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  • #9,021
  • Nov 10, 2020 6:21pm Nov 10, 2020 6:21pm
New Version Supply and Demand V4

I received a PM to add a "deadzone" feature, meaning keep the supply/demand zone around after price clears it. The deadzone will stay until the indicator creates new zones and resets.

It is optional to use deadzones (setting the input to true or false) and the color of the deadzone can be chosen. See screenshot below for this new feature
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  • #9,022
  • Nov 10, 2020 7:15pm Nov 10, 2020 7:15pm
Keep an eye on NZDUSD - it is pushing on zones created Jan-Mar 2019 - we are hitting daily zones embedded into Monthly zone
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Monthly zone
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  • #9,023
  • Nov 10, 2020 7:31pm Nov 10, 2020 7:31pm
NZDJPY in all large timeframe supply zones....
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  • #9,024
  • Nov 10, 2020 7:43pm Nov 10, 2020 7:43pm
Hello, very interesting work here. I think NZD has seen a lot of inflows over the last few trading sessions, ahead of the rate decision. We are now pending the press conference in about 19 minutes, thereafter I see unwinding of NZD buys.
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  • #9,025
  • Nov 10, 2020 7:57pm Nov 10, 2020 7:57pm
Hi Barnell,

Showing an early breakout attempt - press conference in 5 minutes....

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  • #9,026
  • Nov 11, 2020 2:06am Nov 11, 2020 2:06am
Quoting Skf
Hi Barnell, Showing an early breakout attempt - press conference in 5 minutes.... {image}
Hi
What indicator or piece of code are you using to mark supply and demand zones?
Many uses zig zag but it's not great.
Thanks
  • #9,027
  • Nov 11, 2020 7:19am Nov 11, 2020 7:19am
Quoting Merka
{quote} Hi What indicator or piece of code are you using to mark supply and demand zones? Many uses zig zag but it's not great. Thanks
Merka

Merka- Latest version of this indicator is on post #9021. It is based on a Fractal (left candles, right candles) in a value in the parameters. However, after each "fractal" point is gathered it is used/unused depending on price path and previous fractals and wheter or not price has been there before, etc.

Nice reaction on top zone on both pairs, notice how it consolidated in the previous zone and then broke out -

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  • #9,028
  • Nov 11, 2020 9:44am Nov 11, 2020 9:44am
Quoting Skf
{quote} Merka Merka- Latest version of this indicator is on post #9021. It is based on a Fractal (left candles, right candles) in a value in the parameters. However, after each "fractal" point is gathered it is used/unused depending on price path and previous fractals and wheter or not price has been there before, etc. Nice reaction on top zone on both pairs, notice how it consolidated in the previous zone and then broke out - {image}
Understood
Thanks
  • #9,029
  • Edited 11:22am Nov 15, 2020 9:07am | Edited 11:22am
Hello traders,
Please correct me if I am wrong.
When we draw curve zones( big picture) if we are in an uptrend CPs (RBR) are valid as (demand) and a fresh peak(RBD) as supply , as soon as trendline breaks with a OHCL candle ( consolidation phase) we don't count CPs as demand and we go straight to the demand Valley (DBR) for curve. Is this correct? I read this from one of Alfonso pdfs.
But, I saw some of AKT videos, he draw every single valid CPs as supply or demand and does not pay attention if trend line changes.
And here is that I get confused about supply and demand methodology!
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  • #9,030
  • Nov 16, 2020 12:18pm Nov 16, 2020 12:18pm
Quoting LiliBiili
Hello traders, Please correct me if I am wrong. When we draw curve zones( big picture) if we are in an uptrend CPs (RBR) are valid as (demand) and a fresh peak(RBD) as supply , as soon as trendline breaks with a OHCL candle ( consolidation phase) we don't count CPs as demand and we go straight to the demand Valley (DBR) for curve. Is this correct? I read this from one of Alfonso pdfs. But, I saw some of AKT videos, he draw every single valid CPs as supply or demand and does not pay attention if trend line changes. And here is that I get confused...

Personally I don't try to make it too complicated. I will try and sell at previous RBD and buy at DBR. Especially if, for example the H1 zone is embedded in a Daily zone or Daily zone embedded in a monthly (basically Higher timeframe confluence) and some price action reaction occurs.....

As far as the trendline chart you show - are you asking if the DBD at #4 is invalid because of the trendline break and price should return to #5 without a reaction to #4?

