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Quoting Viktory
{quote} {quote} Lol, dude, seriously! Like wtf? It seems that you still have problems to properly read/interpret other people's comments, and are always complaining (yes, you) with an intrusive defensive attitude that no one asked for. KK100 wasn't criticizing, nor questioning, neither judging them in any way. Period. He even has personally communicated with Rick a lot more than you; so who's the one talking out of his ass right now, just assuming nonsense things? I mean, trust me, you really don't need to always interfere as some sort of personal...
@Viktory -- dude -- this seems like deja vue...

"Act like a pro if you think you are pro."
@Viktory -- those were @kk100's words. He was scolding @RickM and @AnRan over their discussion / argument. I want to hear more from @RickM and @AnRan. I don't like it when people tell others what they should or shouldn't say.

@Viktory -- @kk100's post followed mine -- so, it was safe to assume he was also scolding me for my opinion, as well. Are you really suggesting it was inappropriate for me to respond or I shouldn't have? As for problems reading / interpreting -- as I mentioned above, we've already gone down this path before. If you want to go down it again we certainly can.

@Viktory -- and as for butting in, seems to me you're now acting as @kk100's bodyguard -- just saying...
Quoting Viktory
{quote} {quote} Lol, dude, seriously! Like wtf? It seems that you still have problems to properly read/interpret other people's comments, and are always complaining (yes, you) with an intrusive defensive attitude that no one asked for. KK100 wasn't criticizing, nor questioning, neither judging them in any way. Period. He even has personally communicated with Rick a lot more than you; so who's the one talking out of his ass right now, just assuming nonsense things? I mean, trust me, you really don't need to always interfere as some sort of personal...
Viktory

Yes My point is not attacking people, this kind of debate could be very interesting if start digging deeper , and could be lead interesting conversation.
Its sad often things goes I like herrings and others like canned tuna. I hate you.

I would like to see quality, what I have seen Ricks ealier posts, and chats in Discord, here are not many people what i like to read he is one of them.
Quoting robots4me
{quote} @Viktory -- dude -- this seems like deja vue... "Act like a pro if you think you are pro." @Viktory -- those were @kk100's words. He was scolding @RickM and @AnRan over their discussion / argument. I want to hear more from @RickM and @AnRan. I don't like it when people tell others what they should or shouldn't say. @Viktory -- @kk100's post followed mine -- so, it was safe to assume he was also scolding me for my opinion, as well. Are you really suggesting it was inappropriate for me to respond or I shouldn't have? As for problems reading...
What a Duck.

Whats your problem , its a proverb METAPHOR !.
I am not attacking people, but discussion. How easily it can go wrong here in forexfactory.
Quoting kk100
You are absolute true there are people who are in they chambers and do research, and publish papers. Thats they job. They have enough time for reaseraching things like a random or chaos. Which can be fruitfull or not. There also lot of quants who build methods,strategies, who do also deep research about things. Some are public and some not. Example Prediction Company. Farmer and Packard. Forexfactory has quantity but not quality, thats a problem, and people are against each other, if someone says something different,this thread is good example about...
"I would like to see, people proof somehow they view,and not throw words against each other."
@kk100 -- you are old enough to know there are different types of discussions. There are informal discussions where people exchange ideas and opinions and are free to agree / disagree -- freed from the requirement of providing documented evidence. Furthermore, you should know for every paper claiming one result you can often find another that claims a different result. If we weren't allowed to discuss free from referencing research papers then open discussion would be stifled and come to a end. That would definitely be a bad outcome...

@kk100 -- whenever you tell your wife something does she demand you reference 3 research papers? Imagine how that would work -- probably not so well.

If you don't like open discussions or opinion sharing, then stay away from threads where there is open discusson and opinion sharing...

