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  • #2,561
  • Aug 29, 2020 8:38am Aug 29, 2020 8:38am
Once a swing is measured in both time (in hours) and price it's reduced to the hypotenuse using Pythagore theorem, and after....I consider the PTV (hypotenuse) as a side of a perfect square having 45 degrees and 45 degrees and 90 degrees angles in it...then find as it where the PTV (other 2 sides using trigonometry) and after, the last part is...getting the PTV for the true hypotenuse and using cos and sin rule (trigonometry) into time and price (note)...note I change the price into time by dividing by 24 hrs as well as time (it was a mistake I made when trying to understand Bradley but it works)...then you project forward using those days...attached is Jenkins visual projection...REMEMBER WHAT CAN BE DRAWN CAN BE CALCULATED
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  • #2,562
  • Aug 29, 2020 9:05am Aug 29, 2020 9:05am
Quoting EmmK
Once a swing is measured in both time (in hours) and price it's reduced to the hypotenuse using Pythagore theorem, and after....I consider the PTV (hypotenuse) as a side of a perfect square having 45 degrees and 45 degrees and 90 degrees angles in it...then find as it where the PTV (other 2 sides using trigonometry) and after, the last part is...getting the PTV for the true hypotenuse and using cos and sin rule (trigonometry) into time and price (note)...note I change the price into time by dividing by 24 hrs as well as time (it was a mistake I...
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  • Aug 29, 2020 9:07am Aug 29, 2020 9:07am
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  • Aug 29, 2020 9:13am Aug 29, 2020 9:13am
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  • #2,565
  • Aug 30, 2020 5:52pm Aug 30, 2020 5:52pm
Quoting EmmK
Once a swing is measured in both time (in hours) and price it's reduced to the hypotenuse using Pythagore theorem, and after....I consider the PTV (hypotenuse) as a side of a perfect square having 45 degrees and 45 degrees and 90 degrees angles in it...then find as it where the PTV (other 2 sides using trigonometry) and after, the last part is...getting the PTV for the true hypotenuse and using cos and sin rule (trigonometry) into time and price (note)...note I change the price into time by dividing by 24 hrs as well as time (it was a mistake I...
I get it.....but how in the world can you make a staring point angle without having your chart scaled perfectly? Can you show us a current chart with your calculations?
  • #2,566
  • Aug 31, 2020 1:12am Aug 31, 2020 1:12am
Quoting Swede
{quote} I get it.....but how in the world can you make a staring point angle without having your chart scaled perfectly? Can you show us a current chart with your calculations?
Check the book here:

https://drive.google.com/folderview?...RAllT1NasMjHnE

I will post for Wednesdays top (GBPUSD) calculation and post here today...
  • #2,567
  • Aug 31, 2020 5:14am Aug 31, 2020 5:14am
Quoting EmmK
{quote} Hey guys, as promised here is a screen shot of the calculations I put in excel...I won't explain it but I know from the last pdf and from the Jenkins writing you should know what I'm doing...it's open to discussion though , share your thoughts {image} {image}
Hey guys, as promised here is the calculation for the buy tomorrow (daily trade)...

I have removed much of the unnecessary angles, not applicable to this method, I left in the excel sheet...I have attached the spreadsheet.

Its a calculation for tomorrows trade so it is as current as current can be. I have noted the up swing on the screenshot which i hope you can calculate and confirm Wednesday 2 September 2020 beginning of the down swing.

Here is the tradingview analysis:
https://www.tradingview.com/x/7id6HKcf/

TO TAKE IT FURTHER, EXPERIMENT IN HOURLY CHART TO GET THE EXACT HOUR A TREND IS TO BEGIN
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  • #2,568
  • Aug 31, 2020 9:58am Aug 31, 2020 9:58am
Wow. Why am I just seeing this thread now? Never thought there would be more Gann traders other than the members at the planetary trading, and gann analysis threads over at the interactive section.

