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  • #5,401
  • Jan 27, 2021 10:06am Jan 27, 2021 10:06am
Quoting mizi123
{quote} You have come yestrday on FF and you think that can make distinguish what is real and unreal!? Can you explain me what is pip!?
I'm not saying you can't use FTMO, but if you think you're a professional trader because you are on FTMO, then you're deluded. You're a tool to be used by FTMO and you're also using FTMO. Neither sides are professionals.

I don't need FTMO, I have sufficient funds to trade on for myself.
  • #5,402
  • Jan 27, 2021 10:21am Jan 27, 2021 10:21am
Quoting kCBHk
{quote} I'm not saying you can't use FTMO, but if you think you're a professional trader because you are on FTMO, then you're deluded. You're a tool to be used by FTMO and you're also using FTMO. Neither sides are professionals. I don't need FTMO, I have sufficient funds to trade on for myself.

The biggest lesson people learn on FF is if someone is posting in the GBPUSD or EURUSD thread and talking about having sufficient funds to trade on for "myself" they generally are only trading a demo account.

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt... bye felicia.
  • #5,403
  • Jan 27, 2021 10:29am Jan 27, 2021 10:29am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} The biggest lesson people learn on FF is if someone is posting in the GBPUSD or EURUSD thread and talking about having sufficient funds to trade on for "myself" they generally are only trading a demo account. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt... bye felicia.
Yes, I'm such a regular poster in the Cable thread with 3 posts and a all-time poster in the EURUSD thread with 0 posts.
  • #5,404
  • Jan 27, 2021 10:58am Jan 27, 2021 10:58am
[quote=kCBHk;13380691]{quote} I'm not saying you can't use FTMO, but if you think you're a professional trader because you are on FTMO, then you're deluded. You're a tool to be used by FTMO and you're also using FTMO. Neither sides are professionals. I don't need FTMO, I have sufficient funds to trade on for myself.[/quo
You're a tool to be used by FTMO and you're also using FTMO, in modern world these is called partnership cooperation colaborations, perfections dosen't exist on other side especialy in trading. So you if ypu have sufficient funds why you have come to throw dirt in somone's effort these is angry everybody understand these if you don't have something smart to say go away by yourself or you will be forced ...!
  • #5,405
  • Jan 27, 2021 11:09am Jan 27, 2021 11:09am
I started today in London session, the new verification process.

Let us see how it goes.

The target is less, so, will not take big risk.
Intraday only.
  • #5,406
  • Jan 27, 2021 11:18am Jan 27, 2021 11:18am
Quoting mizi123
Quoting kCBHk
{quote} I'm not saying you can't use FTMO, but if you think you're a professional trader because you are on FTMO, then you're deluded. You're a tool to be used by FTMO and you're also using FTMO. Neither sides are professionals. I don't need FTMO, I have sufficient funds to trade on for myself.[/quo You're a tool to be used by FTMO and you're also using FTMO, in modern world these is called partnership cooperation colaborations, perfections dosen't exist on other side especialy in trading. So you if ypu have sufficient funds
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Just trying to let people realize what they are getting into with FTMO and not end up being their "evangelists" because when the "prop firm" eventually folds and swindle money, these "evangelists" will be the ones who will be in trouble.

If you are truly in need of funding and can trade, all you have to do is to produce a minimum of 3 months (demo or real), and there are REAL proprietary trading firms who will fund you, without you having to fork out a single cent. And you actually get real employment, with benefits. With performance bonuses, like a real proprietary trader in a real firm. If you want to know where to find such firms, go Google. I could point you in a direction, but retards would claim that I am advertising, so you just have to Google.
  • #5,407
  • Jan 27, 2021 11:36am Jan 27, 2021 11:36am
Quoting kCBHk
{quote}{quote} Just trying to let people realize what they are getting into with FTMO and not end up being their "evangelists" because when the "prop firm" eventually folds and swindle money, these "evangelists" will be the ones who will be in trouble. If you are truly in need of funding and can trade, all you have to do is to produce a minimum of 3 months (demo or real), and there are REAL proprietary trading firms who will fund you, without you having to fork out a single cent. And you actually get real employment, with benefits. With performance...

ftmo and every other firm of its kind is just an easy mean for anyone to trade real money.
for as long as it can last.

i did trade my own acoutn, i did make some money, but it was never enough so every time i wanted more i ended up loosing and starting from my original deposit ( in the meantime a did get a few thousand €€€)

you knwo what i did now? i gave ftmo 1080€, it took me about 25 days to pass 2 challenges and 2 verifications. and 10 days since then, i have already doubled my original funds from my personal live account. the way it goes i am gonna quadriple them until the profit split day.

you know whats gonna happen next? a 3rd challenge.

and basically i will earn more money in a day than anyone where i live earns in a month or 2.

as long as it lasts, a year? more?less? i dont care

the difference is that with ftmo i dont need to aim for 5% a day, i only go for 1%/day, and i hardly ever loose a trade. my mindset has changed, get the money i want and out. i dont care if i could get more of a trade. most of the time, yes i could get instead of 1% get 3-4-5%, but no, i get my money early in the morning ussually, and i enjoy the rest of the day.

