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  • #4,861
  • Dec 5, 2020 6:27pm Dec 5, 2020 6:27pm
ask yourself this..

if the composition of the market intraday is random. Then how can it suddenly be not random on a the daily time frame. Can you see how unbelievably stupid it is to make a statement like this. Its like saying all these gold flakes and nuggets are not gold but this 1kg bar is gold.

  • #4,862
  • Dec 5, 2020 6:33pm Dec 5, 2020 6:33pm
Quoting EcoTrader
ask yourself this.. if the composition of the market intraday is random. Then how can it suddenly be not random on a the daily time frame. Can you see how unbelievably stupid it is to make a statement like this. Its like saying all these gold flakes and nuggets are not gold but this 1kg bar is gold.
Mate, you’re wasting your time.
Random markets... as soon as I see or hear that, it’s game over.
  • #4,863
  • Dec 5, 2020 7:24pm Dec 5, 2020 7:24pm
Quoting EcoTrader
{quote} ...If you can measure strength then you can incorporate a process...

Maybe you don't mean the same system, but I agree on strength. It has always been in my trading.
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Quoting Trader-IT
...Trading with the trend is convenient. Trading with the trend and strength is even better....
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe
  • #4,864
  • Edited 8:22pm Dec 5, 2020 7:56pm | Edited 8:22pm
Quoting EcoTrader
{quote}{quote} of course its pathetic to simple minds that know no better. You must be one of those traders that can't make money intraday, so you spew bullshit like it's random and talk about the daily timeframe like its suddenly all clear. What is pathetic, is this approach will have you sitting on your arse for days to weeks on end, waiting for a trade opportunity. Its so laughable its almost comic sketch material. ill go easy on you since you have only been trading live for 4 years, so still wet behind the ears. If ever you get to go onto a...
I will not be preaching here why it is easier to determine strength of the market on the Daily charts using fundamentals and geopolitical events. It is pretty obvious for experienced long term traders who can trade 1Hr/4Hr charts based on that Daily Strength Momentum.

You are an idiot if you still preaching that you can calculate intraday strength of the markets and trade with that notion for reaching intraday targets... maybe you can share that other guy Currency Strength Meter - ha ha - that should do the trick.

Pretty laughable, especially coming from Commercial Member. Not sure what you are peddling there but you can definitely add CSM to your arsenal.
  • #4,865
  • Dec 5, 2020 8:27pm Dec 5, 2020 8:27pm
Quoting mizi123
IF SOMONE PLANS TO TAKE CHALLANGE December is here so let's have a look at what happened this week and also one special FTMO Update! As the Christmas holiday approaches, we have a nice gift for all our traders. All active FTMO Challenge and Verification accounts that started anytime between 1st December and 29th December will automatically get 10 extra days to the duration. You can trade in no rush during December and spend the festive break with family and loved ones at the same time. Trading accounts will be extended after the Christmas...
Great if they make this permanent.
Without despair & distraught, focus on Patience to FRESH MOTiVES.
  • #4,866
  • Dec 5, 2020 10:11pm Dec 5, 2020 10:11pm
Quoting TrendLover
Hello traders, Is there a problem with XRPUSD? My script cannot open order for this symbol. I opened an order manually and I can't change stop loss and take profit. {image}
I had similar problems with expert advisors...
open XBT and XLT okay, but not XRP.
  • #4,867
  • Dec 6, 2020 12:04am Dec 6, 2020 12:04am
"There is a way to measure market strength. If you can measure strength then you can incorporate a process that suits you for taking profits"

Calculating market strength on the intraday level requires accessing futures data on US currency pairs . If we can access real volume and delta volumes and view it on the order flow chart, we will know what the average volume of contracts are that are opened every minute. When a large bullish move occurs, we should know what the average volume of contracts is as a base figure before the move occurs. Then our signal to take a position will be an dramatic increase in real volume along with increasing Buying delta.

This is the only accurate strength meter on intraday level -
The excess of aggressive market orders overwhelming passive limit orders resulting in strong delta for either buyers or sellers -

So there is no idiots in the group of traders studying Delta on the intraday level.
As for targets - only worth staying in a position if supported by volume.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #4,868
  • Dec 6, 2020 2:42am Dec 6, 2020 2:42am
Quoting driven18
{quote} I will not be preaching here why it is easier to determine strength of the market on the Daily charts using fundamentals and geopolitical events. It is pretty obvious for experienced long term traders who can trade 1Hr/4Hr charts based on that Daily Strength Momentum. You are an idiot if you still preaching that you can calculate intraday strength of the markets and trade with that notion for reaching intraday targets... maybe you can share that other guy Currency Strength Meter - ha ha - that should do the trick. Pretty laughable, especially...
the only idiot here is you. For many months I managed a thread dedicated to intraday trading using fundamentals and making consistent profits of 10+ percent each month. Heck I have even gone so far as to build my own indices based on economic data and thus far have been testing (results attached). That must be luck right, almost 80 trades, 1 loser, and all based on fundamentals intraday.

