} Hi allinazi, I completely agree with your statements that overleveraging and taking extreme risks could lead to the demise of an account. The point that you made about trading that if it's exciting, then you’re doing it wrong is spot on. In essence, trading should be boring and many professionals have repeatedly said this. While it is true that hedge funds, banks, etc. usually don’t make more than maybe 20-40% per year because of the risk factors which you clearly mentioned, there is another major reason why. It’s because of liquidity. Major...

yes excellent points also i will check out those links thanks for that.

i guess for retailers there is a fine balance... and yes the % can be exaggerated with smaller account i mean if you start with 200buck and make 50 usd your up 25%.

For me its just about getting as much funding/investors as possible and Kcbhk may not believe i have private investors but i do... and i am on a funding program with drawdown limitations.. so for me the this is about protecting risk as much as possible making 2-5% and hope to get more money every quarter or clients increasing my AUM and also attracting more investors as time goes on... and they only way i can do it is limit the downside risk and when i do that the top side is somewhat limited
because in my views if one can manage a lot of money you only need to make a few % to make reasonable money .. that's my mindset...individual traders differ i know that some people dnt care too much about DD and they just want to go for it which is fine,,, but to do that i think you need to be quite experienced... not a style suited for beginners


so yea i could do 50% months but i would need the ability to have a big drawdown limit
  • #476
  • Jan 30, 2021 3:02am Jan 30, 2021 3:02am
Quoting allinazi
{quote} HAHAH did you look at his background and realise that he has worked at the likes of goldman sachs etc and your fraud theory is going out the window i am not here to compete with anyone... competing with people is completely the wrong mentality in trading I didn't say you will blow up in 3 weeks i said there's not point in getting high returns in 1-2 weeks then to lose it in 3 it was a general thing.. this is normal for high risk high leverage trading i will tell you now my feb if i am to make money it will be 2-5% thats it ...
1. Yeah, I also know tons of people working in JP Morgan. You still have ZERO proof. Sorry, LinkedIN profiles can be easily faked.
2. Blah blah blah. I see you scampering out of a challenge after shooting your mouth off. Pretty clear for everyone to see who is the real deal. Cheerios.
  • #477
  • Jan 30, 2021 3:17am Jan 30, 2021 3:17am
Quoting kCBHk
{quote} 1. Yeah, I also know tons of people working in JP Morgan. You still have ZERO proof. Sorry, LinkedIN profiles can be easily faked. 2. Blah blah blah. I see you scampering out of a challenge after shooting your mouth off. Pretty clear for everyone to see who is the real deal. Cheerios.

1. yes this is also him being fake talking to investing channel does one every week
Inserted Video


ooo and also here is being fake again being interview by alpha mind podcast

https://open.spotify.com/episode/6YY...YQII81J4Q&nd=1


by the way anyone reading this is a great podcast must listen

i dare you to challenge him hahah nothing worse than someone not accepting when they are completely wrong....
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  • #478
  • Jan 30, 2021 3:21am Jan 30, 2021 3:21am
Quoting allinazi
{quote} 1. yes this is also him being fake talking to investing channel does one every week https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VLd...ature=emb_logo ooo and also here is being fake again being interview by alpha mind podcast https://open.spotify.com/episode/6YY...YQII81J4Q&nd=1 by the way anyone reading this is a great podcast must listen i dare you to challenge him hahah nothing worse than someone not accepting when they are completely wrong.... {image}
I'm challenging you. This thread wants everyone to put up a LIVE TE so that we put money where our mouth is at. I am now issuing you a challenge to see who is the better trader. Stop dodging and bringing up irrelevant things.
  • #479
  • Jan 30, 2021 3:25am Jan 30, 2021 3:25am
Quoting kCBHk
{quote} I'm challenging you. This thread wants everyone to put up a LIVE TE so that we put money where our mouth is at. I am now issuing you a challenge to see who is the better trader. Stop dodging and bringing up irrelevant things.

so now all the other ones of your accusations have been proven wrong you move on to a challenge

i have no interest in trading challenge with you and especially if it is over 1 month do you understand variance and standard deviation if you did you would realise how ridiculous your challenge is

why not do it over the whole year see where we are at then?
  • #480
  • Jan 30, 2021 3:44am Jan 30, 2021 3:44am
Quoting allinazi
{quote} so now all the other ones of your accusations have been proven wrong you move on to a challenge i have no interest in trading challenge with you and especially if it is over 1 month do you understand variance and standard deviation if you did you would realise how ridiculous your challenge is why not do it over the whole year see where we are at then?
No, your silly video proves nothing.

I can do one year, but you would have probably ran away by then.

OK, let's do it this way. We will have a BIG challenge till Dec 2021. We will also have monthly challenges.

Stakes? Rules?
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