Furthermore -- I wouldn't go around scolding people like @RickM, @AnRan and myself to act professionally. They are busy trading and are probably less inclined to respond, but my days are spent mostly napping so I have more time to get into trouble...
Quoting kk100
{quote} What a Duck. Whats your problem , its a proverb. METAFORA I am not attacking people, but discussion. How easily it can go wrong here in forexfactory.
"Act like a pro if you think you are pro."
@kk100 -- it's a metafor? Sounds more like a scolding...

No one here boasted of being a professional, so the scolding wasn't called for. As I recall, you were the one who intimated superiority by claiming:
"Anyhow have been many financial engineer conferences around world, talk directly face to face with some of famous reasearchers.
Have been this bussiness since 1990. So I might have some experience and little bit scientific approach."

EDIT: @kk100 -- did you see @Viktory's post above? Isn't that exactly the type of post you hate? This is the way it goes at FF. @RickM and @AnRan are having a discussion / disagreement, and end it amicably. I shared my opinion that was slightly different yet accommodated theirs. You then came along and scolded the 3 of us -- you didn't even bother to add to the discussion or present any research papers promoting random or non-random. And then @Viktory crawls out of the woodwork with his toxic post that represents everything most of us dislike here at FF. At least the entertainment value is worth the price of admission...
Quoting robots4me
{quote} "Act like a pro if you think you are pro." @kk100 -- it's a metafor? Sounds more like a scolding... No one here boasted of being a professional, so the scolding wasn't called for. As I recall, you were the one who intimated superiority by claiming: "Anyhow have been many financial engineer conferences around world, talk directly face to face with some of famous reasearchers. Have been this bussiness since 1990. So I might have some experience and little bit scientific approach."

You are taking words and putting them different context. Have been waisting too much time for you.


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Quoting kk100
{quote} You are taking words and putting them different context. Have been waisting too much time for you. I
@kk100 -- I quoted you. The context was my post that preceeded yours.

@kk100 -- don't go. If you so desperately desire a discussion that includes "proof" then why not provide an example of how it should go -- and please include 3 references.

@kk100 -- this is so silly. I can't believe I'm still posting. It just proves I have too much time on my hands. Oops -- I said "proves". I guess I'm now obligated to include 3 references proving I really do have too much time on my hands...
Im only thinks that those who have already found the right path are no longer arguing, no longer.
@robots4me:

"KK100's post followed mine -- so, it was safe to assume he was also scolding me for my opinion, as well."
- See what I mean? Nothing more than pure childish assumptions. He only gave his general (not aimed towards anyone specifically) personal opinion over the topic; yes, after yours simply because, well, people read/write at different moments and hence their posts occur/register on a progressive timeline order

"And as for butting in, seems to me you're now acting as @KK100's bodyguard -- just saying."
- Couldn't you come up with anything better, instead of replying with the same thing backwards? Clearly, I interfered after you molested another member to whom I mostly agree, without any rational reason behind it. And most of my posts have nothing to do with this kind of "issues", compared to yours.

"@KK100 -- did you see @Viktory's post above? Isn't that exactly the type of post you hate? This is the way it goes at FF... And then @Viktory crawls out of the woodwork with his toxic post that represents everything most of us dislike here at FF."
- Gee man, I was just replying to you, pointing out how you habitually behave here (maybe becoming the example so you can see it better); while then you respond trying to put KK100 against me. Lol, you are annoyingly nuts, but at least sometimes funny. Does the truth hurt you perhaps? Did you feel reflected in some way?

Yes, as always, you're evidently "selecting words and putting them out of context" (very well said). Damn, you should stop feeling attacked by taking things personally, to the point of having delusional perceptions. Dude, the fact is that since you returned to the forum, most of what you do is getting into silly off-topic arguments, steadily "taking parts" that no one asked for (like you're looking for conflict). Were you severely bullied at school? Cause you really seem psychologically damaged in a pathological way, constantly projecting your insecurities towards others, as if they were directly against your persona.