Next garbage that's going to come out your mouth is likely - you can't trade fundamentals intraday. I have heard it many times before and yet here I am trading for nearly 20 years and some wet behind the ears mfo is telling me after a laughable 4 years live trading on how the mustard is cut.

You have a lot to learn.


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  • #4,869
  • Dec 6, 2020 3:38am Dec 6, 2020 3:38am
Quoting RickM
"There is a way to measure market strength. If you can measure strength then you can incorporate a process that suits you for taking profits" Calculating market strength on the intraday level requires accessing futures data on US currency pairs . If we can access real volume and delta volumes and view it on the order flow chart, we will know what the average volume of contracts are that are opened every minute. When a large bullish move occurs, we should know what the average volume of contracts is as a base figure before the move occurs. Then our...
that is one way to do it. I was going to include it in my indices but the data vendor providing fx flow data (volume, number of trades) charges 50k a year for the feed. You don't need it though because its possible via time and price analysis. Let's say for example a news catalyst moves price and you are in the trade. For strength to continue to be valid, price must break through technical levels. If it doesn't then statistically it will either sit there or pull back. Measuring the time it sits at a level (I use 10 to 15 minutes) is the trigger for profit taking. If it breaks in the next session then another entry can be had. if it doesn't however, then profit is booked at the most optimum level.

Just to be clear I am not talking about relative strength of a currency. I am referring to measuring the strength of a given opportunity and using that to manage targets.
  • #4,870
  • Dec 6, 2020 7:13am Dec 6, 2020 7:13am
Quoting EcoTrader
{quote} the only idiot here is you. For many months I managed a thread dedicated to intraday trading using fundamentals and making consistent profits of 10+ percent each month. Heck I have even gone so far as to build my own indices based on economic data and thus far have been testing (results attached). That must be luck right, almost 80 trades, 1 loser, and all based on fundamentals intraday. Next garbage that's going to come out your mouth is likely - you can't trade fundamentals intraday. I have heard it many times before and yet here I am...
thats a demo account. It has no stamp on the deposit. Forexfactory threads are most definitely not the gateway to professional trading or knowing what you are talking about.

I don't disagree with you, I disagree with your ego. When egos enter threads threads turn to crap, so check your ego or please go away.
  • #4,871
  • Edited 8:48am Dec 6, 2020 8:33am | Edited 8:48am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} thats a demo account. It has no stamp on the deposit. Forexfactory threads are most definitely not the gateway to professional trading or knowing what you are talking about. I don't disagree with you, I disagree with your ego. When egos enter threads threads turn to crap, so check your ego or please go away.
Read what I said before commenting:

"I have even gone so far as to build my own indices based on economic data and thus far have been testing"

and feel free to produce a test account with near 80 trades, 1 loser, and over 500 percent gain. If it is so easy and dismissible then show us you can do it.

if you want to know why I won't show my real account then its because I have professional courtesy for the investors who's money I manage. This isn't a whip it out and show us contest, sorry if this upsets you, deal with it.

Also, if you want to cry about my responses and label them as having an ego, then why aren't you crying about the other side as well given the level responses thrown my way for offering up good advice? says more about you than it does me doesn't it.
  • #4,872
  • Dec 6, 2020 9:01am Dec 6, 2020 9:01am
Quoting EcoTrader
{quote} Read what I said before commenting: "I have even gone so far as to build my own indices based on economic data and thus far have been testing" and feel free to produce a test account with near 80 trades, 1 loser, and over 500 percent gain. If it is so easy and dismissible then show us you can do it. if you want to know why I won't show my real account then its because I have professional courtesy for the investors who's money I manage. This isn't a whip it out and show us contest, sorry if this upsets you, deal with it. Also, if you want...
Ok..so(and I am being very polite here) - as expected, you are just peddling your crap services to try to entice rookie traders with ridiculous intraday currency strength statements.

You should just acknowledge that you are a salesman at the beginning of your comments...admit to it otherwise GTFO.
  • #4,873
  • Dec 6, 2020 9:08am Dec 6, 2020 9:08am
Quoting driven18
{quote} Ok..so(and I am being very polite here) - as expected, you are just peddling your crap services to try to entice rookie traders with ridiculous intraday currency strength statements. You should just acknowledge that you are a salesman at the beginning of your comments...admit to it otherwise GTFO.
you know it does help when accusing one of selling something to state what that something is. Have I mentioned even once that I am selling any service? have I peddled a url or an email address or said something that insinuates sales of any sort?

