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  • Is tunneltrading worth the hassle of e-gold?
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  • #1
  • First Post: Edited 12:33pm Nov 4, 2006 12:26pm | Edited 12:33pm
Hey guys, I have read a lot in this forum and have had firsthand problems to get e-gold easily and without enormous bank commissions. On the other hand tunneltrading.com is not very clear on the services provided. My question to you subscribers is:

1. What kind of service is this? Signals, educational??
2. do you really get what you pay for?

Basically, IS IT REALLY WORTH paying all those commissions to become a member?? I thank you all on your comments. Be cool!
  • #2
  • Nov 4, 2006 4:00pm Nov 4, 2006 4:00pm
I prefer to rely on my own tools rather than others. If your signals make money for you, you do not really sell them for a few dollars to others. You either trade them and enjoy or if you want to share them with others you share them for free.
  • #3
  • Nov 5, 2006 1:35am Nov 5, 2006 1:35am
I believe that is worth, provided that they will really enable your access to tunneltrading. Unluckily, I paid at 10-20 but right now I still got no update from them .. check out other threads, seems many applicants got no reply from them for a long time. Maybe they are solving some very big problems ? Since I know they have just opened a hedge fund.
  • #4
  • Nov 5, 2006 9:27am Nov 5, 2006 9:27am


Quoting thomsonfx
I believe that is worth, provided that they will really enable your access to tunneltrading. Unluckily, I paid at 10-20 but right now I still got no update from them .. check out other threads, seems many applicants got no reply from them for a long time. Maybe they are solving some very big problems ? Since I know they have just opened a hedge fund.
  • #5
  • Nov 5, 2006 10:25am Nov 5, 2006 10:25am
Most signals providers have a motive. Whether they really are not traders themselves, or are simply getting attention for future wealth building opportunities. Vegas is no exception to anyone else, he does things for his gain... which is what everyone does. That is cool enough : ).

I would look for a small group of guys to get together with instead of paying for signals. Outside of training purchased and signed legally not to disclose most in groups are willing to share.

When you communicate back and forth on the message board send a couple PMs. You may find someone that you would like to work with. Then just hammer strategies you find on this board out with some of them. Mouteki, Bagovino, Tlatomi (sp) etc.
The market is my nation. Traders, my family. Hello, brothers and sisters!
  • #6
  • Nov 5, 2006 10:44am Nov 5, 2006 10:44am
Quoting aparsai
I prefer to rely on my own tools rather than others. If your signals make money for you, you do not really sell them for a few dollars to others. You either trade them and enjoy or if you want to share them with others you share them for free.
Amen

Agree 100%


make an easy calculation : subscribers X montly fee


here are the forex milionairs

But I would sell also if I had clients

Its a business like others
  • #7
  • Nov 5, 2006 11:19am Nov 5, 2006 11:19am
Quoting trucco


make an easy calculation : subscribers X montly fee


Its a business like others
I wont name it but a service provider I am aware of made about 200k in 4 months on subscriptions. You can say it is over now but... it was a good run when he had it going. What so so trader wouldnt want to pick up cash by giving trades.

I am not suggesting anything about Vegas, I heard it is a pretty good service. Just services havent done anything good for me. I like my own education and my own work.
The market is my nation. Traders, my family. Hello, brothers and sisters!
  • #8
  • Nov 5, 2006 4:55pm Nov 5, 2006 4:55pm
Quoting StockKJay
I wont name it but a service provider I am aware of made about 200k in 4 months on subscriptions. You can say it is over now but... it was a good run when he had it going. What so so trader wouldnt want to pick up cash by giving trades.

I am not suggesting anything about Vegas, I heard it is a pretty good service. Just services havent done anything good for me. I like my own education and my own work.
I know what you are talking about.
Im pretty sure some people here make more money by selling signals then by trade in real.

Its up to people if they want to buy signal, but this is not the way that will let them make the money...

there are milions of traders over there, its enought to make 1000 your clients, ask 100$ a month, and you cash 100 X 1000 = 100'000 $ a months.....

How many months you need to earn such money with trading ? and where do you put the risk involved in trading which in signals is not existing ?

Its a great business, for sure
  • #9
  • Nov 5, 2006 5:59pm Nov 5, 2006 5:59pm
I personally have paid a lot on forex education. i know there are some cheats out there, but there are also some great people. Sure they might make a lot of money from subscribers but their generosity excels. i don't really like signals but I like Vegas' methods and i like his attitude. His weekly blogs are great and his methodology is also great. i have never met the man but i appreciate all he has to offer.

There are many good traders on this forum and some are or have been willing to share for nothing, but it seems that many people do not appreciate their efforts and quickly sling crap at them when their methods or signals produce some losers. Maybe there would be a lot more sharing if people would show a bit of respect.

Vegas and the James16 group have been my staple diet for the last year and I appreciate everything I get from these guys. I'd definately encourage you to subscribe. If you are patient and persistant you will realise the value of what these guys have to offer.

No offence intended to anyone who has posted here.

Wiz.
  • #10
  • Nov 5, 2006 6:28pm Nov 5, 2006 6:28pm
Quoting The Wizard of Oz

but it seems that many people do not appreciate their efforts and quickly sling crap at them when their methods or signals produce some losers.

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Yep. That is the good reason I see for charging. It weeds out the people that dont really have open minds (not all). I personally enjoy reading every strategy on the board. Many of them I dont look twice at because I know they wont fit with my emotions and so forth. Others I use to help filter my trading and really appreciate the open sharing.
The market is my nation. Traders, my family. Hello, brothers and sisters!
  • #11
  • Nov 5, 2006 6:47pm Nov 5, 2006 6:47pm
very well said..