i had previsly a funded account but i lost it (just saying)

i am not defended anyone, i dont care what people say, i dont care how they make money, i dont care if i really trade real funds or not,
as long as ftmo pays the splits, as long as it can last, i am good with it
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  • #5,408
  • Jan 27, 2021 11:42am Jan 27, 2021 11:42am
Quoting kCBHk
{quote}{quote} Just trying to let people realize what they are getting into with FTMO and not end up being their "evangelists" because when the "prop firm" eventually folds and swindle money, these "evangelists" will be the ones who will be in trouble. If you are truly in need of funding and can trade, all you have to do is to produce a minimum of 3 months (demo or real), and there are REAL proprietary trading firms who will fund you, without you having to fork out a single cent. And you actually get real employment, with benefits. With performance...
So Mr kCBHk,

I take it you don't have an FTMO account; right?

I take it you're not funding others; right?

Well, I have a "little" experience in the markets; and in my opinion, before anyone reading takes what any one of us on this forum has to say to heart; they probably would be better served doing a youtube search on the company.

Regards.
T
  • #5,409
  • Jan 27, 2021 12:02pm Jan 27, 2021 12:02pm
Quoting nikosk0
{quote} ftmo and every other firm of its kind is just an easy mean for anyone to trade real money. for as long as it can last. i did trade my own acoutn, i did make some money, but it was never enough so every time i wanted more i ended up loosing and starting from my original deposit ( in the meantime a did get a few thousand €€€) you knwo what i did now? i gave ftmo 1080€, it took me about 25 days to pass 2 challenges and 2 verifications. and 10 days since then, i have already doubled my original funds from my personal live account. the way it...
So spot on. I love it. I am using 2 prop firms (FTMO being one of them) and will be adding a 3rd, possibly a 4th as well. When all scaling is complete, I will be managing 4 million and shooting for about 2-3% PER MONTH. Everyone can do the math, I'll get between 50-70% split among the various firms. So do the math and if you can earn that kind of money on your own account.....more power to you. One firm goes down, I'll simply add another, risk diversification at it's finest.
  • #5,410
  • Jan 27, 2021 12:42pm Jan 27, 2021 12:42pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} The biggest lesson people learn on FF is if someone is posting in the GBPUSD or EURUSD thread and talking about having sufficient funds to trade on for "myself" they generally are only trading a demo account. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt... bye felicia.
lol
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  • #5,411
  • Edited 1:12pm Jan 27, 2021 12:59pm | Edited 1:12pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} So spot on. I love it. I am using 2 prop firms (FTMO being one of them) and will be adding a 3rd, possibly a 4th as well. When all scaling is complete, I will be managing 4 million and shooting for about 2-3% PER MONTH. Everyone can do the math, I'll get between 50-70% split among the various firms. So do the math and if you can earn that kind of money on your own account.....more power to you. One firm goes down, I'll simply add another, risk diversification at it's finest.
Damn Boyyy ..how is it you going to get 4 million form 3-4 firms? Is this weight not too heavy for you to carry?
  • #5,412
  • Jan 27, 2021 2:55pm Jan 27, 2021 2:55pm
Quoting driven18
{quote} Damn Boyyy ..how is it you going to get 4 million form 3-4 firms? Is this weight not too heavy for you to carry?
Well, not his money, so just a figure
  • #5,413
  • Jan 27, 2021 4:00pm Jan 27, 2021 4:00pm
Quoting kCBHk
{quote}{quote} Just trying to let people realize what they are getting into with FTMO and not end up being their "evangelists" because when the "prop firm" eventually folds and swindle money, these "evangelists" will be the ones who will be in trouble. If you are truly in need of funding and can trade, all you have to do is to produce a minimum of 3 months (demo or real), and there are REAL proprietary trading firms who will fund you, without you having to fork out a single cent. And you actually get real employment, with benefits. With performance...
Maybe you should try reading the whole thread from the start and you'll notice you're probably the 1000th saviour coming here to save everyone from being "played" by such firms, like nobody is able to think for themselves. Rest assured that most people here who take the time to read are perfectly aware of the good and bad and are making their own decisions based on facts shared a million times already. In FTMO's case, everyone seems to find it a win-win situation.
Please read back and you'll understand you're saying nothing new and all those who are currently funded are well off making a good living.
Actively and patiently inform yourself prior to insisting on a recurrent subject that everyone is tired of, it just shows you're actually unaware of what is going on this thread.
  • #5,414
  • Jan 27, 2021 4:13pm Jan 27, 2021 4:13pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} So spot on. I love it. I am using 2 prop firms (FTMO being one of them) and will be adding a 3rd, possibly a 4th as well. When all scaling is complete, I will be managing 4 million and shooting for about 2-3% PER MONTH. Everyone can do the math, I'll get between 50-70% split among the various firms. So do the math and if you can earn that kind of money on your own account.....more power to you. One firm goes down, I'll simply add another, risk diversification at it's finest.
Hi Pipmaster can you fill me in on the other prop firms you are using? I also want to implement this your brilliant strategy this year. If you can contact me inbox i will appreciate it.
  • #5,415
  • Jan 27, 2021 4:30pm Jan 27, 2021 4:30pm
Quoting touchstoneR
{quote} Hi Pipmaster can you fill me in on the other prop firms you are using? I also want to implement this your brilliant strategy this year. If you can contact me inbox i will appreciate it.
i just did a google seacrh.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Forex/comme...ding_accounts/

one ofers up to 1.3m for trading.