It looks like you guys are more focused on the Geometry and Numerology side of Gann whereas the other ones were esoteric.
There is nothing in the Universe but mathematical points of force.
  • #2,569
  • Aug 31, 2020 11:16am Aug 31, 2020 11:16am
Quoting EmmK
{quote} Hey guys, as promised here is the calculation for the buy tomorrow (daily trade)... I have removed much of the unnecessary angles, not applicable to this method, I left in the excel sheet...I have attached the spreadsheet. Its a calculation for tomorrows trade so it is as current as current can be. I have noted the up swing on the screenshot which i hope you can calculate and confirm Wednesday 2 September 2020 beginning of the down swing. Here is the tradingview analysis: https://www.tradingview.com/x/7id6HKcf/ TO TAKE IT FURTHER,...
I have read the .xlsx file you uploaded. But it's really hard to understand them.
1. The first is the angles: 45 - 90 - 45, currently excel is understanding the angle in radians, whether this is the unit you want.
2. Regarding an isosceles triangle with angles 45 - 90 - 45, there is no need to calculate the other side because the two sides of the triangle are equal.
3. Why is the hypotenuse of the isosceles triangle multiplied by 1.4. Is this number the square root of 2?
4. How is "True price" and "True time" different.
5. The calculation of the excel file differs from that of the pdf file that you submitted earlier. Is there any confusion here?
  • #2,570
  • Edited 1:12pm Aug 31, 2020 12:57pm | Edited 1:12pm
Quoting HoTuanViet
{quote} I have read the .xlsx file you uploaded. But it's really hard to understand them. 1. The first is the angles: 45 - 90 - 45, currently excel is understanding the angle in radians, whether this is the unit you want. 2. Regarding an isosceles triangle with angles 45 - 90 - 45, there is no need to calculate the other side because the two sides of the triangle are equal. 3. Why is the hypotenuse of the isosceles triangle multiplied by 1.4. Is this number the square root of 2? 4. How is "True price" and "True time" different. 5. The calculation...
It's not hard to understand just take the 3 parts and analyse....here they are: 1. Find hypotenuse using the swing measurements (days should be converted into hours) 2. Add the squares of the hypotenuse from part 1 and square root the sum that is to mean square root (a^2+a^2) when a is the hypotenuse from part 1...and part 3 , is finding how much of time and price you would have used to find the resultant hypotenuse from part 2 using trigonometry...

Now to answer your questions:

1. The angles are in degree...if in radians convert to degrees
2. Yes two sides are equal but not equal to the hypotenuse...look at part 2.
3. I have to check that but if you are to get one of the sides and multiply with the square root of 2 (equal to 1.414 if I'm not mistaken) you will get the hypotenuse yes..
4. Look at the screenshot attached
5. The difference is the hypotenuse is being found twice, and we are not using scale but converting the days to hours and lastly we are converting from hypotenuse to price and time...

NOTE

I HAD TO MAINTAIN THE PERFECT SQUARE BUT I COULDN'T SO UNLESS I USED THE HYPOTENUSE FROM THE FIRST TRIANGLE TO FIND THE HYPOTENUSE IF THE TRIANGLE WAS HALF OF A PERFECT SQUARE ( 45 AND 90 DEGREE ANGLE)
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  • #2,571
  • Aug 31, 2020 1:01pm Aug 31, 2020 1:01pm
Quoting Rubernet
{quote} ...Price Extension Tool...
An update and new stuff that may be useful in general:

Quadrilateral
- draws a quadrilateral (movable 4 sided shape)
- multi instance
v1.1
- fixed a btn bug
- option for hollow quadrilateral, so no color filling
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Wave_Lines_ABCDEF
- draws 5 movable connected lines
- point labels, optional text, intended as waves (with start point A), BCDEF, or 5 generic waves
- optional measurement labels in no. candles and pips per wave
- multi instances
- btn to make on click, but not needed for multiple waves
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Price_Extension_AB_on_C_12-levels
- draws 3 movable wave lines, AB, BC, CD
- draws fib extension from C, based on AB size
- 12 levels available, can be anything you want
- option to show negative levels
- option to show candle/pip distances of wave lines
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  • #2,572
  • Aug 31, 2020 2:44pm Aug 31, 2020 2:44pm
Quoting EmmK
Once a swing is measured in both time (in hours) and price it's reduced to the hypotenuse using Pythagore theorem, and after....I consider the PTV (hypotenuse) as a side of a perfect square having 45 degrees and 45 degrees and 90 degrees angles in it...then find as it where the PTV (other 2 sides using trigonometry) and after, the last part is...getting the PTV for the true hypotenuse and using cos and sin rule (trigonometry) into time and price (note)...note I change the price into time by dividing by 24 hrs as well as time (it was a mistake I...
Hypothenuse and PTV
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  • #2,573
  • Aug 31, 2020 3:02pm Aug 31, 2020 3:02pm
Quoting jeanlouie
{quote} An update and new stuff that may be useful in general: Quadrilateral - draws a quadrilateral (movable 4 sided shape) - multi instance v1.1 - fixed a btn bug - option for hollow quadrilateral, so no color filling {image}{file} Wave_Lines_ABCDEF - draws 5 movable connected lines - point labels, optional text, intended as waves (with start point A), BCDEF, or 5 generic waves - optional measurement labels in no. candles and pips per wave - multi instances - btn to make on click, but not needed for multiple waves {image}{file} Price_Extension_AB_on_C_12-levels...
Your work is gradually taking us closer to the promise land
  • #2,574
  • Aug 31, 2020 3:10pm Aug 31, 2020 3:10pm
Squaring Time & Price to balance both ( to reach the Equilibrium Level)

