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  • Sep 30, 2020 5:18pm Sep 30, 2020 5:18pm
  •  Rennaissance
  • Joined Oct 2017 | Status: Member | 755 Posts
Quoting tiborf71
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I read the posts and I have a feeling that everyone here is a profitable trader. if I were a rookie I would even believe it. lol.
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It shows that many people know what they need to do to be successful but are unable to pull it through. Trading is just like a diet or any other thing requiring an extraordinary amount of discipline.
Every trade is different
 
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  •  alphaomega
  • Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Stare Into the Lights My Pretties! | 752 Posts
Quoting Rennaissance
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{quote} It shows that many people know what they need to do to be successful but are unable to pull it through. Trading is just like a diet or any other thing requiring an extraordinary amount of discipline.
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Discipline can't help you when the odds are mathematically stacked against you!
The theory about "lack of discipline" is yet another psychological excuse which many people use to keep the trading dream alive.
Either you have real mathematically proven working strategy with positive expectation per trade... or you don't.
If you have such strategy you can automate it so you will never have to deal with emotions ever again.
I use to believe in all that psychology crap some time ago.....
But then I realised that there is no middle ground in trading. There is no relative values or imaginary emotions. Everything is based on hardcore binary logic and math. The emotions are not a cause for the failure. They are a symptom. The subconscious mind can't deal with the complex maths and can't figure out the uncertainty of the market so it's sends you confusing signals and it makes you sweat.
 
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  •  tashkent
  • Joined Oct 2011 | Status: quo | 4,193 Posts
My turning point was when my grandma kicked me out of her basement and I had to earn at McDonalds to fund my account.
As Above, So Below
 
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  •  Rennaissance
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Quoting alphaomega
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{quote} Discipline can't help you when the odds are mathematically stacked against you! The theory about "lack of discipline" is yet another psychological excuse which many people use to keep the trading dream alive. Either you have real mathematically proven working strategy with positive expectation per trade... or you don't. If you have such strategy you can automate it so you will never have to deal with emotions ever again. I use to believe in all that psychology crap some time ago..... But then I realised that there is no middle ground in...
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I dont agree that only an edge will make you successful. The same as i dont believe only discipline will make you successful. You need both. An edge and the right mindset. You can give a mathematical edge to 100 people and only 2 will work out successful.
Every trade is different
 
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  •  newbegger
  • Joined May 2011 | Status: Member | 1,402 Posts
My failing was when I pushed and over traded to meet my quota which was 10% gain per week, which kept me from cutting my losers quickly.

The turning point was to never, ever, have a profit target other than the trade I am in at the moment.
Ecclesiastes 1:9
 
 
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  •  newbegger
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Quoting RoboSeer
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{quote} 1. Defeating emotions, especially fear, is not possible. Controlling it maybe, when one is able detach from the "everyday value" of money and use it as a TOOL. 2. Most of my EAs were self-designed and built by professional programmers. 3. You stated it very well, EAs have a "useful life", i.e. they don't last forever... Once their life spans expire, the search begins again...
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Fear is controllable. Greed is controllable. You just are not there yet on this journey.

A real awakening in you mind will occur when you realize, what you saw as fear was greed and what you saw as greed was fear.
Ecclesiastes 1:9
 
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  •  genghistar
  • Joined Mar 2012 | Status: Servant of wealth | 1,191 Posts
My turning point is when I realised I am the only failed trader amongst the 99.5% successful traders here in FF.
Winning is too easy for traders here in FF.

Cheers
 
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  •  Endoephemera
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Quoting genghistar
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My turning point is when I realised I am the only failed trader amongst the 99.5% successful traders here in FF. Winning is too easy for traders here in FF. Cheers
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What people here refer to as "turning point" is some minor revelation or development that allowed a peek into marginal profitability over some time frame as defined optimistically and with a large pinch of salt; certainly nothing spectacular.
Temperance (restraint in action, thought or feeling) is a virtue.
 
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  •  3ndlessHope
  • | Joined May 2016 | Status: Member | 542 Posts
moving to the futures market and trading orderflow
game changing stuff.
Necessity knows no law except to conquer
 
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  •  ficibald
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Quoting 3ndlessHope
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moving to the futures market and trading orderflow game changing stuff.
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witch indicator on which platform do you use for order flow?
 
 
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  •  3ndlessHope
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{quote} witch indicator on which platform do you use for order flow?
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ninja8 and my own indicators, a filtered and an unfiltered t&s and dom
Necessity knows no law except to conquer
 
 
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  •  HiddenGap
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{quote} ninja8 and my own indicators, a filtered and an unfiltered t&s and dom
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Would love to see a screenshot. I don't care about Hyndsight trade. I'm more interested in how you see the Market.
The Market is either drawing to liquidity or running to an imbalance.
 
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  •  KISvalue
  • | Joined Oct 2020 | Status: Member | 13 Posts
When I started, opened the mt4 of my broker. this was how my chart was looking- the second image,,,you won't believe I traded with small real money too. Then , gradually I evolved to this -- first image. Look how different it is looking now with those moves marked within the red lines. This surely was my AHA moment when I started seeing "something" in my charts.
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Trading fails when u try to defeat the market
 
 
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  •  reachfaulker
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The turning point in my trading came when I made a huge loss while I was using a high leverage. I realized that you should only use as much leverage as you can afford to lose.
 
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  •  SFundamental
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Does what is happening in the real world economies match what is happening in price
 
 
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  •  skyf
  • | Joined Mar 2020 | Status: Member | 293 Posts
When i realized that almost everything matters and started looking out for why not to make trade than why to place a trade because if a trade has any reason to go wrong, it will.
When i took MM more much seriously.
Then when i met some good guys in forexfactory.
Without despair & distraught, focus on Patience to FRESH MOVES.
 
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