Quoting The Wizard of Oz
I personally have paid a lot on forex education. i know there are some cheats out there, but there are also some great people. Sure they might make a lot of money from subscribers but their generosity excels. i don't really like signals but I like Vegas' methods and i like his attitude. His weekly blogs are great and his methodology is also great. i have never met the man but i appreciate all he has to offer.

There are many good traders on this forum and some are or have been willing to share for nothing, but it seems that many people do not appreciate their efforts and quickly sling crap at them when their methods or signals produce some losers. Maybe there would be a lot more sharing if people would show a bit of respect.

Vegas and the James16 group have been my staple diet for the last year and I appreciate everything I get from these guys. I'd definately encourage you to subscribe. If you are patient and persistant you will realise the value of what these guys have to offer.

No offence intended to anyone who has posted here.

Wiz.
  • #12
  • Nov 6, 2006 2:22am Nov 6, 2006 2:22am
Quoting The Wizard of Oz
I personally have paid a lot on forex education. i know there are some cheats out there, but there are also some great people. Sure they might make a lot of money from subscribers but their generosity excels. i don't really like signals but I like Vegas' methods and i like his attitude. His weekly blogs are great and his methodology is also great. i have never met the man but i appreciate all he has to offer.

There are many good traders on this forum and some are or have been willing to share for nothing, but it seems that many people do not appreciate their efforts and quickly sling crap at them when their methods or signals produce some losers. Maybe there would be a lot more sharing if people would show a bit of respect.

Vegas and the James16 group have been my staple diet for the last year and I appreciate everything I get from these guys. I'd definately encourage you to subscribe. If you are patient and persistant you will realise the value of what these guys have to offer.

No offence intended to anyone who has posted here.

Wiz.

generosity ?

Are you sure ?

I want also to be generous then, if being generous let you make 200.000 $ a months
  • #13
  • Nov 6, 2006 2:47am Nov 6, 2006 2:47am
Quoting trucco
generosity ?

Are you sure ?

I want also to be generous then, if being generous let you make 200.000 $ a months
He has given a lot of free information already. For those who are subscribed to his strategy he continues to offer material and extra benefits.

Vegas does not pay me to say any of this. i just think when it comes to offering assistance he seems pretty generous about it.

That's my experience anyway.

Wiz.
  • #14
  • Nov 6, 2006 3:01am Nov 6, 2006 3:01am
Quoting The Wizard of Oz
He has given a lot of free information already. For those who are subscribed to his strategy he continues to offer material and extra benefits.

Vegas does not pay me to say any of this. i just think when it comes to offering assistance he seems pretty generous about it.

That's my experience anyway.

Wiz.
I was not talking about vegas in particular, I dont even know him,
But saying that who sells signals or a products is generous, its not logical.

Who sells signlans or whatever is just making business
  • #15
  • Nov 6, 2006 5:06am Nov 6, 2006 5:06am
You know, I didn't want to start a discussion about trading with or without signals. The thing is I have read most of the free Vegas material and consider it to be very valuable, I have however found that many people have had or are having problems with this service in terms of communication. I have been also going through collective2 records where supposedly Vegas performance would be registered and have not found anything good. My question is for tunneltrading.com members, will I benefit from subscribing? if so, in what ways? what is your experience? please share your point of view. Thanx
  • #16
  • Nov 6, 2006 8:32pm Nov 6, 2006 8:32pm
Quoting isydeb
You know, I didn't want to start a discussion about trading with or without signals. The thing is I have read most of the free Vegas material and consider it to be very valuable, I have however found that many people have had or are having problems with this service in terms of communication. I have been also going through collective2 records where supposedly Vegas performance would be registered and have not found anything good. My question is for tunneltrading.com members, will I benefit from subscribing? if so, in what ways? what is your experience? please share your point of view. Thanx
Hi isydeb, for "have not found anything good" do you mean that you cant find the corresponding strategy in collective2 or the performance of Vegas methods do not have outstanding performance ? Is c2 using the latest variation of Vegas, for instance, Knife.. to perform the testing ?
  • #17
  • Nov 6, 2006 10:00pm Nov 6, 2006 10:00pm
Well what I meant is that they do not have clear data on it so I do not know what to make of it.
  • #18
  • Nov 7, 2006 5:57am Nov 7, 2006 5:57am
Quoting trucco
Amen

Agree 100%


make an easy calculation : subscribers X montly fee


here are the forex milionairs

But I would sell also if I had clients

Its a business like others
  • #19
  • Nov 7, 2006 8:10pm Nov 7, 2006 8:10pm
I'm not finding much educational or profitable about the vegas subscription.

Being a cynic I would venture a guess this guy needed to raise capital for this new system he is trading for the signal service (i.e. subscribers are his hedge fund). Prior to subscribing, I asked questions about this 'hedge fund' and the answers were shrouded in secrecy and 'cannot talk about that'. At the time I was in awe of him so I gave in to my better judgment and subscribed. In hindsight waiting for him to show me the way and listening to the pep rally blogs has just detracted from my forex education. I'll bet he's just another forex player, possibly down on his luck.

Note that all the system information should all be available for free at his website because the blogs are free after they age 4 weeks, so any potential subscriber would do well to read all these before trying to find an egold (another seedy subject) broker and fork over your capital.

There is enough expertise on this forum to teach you all you need to know about forex, finding and/or developing a system, and how to trade. You dont need this subscription unless your particularly interested in this system he is trading and then since there are so few trades you may be better of waiting for the free version of the blogs/signals.

Best Regards,
Ah.
  • #20
  • Nov 8, 2006 9:03am Nov 8, 2006 9:03am
Thanx Ah, this has been helpful!

what about the VWBIII and knife files? are they any different (good)?
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