As far as AKT and trendlines, from what I see of his videos, he uses the trendline break and removal of zones as evidence to take the trade. (please correct me if I am wrong here), I'm not an expert and just learning myself.
  • #9,031
  • Edited 8:46am Nov 17, 2020 8:17am | Edited 8:46am
Quoting Skf
{quote} Personally I don't try to make it too complicated. I will try and sell at previous RBD and buy at DBR. Especially if, for example the H1 zone is embedded in a Daily zone or Daily zone embedded in a monthly (basically Higher timeframe confluence) and some price action reaction occurs..... As far as the trendline chart you show - are you asking if the DBD at #4 is invalid because of the trendline break and price should return to #5 without a reaction to #4? As far as AKT and trendlines, from what I see of his videos, he uses the trendline...
Thanks Skf, I read in an article from Alfonso Moreno that when price is trending in one direction lets say downtrend, as long as the trendline is with us and has not broken we can use continuation pattern DBD as curve measurement and sell from them but if the downtrend line breaks with an OHCL candle we don't count DBD as curve because its lower probability to sell from we need to lean on peaks. if the trend changes from downtrend to uptrend DBD supplies are lower probability to sell from.

 

  1. CPs will be used as part of the curve as long as a TL is holding in one direction.
  2. CP patterns will no longer be used as part of the curve once a TL is broken, an extreme valley/peak that was the origin of the imbalance on that TF will be the zone in control
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if zone A breaks - we don't sell at DBD patterns.

  • #9,032
  • Nov 17, 2020 7:13pm Nov 17, 2020 7:13pm
Quoting LiliBiili
{quote} Thanks Skf, I read in an article from Alfonso Moreno that when price is trending in one direction lets say downtrend, as long as the trendline is with us and has not broken we can use continuation pattern DBD as curve measurement and sell from them but if the downtrend line breaks with an OHCL candle we don't count DBD as curve because its lower probability to sell from we need to lean on peaks. if the trend changes from downtrend to uptrend DBD supplies are lower probability to sell from. CPs will be used as part of the curve as long as...
Thanks for the explanation. For me, it's always best to show some examples, let's find some good ones!
  • #9,033
  • Nov 17, 2020 7:33pm Nov 17, 2020 7:33pm
AUDUSD sell idea -
Reasons:
-H1 supply in Daily supply area
-new low formed after lower high
- h1 demand.support taken out
- trendline break
-head and shouders

What do you all think?

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  • #9,034
  • Nov 18, 2020 6:30am Nov 18, 2020 6:30am
Quoting Skf
AUDUSD sell idea - Reasons: -H1 supply in Daily supply area -new low formed after lower high - h1 demand.support taken out - trendline break -head and shouders What do you all think? {image}
Price is ranging right now in daily, and currently sitting in a not fresh supply, in general i prefer to see the current weekly and daily supplies remove. And creates new demands, let's see what happens.
  • #9,035
  • Nov 18, 2020 8:14am Nov 18, 2020 8:14am
Quoting Skf
AUDUSD sell idea - Reasons: -H1 supply in Daily supply area -new low formed after lower high - h1 demand.support taken out - trendline break -head and shouders What do you all think? {image}
I do agree, the D1 supply area is also close to a weekly supply area.

One thing I have noticed is that on my chart, the areas drawn do differ, could these be broker specific / dependant?
  • #9,036
  • Nov 18, 2020 9:47am Nov 18, 2020 9:47am
Quoting xxsskxx
{quote} I do agree, the D1 supply area is also close to a weekly supply area. One thing I have noticed is that on my chart, the areas drawn do differ, could these be broker specific / dependant?

Hi - the indicator settings you see on my chart are daily and H1 timeframes - are you saying you are using the indicator and your zones are different? If so, can you post a chart and what your settings are?
  • #9,037
  • Nov 19, 2020 3:59am Nov 19, 2020 3:59am
Quoting Skf
{quote} Hi - the indicator settings you see on my chart are daily and H1 timeframes - are you saying you are using the indicator and your zones are different? If so, can you post a chart and what your settings are?
Both Daily and H1 attached, default settings
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  • #9,038
  • Nov 19, 2020 8:43am Nov 19, 2020 8:43am
Quoting xxsskxx
{quote} Both Daily and H1 attached, default settings {image}
Chart looks same now - possibly the H1 may have been different as it can change by the hour? You can see because a few hours have gone by that our charts differ a little because the H1 timeframe zones progressed

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  • #9,039
  • Nov 22, 2020 8:40pm Nov 22, 2020 8:40pm
Quoting Skf
Here is a new version of my supply and demand indicator. It works same as older one but eliminates some bugs and has better performance. Please replace my original indicator (Supply_and_Demand_V1.ex4) from post # 8920 with this new one Any questions please let me know{file}. I noticed quite a few downloads but only a few feedbacks - thanks hope you enjoy it. ********NOTE: shortly after I uploaded this, I had a request to add color changing for the zones. I have updated the attached indicator here for color changing the zones.
NICE SUPPLY DEMAND INDICATOR.i always like snd along with smart money orderblock . i will give you you more feedback latter.thanks
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  • #9,040
  • Nov 23, 2020 6:09pm Nov 23, 2020 6:09pm
Quoting classy
{quote} NICE SUPPLY DEMAND INDICATOR.i always like snd along with smart money orderblock . i will give you you more feedback latter.thanks
Thanks classy - make sure you are using V4 from post #9021
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