Hypothenuses
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  • #2,575
  • Aug 31, 2020 3:16pm Aug 31, 2020 3:16pm
Quoting EmmK
{quote} It's not hard to understand just take the 3 parts and analyse....here they are: 1. Find hypotenuse using the swing measurements (days should be converted into hours) 2. Add the squares of the hypotenuse from part 1 and square root the sum that is to mean square root (a^2+a^2) when a is the hypotenuse from part 1...and part 3 , is finding how much of time and price you would have used to find the resultant hypotenuse from part 2 using trigonometry... Now to answer your questions: 1. The angles are in degree...if in radians convert to degrees...
I just have to soak myself in the materials you gave. All this while, I have been able to calculate and fathom the expect future reversal day, but wouldn't know if the coming trend will be a bear or a bull or a minor pull back for continuation. So far, I still have to go a bit further to see the marker unfold the way I expected it to. Thanks
  • #2,576
  • Aug 31, 2020 10:22pm Aug 31, 2020 10:22pm
Quoting jeanlouie
{quote} An update and new stuff that may be useful in general: Quadrilateral - draws a quadrilateral (movable 4 sided shape) - multi instance v1.1 - fixed a btn bug - option for hollow quadrilateral, so no color filling {image}{file} Wave_Lines_ABCDEF - draws 5 movable connected lines - point labels, optional text, intended as waves (with start point A), BCDEF, or 5 generic waves - optional measurement labels in no. candles and pips per wave - multi instances - btn to make on click, but not needed for multiple waves {image}{file} Price_Extension_AB_on_C_12-levels...
Hi Jean

We appreciate your continues support, you are a absolute star.
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  • #2,577
  • Sep 1, 2020 5:40am Sep 1, 2020 5:40am
gann seemingly concurring with bradley
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  • #2,578
  • Edited 11:50am Sep 1, 2020 11:37am | Edited 11:50am
Once again quadrilateral rules...catching these to the penny....hats off to u jeanlouie
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  • #2,579
  • Sep 2, 2020 12:03am Sep 2, 2020 12:03am
Quoting Destoma
{quote} I just have to soak myself in the materials you gave. All this while, I have been able to calculate and fathom the expect future reversal day, but wouldn't know if the coming trend will be a bear or a bull or a minor pull back for continuation. So far, I still have to go a bit further to see the marker unfold the way I expected it to. Thanks
Yeah I get you..I too have that challenge of knowing the direction but I have come to use what happened in the past as my indication so if it was a bear market in the past it will be a bear market now
  • #2,580
  • Sep 2, 2020 9:19am Sep 2, 2020 9:19am
Quoting EmmK
{quote} Hey guys, as promised here is the calculation for the buy tomorrow (daily trade)... I have removed much of the unnecessary angles, not applicable to this method, I left in the excel sheet...I have attached the spreadsheet. Its a calculation for tomorrows trade so it is as current as current can be. I have noted the up swing on the screenshot which i hope you can calculate and confirm Wednesday 2 September 2020 beginning of the down swing. Here is the tradingview analysis: https://www.tradingview.com/x/7id6HKcf/ TO TAKE IT FURTHER,...
Current movement...GBPUSD
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