* You are as biased regarding mature intelligent dialectics, as all those traders "finding" countless fake "patterns" (illusions) everywhere...
Quoting Viktory
@robots4me: "KK100's post followed mine -- so, it was safe to assume he was also scolding me for my opinion, as well." - See what I mean? Nothing more than pure childish assumptions. He only gave his general (not aimed towards anyone specifically) personal opinion over the topic; yes, after yours simply because, well, people read/write at different moments and hence their posts occur/register on a progressive timeline order "And as for butting in, seems to me you're now acting as @KK100's bodyguard -- just saying."...
"Clearly, I interfered after you molested another member to whom I mostly agree."
@Viktory -- oh my. Now you're accusing me of molesting another FF member.

"Damn, you should stop feeling attacked by taking things personally, to the point of having delusional perceptions."
@Viktory -- do you see how silly this comes across? You accuse me of molesting another FF member, and you follow that by instructing me to stop feeling attacked and taking things personally.

"Dude, the fact is that since you returned to the forum, most of what you do is getting into silly off-topic arguments, steadily "taking parts" that no one asked for (like you're looking for conflict)."
@Viktory -- do you mean like my initial post here a few hours ago where I added my opinion to the random / non-random argument (https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...5#post13216925). It got several "likes". So, it was probably on-topic and no one took offense.

"Were you severely bullied at school? Cause you really seem psychologically damaged in a pathological way, constantly projecting your insecurities towards others, as if they were directly against your persona."
@Viktory -- actually, if I could have a do-over for high school I would probably go for that. Do you think that is the cause of my getting into trouble here at FF? Hmmmmm -- maybe so. Thanks -- you probably saved me thousands of dollars in psychiatrist fees.

"You are as biased regarding mature intelligent dialectics, as all those traders "finding" countless fake "patterns" (illusions) everywhere..."
@Viktory -- all this because I suggested that random / non-random may be viewed from different perspectives.

@Viktory -- me thinks you're still affected from our previous interactions from over a year ago -- which is fine. It is flattering to know I had such a profound affect on you. I wasn't aware until now. I didn't realize that something I had said in the past caused a bug to crawl up you a-s...
Quoting robots4me
{quote} "Clearly, I interfered after you molested another member to whom I mostly agree." @Viktory -- oh my. Now you're accusing me of molesting another FF member. "Damn, you should stop feeling attacked by taking things personally, to the point of having delusional perceptions." @Viktory -- do you see how silly this comes across? You accuse me of molesting another FF member, and you follow that by instructing me to stop feeling attacked and taking things personally. "Dude, the fact is that since you returned to the forum, most of what you do is getting into silly off-topic arguments, steadily "taking parts" that no one asked for (like you're looking for conflict)." @Viktory -- do you mean like my initial post here a few hours ago where I added my opinion to the random / non-random argument (https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...5#post13216925). It got several "likes". So, it was probably on-topic and no one took offense. "Were you severely bullied at school? Cause you really seem psychologically damaged in a pathological way, constantly projecting your insecurities towards others, as if they were directly against your persona." @Viktory -- actually, if I could have a do-over for high school I would probably go for that. Do you think that is the cause of my getting into trouble here at FF? Hmmmmm -- maybe so. Thanks -- you probably saved me thousands of dollars in psychiatrist fees. "You are as biased regarding mature intelligent dialectics, as all those traders "finding" countless fake "patterns" (illusions) everywhere..." @Viktory -- all this because I suggested that random / non-random may be viewed from different perspectives. @Viktory -- me thinks you're still affected from our previous interactions from over a year ago -- which is fine. It is flattering to know I had such a profound affect on you. I wasn't aware until now. I didn't realize that something I had said in the past caused a bug to crawl up you a-s...
I'm not "accusing" you; it was obvious for everyone.

Yes, it's like a vicious circle... clearly started by you, involving more members than just me; also in other threads. Sorry, but somebody had to tell you the harsh truth. The thing is that you simply can't stop annoying people with your needs of always having the last word. You know, usually, when a person has problems with others who don't have problems among them, then he's the one with the problem.

Again, you're totally out of context. I wasn't referring to other constructive like-minded contributions, but this kind. Actually, I often agree with some of your insights and perspectives/ideas; and I have no issue recognizing it.