ALTHOUGH most conditions of firms that i;ve read have a weekly DD of 2%.
witch prety much means, you can never loose.

not that i've done more than a 15 minute research to be honest.

ftmo is 2 years can give you 600k

most firms can give more than 500k

its easy if you do the math.

that though is a long journey, takes years.

do what u know (ftmo i guess), get some money out of it. get a few k $$$ and if you feel that your needs surpuce your income, you can search them.

do not just go throwing your precious $$$ around hoping that you will manage 2-3-5m in a month or 2.

good luck
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  • #5,416
  • Jan 27, 2021 4:47pm Jan 27, 2021 4:47pm
Quoting kCBHk
{quote} I'm not saying you can't use FTMO, but if you think you're a professional trader because you are on FTMO, then you're deluded. You're a tool to be used by FTMO and you're also using FTMO. Neither sides are professionals. I don't need FTMO, I have sufficient funds to trade on for myself.
So you risk your money and ftmo traders risk someone else’s...
  • #5,417
  • Jan 27, 2021 5:55pm Jan 27, 2021 5:55pm
Quoting nikosk0
{quote} i just did a google seacrh. https://www.reddit.com/r/Forex/comme...ding_accounts/ one ofers up to 1.3m for trading. ALTHOUGH most conditions of firms that i;ve read have a weekly DD of 2%. witch prety much means, you can never loose. not that i've done more than a 15 minute research to be honest. ftmo is 2 years can give you 600k most firms can give more than 500k its easy if you do the math. that though is a long journey, takes years. do what u know (ftmo i guess), get some money out...
Yes, out of respect I would never mention others in FTMO thread. Search, due your due diligence, read the rules. There are, in my opinion, 2 I trust 100%, FTMO, of course, being one of them and maybe 2-3 others that I would consider. I will not do any with a recurring monthly fee nor will I do one that requires you to keep your profits in the account to scale you. That should help you narrow it down. As far as the DD rules, those firms also have lower targets and much longer periods on evaluation to hit them. Just need to adjust position sizing. It's all relative. Remember, you do not need leverage, you need capital. Leverage simply increases your risk while capital decreases it.
  • #5,418
  • Jan 27, 2021 6:49pm Jan 27, 2021 6:49pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes, out of respect I would never mention others in FTMO thread. Search, due your due diligence, read the rules. There are, in my opinion, 2 I trust 100%, FTMO, of course, being one of them and maybe 2-3 others that I would consider. I will not do any with a recurring monthly fee nor will I do one that requires you to keep your profits in the account to scale you. That should help you narrow it down. As far as the DD rules, those firms also have lower targets and much longer periods on evaluation to hit them. Just need to adjust position...
how do you manage trades?

Copy trade from one firm to other prop. firm possible?
Intraday only.
  • #5,419
  • Jan 28, 2021 2:25am Jan 28, 2021 2:25am
Quoting navk
I started today in London session, the new verification process. Let us see how it goes. The target is less, so, will not take big risk.
Again, congratulations! Wow you received your verification account already, I wonder when mine will be given, it's been almost 2 days. xD
adapt or be killed
  • #5,420
  • Jan 28, 2021 2:25am Jan 28, 2021 2:25am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes, out of respect I would never mention others in FTMO thread. Search, due your due diligence, read the rules. There are, in my opinion, 2 I trust 100%, FTMO, of course, being one of them and maybe 2-3 others that I would consider. I will not do any with a recurring monthly fee nor will I do one that requires you to keep your profits in the account to scale you. That should help you narrow it down. As far as the DD rules, those firms also have lower targets and much longer periods on evaluation to hit them. Just need to adjust position...
well 2% weekly dd is just absurd. i'd rather have a 5% daily on equal capital.

for me to make th equal amount i am making on ftmo every day on 200k funded i would need more than 1m with 2% weekly dd.
there is absolutly no point to it. you prety much dont have 1m to trade with, you have 20k to trade with, every week. with ftmo i got 10k every day to trade with +20k overall +any kind of profit i make overall.

say you got from 10k to 12k, your new week capital cannot go lower than 11760. the dd does not increase with the money you make. (this seemed to be the case in most of the firms i read about, i still do not consider going to another firm as well, i am hapy with my ftmo capital)

anyway, this might not seem to have to do anything with the thread but it does.

i simply say that ftmo has one of the best trading conditions if not the best. for any other firm it is to ones mind to do the research and the math before paying any kind of fee.
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