You call it ridiculous yet you have never tried it and you have no stats to prove it is ridiculous. So how can an intelligent person possibly make an informed decision without any information whatsoever. You know it means you are just making it up and that means you are a bullshitter, and a rubbish one at that.
  • #4,874
  • Dec 6, 2020 9:22am Dec 6, 2020 9:22am
its a shame that after 20 years of experience in trading you chose to post a screenshot of a DEMO account to show that you are profitable.

*facepalm*
Allergic to bullshitters, never argue with fools
  • #4,875
  • Edited 9:43am Dec 6, 2020 9:27am | Edited 9:43am
Quoting Muhammedfx
its a shame that after 20 years of experience in trading you chose to post a screenshot of a DEMO account to show that you are profitable. *facepalm*

Go read again before commenting.

also feel free to replicate on a test account and show how very easy it is. By the looks of it you not doing well at all so it can only be jealousy given you are down 17 percent on your account after being down 70 percent
  • #4,876
  • Dec 6, 2020 9:52am Dec 6, 2020 9:52am
Quoting EcoTrader
{quote} you know it does help when accusing one of selling something to state what that something is. Have I mentioned even once that I am selling any service? have I peddled a url or an email address or said something that insinuates sales of any sort? You call it ridiculous yet you have never tried it and you have no stats to prove it is ridiculous. So how can an intelligent person possibly make an informed decision without any information whatsoever. You know it means you are just making it up and that means you are a bullshitter, and a rubbish...
It's submissive selling. It's floating an idea. You come in here showing stats, make some statements about intraday currency strength, etc. You know struggling traders are going to reach out to you. No need to post a url or an email, they will solicit you. Not saying there is anything wrong with it, it's actually genius. Just don't pretend there is no underlying motive.
  • #4,877
  • Edited 10:24am Dec 6, 2020 10:10am | Edited 10:24am
This isn't a sales pitch for you special cases out there - but this is the backdrop that has driven that test account. Custom indices I have been building and testing comprised of economic data, fx flows, and correlations with other markets. They give me directional bias which feeds into a simple technical strategy that trades in the direction of the index. I have been testing them and if that's so hard for you to understand then you best go back to get some much-needed education.

This bickering all started, as it always does with me offering advice on managing targets and the animals crawl out of their holes and attack me. If you cant read then that's not my problem, if you cant make an informed comment, then best leave the bullshitting at home. If you want to make a mockery of me testing something as being irrelevant then feel free to show us all how easy it is to replicate 500% growth over nearly 80 trades in 2 months with 1 losing trade. I don't show my real account for professional reasons and if you can't handle that then maybe you need meds or further education on how money managers conduct business. They don't go running around showing accounts that are comprised of investor capital - it's not very professional, is it!

All you loudmouths making a mockery - feel free to show a live or test account that shows your skill. It is so easy to attack someone behind the veil of invisibility where you can't receive troll backlash. I have invested well over 1000 hours into building these and I am currently defining a trading strategy around them - it is not my bread and butter and it was born out of a curiosity for automating what I perceived to be difficult to automate. I'm not selling anything but feel free to brand me as such as it just highlights a lack of intelligence given you have no evidence of anything being commercially offered.



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  • #4,878
  • Dec 6, 2020 10:13am Dec 6, 2020 10:13am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} It's submissive selling. It's floating an idea. You come in here showing stats, make some statements about intraday currency strength, etc. You know struggling traders are going to reach out to you. No need to post a url or an email, they will solicit you. Not saying there is anything wrong with it, it's actually genius. Just don't pretend there is no underlying motive.

more bla bla bla assumption. prove I am selling something or shut up. Absolutely astounding that you offer help and give some backdrop only to be accused of something without any evidence to support said claim. Pathetic
  • #4,879
  • Dec 6, 2020 10:23am Dec 6, 2020 10:23am
Weekends are always entertained by one or other clowns , I don't miss Barnell any longer.
on a postive roll...
  • #4,880
  • Dec 6, 2020 11:04am Dec 6, 2020 11:04am
Quoting driven18
{quote} I will not be preaching here why it is easier to determine strength of the market on the Daily charts using fundamentals and geopolitical events. It is pretty obvious for experienced long term traders who can trade 1Hr/4Hr charts based on that Daily Strength Momentum. You are an idiot if you still preaching that you can calculate intraday strength of the markets and trade with that notion for reaching intraday targets... maybe you can share that other guy Currency Strength Meter - ha ha - that should do the trick. Pretty laughable, especially...
Please, reread my post.
Quoting Trader-IT
...Trading with the trend is convenient. Trading with the trend and strength is even better...
Are you saying that an analysis tool (CSM), used by a good part of the Traders is idiot?
Are you saying that treding with trend and force, defined by a CSM or not, is idiot?
Are you calling all the millions of traders who work with lower TFs a day, idiot?

Compliments. I respect and don't criticize other people's ideas, but apparently, it's just me.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe
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