You are welcome, I'm glad I saved you a little bit of money in the process
Talking about "likes" (lol, mine included), you're just confirming that you can't seem to get your EGO/pride out of the way, just like teenagers act; proving my point as well. I honestly don't care who has the biggest cock.

And at the end, you're just assuming things over and over, going in circles. In fact, I wasn't left with the feeling of having ended with any "dilemma" between us, gosh. So please don't place your own words in someone else's mouth. I'm only arguing that you haven't evolved at all, showing the same kind of recurring negative behavior even after an 8-month long break from here.

Congratulations for never giving up on your personal battles, you melodramatic keyboard warrior
Those demons must be tough!
seriously? this thread I come to read once in awhile has turned to pissing contest and psycho-analysis theater. Chill off, talk about trading, this place is FOREXfactory not FIGHTclub. Chill Guys, life is wonderful....
Quoting Viktory
@robots4me: "KK100's post followed mine -- so, it was safe to assume he was also scolding me for my opinion, as well." - See what I mean? Nothing more than pure childish assumptions. He only gave his general (not aimed towards anyone specifically) personal opinion over the topic; yes, after yours simply because, well, people read/write at different moments and hence their posts occur/register on a progressive timeline order "And as for butting in, seems to me you're now acting as @KK100's bodyguard -- just saying."...
Hello @Viktory -- you used to be such a nice fellow, what happened? Now you've turned into a potty mouth, with your vitriolic posts.

@Viktory -- there are 1000's of members who could have come to @kk100's defense. It strikes me as ironic that of all those people it was you who assigned himself as @kk100's bodyguard, as if @kk100 was incapable of fending for himself. That exposes your condescending attitude toward him. Furthermore, your type of comments are exactly what @kk100 detests most. He must be feeling so embarrassed having an individual like yourself interject on his behalf. Now I'm feeling sorry for @kk100.

@Viktory -- I'm insulting you, yet I didn't need to use any potty language. So, you see, it can be done...
Quoting robots4me
{quote} Hello @Viktory -- you used to be such a nice fellow, what happened? Now you've turned into a potty mouth, with your vitriolic posts. @Viktory -- there are 1000's of members who could have come to @kk100's defense. It strikes me as ironic that of all those people it was you who assigned himself as @kk100's bodyguard, as if @kk100 was incapable of fending for himself. That exposes your condescending attitude toward him. Furthermore, your type of comments are exactly was @kk100 detests most. He must be feeling so embarrassed having an individual...
Look, I feel compelled to step in an Umpire this S.H.I.T. Cut it out...back to the nice thread. All of us/you drop our/your EGOs. Really starting to get childish...really cut it, starting to be embarrassing...go review your trades if you had a bad week instead of vent on someone else, won't help your trading...DONE!
Quoting danasa
{quote} Look, I feel compelled to step in an Umpire this S.H.I.T. Cut it out...back to the nice thread. All of us/you drop our/your EGOs. Really starting to get childish...really cut it, starting to be embarrassing...go review your trades if you had a bad week instead of vent on someone else, won't help your trading...DONE!
@danasa -- the S.H.I.T. as you call it had stopped. But then you stepped in it. You've now just unwittingly contributed to what you claim you want to stop, and so it continues...
Quoting robots4me
{quote} @danasa -- the S.H.I.T. as you call it had stopped. But then you stepped in it. You've now just unwittingly contributed to what you claim you want to stop, and so it continues...
hmm...bro, okay, we all humbly step out...we forgive all and move on, Amen. THE END. Have a nice weekend with your family.
Excuse the intrusion, I don't have the time or the courage to read all the "cocks on the table" (egos),
but do your homework or don't do it, you may or may not find something very good here, or maybe you can find it elsewhere thread or other site,
maybe in the gold rush some did not find nuggets (sometimes because they spent more time talking about where they could be than searching and working ...) where others did, it may also be that where others found them now they will not do so ...
In any case, the only certainty is that without doing your homework you will NEVER know ... my experience is that what is exposed here is a good "rope" or STARTING POINT to find a good nugget (although it is also true that I dont like "chewed food", use your imagination...), so I can't be more than grateful to all the participants in this thread, especially to CeeSo ...
gambling "maybe yes", "maybe not", it's a distracted hobby but it doesn't seem like a long road, just food for the ego...
Here you can see very capable people, which I am convinced that they can contribute much more than until now ...
Which at the end of the day meant that this thread begins to have so many "trees" that they are beginning to prevent us from seeing the "forest"...

greetings (and excuse my rudeness)
Newbie trader
Quoting mtako
{quote} Great work ryuryu! In my opinion, your work on this is such that it deserves it's own thread. Thanks a lot for sharing, hoping to see more.
Thanks for the kind words. I'll not start my own thread because it will be ruined to. I have implemented this approach into my strategy and it works f**king perfect. I wanted to share it here on FF but it seems no one need it.
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Just can't understand why there are another +2 pages of blah-blah-blah with 0% benefit. Who are these FF users? They are not traders. Traders are researchers, pioneers, not a crying babies talking all day long about market is unpredictable and random. It is not random and it is not unpredictable. It is like a truck driving up or down the hill. You can't stop your truck immediately if it moves down the fill fast. If you hit brakes you truck will move forward at some distance anyway. Because of physics.

Anyway, don't cast pearls before swine. Real traders and smart heads are welcome.

P.S. This is my last contribute. EA based on the rules of the thread. It will work till 31.12.2020.
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greed and fear
You are not alone, I don't understand either how there can be so much of these kind of exchanges. I'm new here and won't stay long because of all this. People used to more respectful, considerate, to think instead attacking, give the benefit of the doubt, etc. Not like now.

I personally thank you very much for your contributions and am sad that you will not open a thread for it but I respect it and understand it 100%.

Take good care of yourself.
Quoting robots4me
{quote} Hello @Viktory -- you used to be such a nice fellow, what happened? Now you've turned into a potty mouth, with your vitriolic posts. @Viktory -- there are 1000's of members who could have come to @kk100's defense. It strikes me as ironic that of all those people it was you who assigned himself as @kk100's bodyguard, as if @kk100 was incapable of fending for himself. That exposes your condescending attitude toward him. Furthermore, your type of comments are exactly what @kk100 detests most. He must be feeling so embarrassed having an individual...
He is still nice fellow, the problem here ff is that we dont have open dialect, where we all respect each other like a pros who are meeting each other face to face and not throw shit to other peoples face, same time the reasearchers who you are against , do also good job, i remember when i was junior, i was thiking these people who do research, are just talking heads, but they do something which are starting point for more lucrative reasearch which can help traders.

About defense, he is not. Scroll back when i was fighting here with dude who was telling we all traders are loosers, and want zero leverage.

You are reason, why i dont share information what i have learnt 30 yrs this bussiness, and i cant never understand why Victory, Rick , ProfitFarmer,George and others do.

Market is not singular, markets are random , chaotic, linear its not only one state it changing all the time.


IS IT TOO MUCH

If I ask people proof somehow, are market random or not or chaotic.
or similar clames.

But for you , You think I am attacking people, I am just asking proof of they views, which can lead things more interesting. I dont say who is right, because there is no right or wrong.

Go Learn Life.

I dnt have no proof, about your trading skill, but i have seen , Ricks and Victory's.

The thing how you call reasearchers do research and bullshit, and you and other small account traders do trading. You mean they are not real deal.
Do you think you are real deal, with you account, do you really think you are real trader. against multi billion companies reaserachers and traders.
You are just a nut in squirrels balls.

Markets are not singular, they are random, chaotic, linear. The problem is how you regonize when they are different phase, there is no right or wrong.
random or not. Like your partner is not everyday princess, she or he can be hunter or nun or cosmic or serial killer of plants.

And Biggest surprise for you it can be same time both. Many state.
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