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  • #2,521
  • Edited 4:38pm Aug 19, 2020 4:10pm | Edited 4:38pm
Quoting DiamondMiner
{quote} Thakkx, well done.... of all the perverted versions and misguided attempts submitted lately of the Beck's Emblem and the proper application of the Quadrilateral, yours looks good, Bravo..... You have my respect. I'm still trading Coin, it's a been a Bull Market with some pullbacks, I buy the bottoms and sell the tops, going in one direction only. Currently even the shit coin can make you wealthy. I'm still +25K for the month, so it can happen to you too. God Bless America. Good Luck DM
Mean a lot for me when it comes from you and as you know very well i am just getting onboard on this journey. Hopefully direction from you all over here in the thread and doing the hard work at my end, will be successful one day. Thanks again...

BTW GBPUSD have zoom through 61.8 and 78.6 retracement and in ideal world not too far from SL below X point if trade enter on touch of fib. Saying that in our world you won't take the trade even after the Gartley pattern is completed as there is no signal bar (High of the low bar) on H1 or even on M15.

Saying of Coin, similar setup with Gartley TCG 786 on 38 angle and also JSA vertical time line signalling for change in trend probably. Retracement is also about same measure move as last retracement on completion of gartley pattern.

Finally I wish your words come true and this is the difference between pro and amateur. Pro think it is easy trading, while amateur jump in and price moves the other way So still lot to learn and enjoying the journey so far

P.S : For some reason while having emblem on the BTC, Dyad is missing. May be a bug? I did zoom out but dyad doesnt come up. (fyi- jeanlouie)

GBPJPY similar setup on Angle 52...
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  • #2,522
  • Aug 19, 2020 6:49pm Aug 19, 2020 6:49pm
Quoting SilentFather
I made this, something like Parisboy is using. It looks like it repaint, but it does not. Actually the calculation is not on the price itself. Works lovely. Possible buy today was +49.6 pips. Was not home so I can't trade it, sadly custom indi not possible on phone. Wonder if this will be reality someday... meh.. SF {image}
What is it called and if it does not calculate based on price, it calculates based on what?
  • #2,523
  • Aug 20, 2020 7:51am Aug 20, 2020 7:51am
Quoting Thakkx
Experimenting with Gartley and measure move theory. CADJPY H1, Gartley 618 on Angle 38 and Square Root from first bullish impulse. Will see how it turns out tomorrow, if we get the signal on 1H to enter on high of low bar. Retracement bit stretch compare to the first impulse, so will be interesting to see how it pan out. {image}
Following up on CADJPY1, added Wolfe wave and though the pattern completed and now out of the circle it is not going anywhere near to the projection.

Another one on NZDUSDH4 look good on Gartley TCG 382 on Angle 38 and JSA Angle 1/3 + 50% Support and triple bottom. I have taken B as further down to keep the whole action within Quad and not sure if that is the right approach though. USD generally is bearish and NZD haven't taken much of the benefit for some reason since beginning of the August unlike EUR and GBP.
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  • #2,524
  • Aug 20, 2020 5:32pm Aug 20, 2020 5:32pm
Quoting Thakkx
{quote} Following up on CADJPY1, added Wolfe wave and though the pattern completed and now out of the circle it is not going anywhere near to the projection. Another one on NZDUSDH4 look good on Gartley TCG 382 on Angle 38 and JSA Angle 1/3 + 50% Support and triple bottom. I have taken B as further down to keep the whole action within Quad and not sure if that is the right approach though. USD generally is bearish and NZD haven't taken much of the benefit for some reason since beginning of the August unlike EUR and GBP. {image} {image}
NZDUSDH4 seems to have reacted but lets see how it pan out tomorrow as NZD is weak currency of all at the moment.
This chart on GBPNZD M15 is bit crowded with annotation but few thought process wanted to share briefly anti-clockwise.

  1. First due to the scaling issue, i am treating the vertical timeline as a vertical zone to monitor for any change in signal, which are vertical green rectangle on the chart price action. I am going to experiment few solution mentioned already about scaling, so will come back to it at some point to get feedback on which one we should be using.
  2. Second price do tend to react at the JRNL or square root, so they are like my horizontal zone to monitor for price action around that area. These are blue horizontal rectangle
  3. Third is my Angle through Fib 25 and 75 of JSA, which in this case price are respecting at quite a few places, so again diagonal zone to monitor for price action.
  4. Fourth is i am keeping note of the momentum loss on average at the JNRL (above or below) so that it helps me to place my stop loss and also to understand when resistance or support is broken.
  5. Finally Retracement measure move for length of the retracement to put TP on counter trend. Can be done same for the TP in tren but in this case i was looking for counter trend after AD was 200%, so didn't had on my chart

Sorry i am spamming recently but i am learning everyday so wanted to share and see if anyone comment if i am doing something wrong and have mis interpreted incorrectly.

Also GBPNZD look prime candidate for the Nodal pivot analysis (foldback or mirror image) based on square the range, so would be nice to see if anyone attempt to shed some light on how this one will be pan out over longer time with some prediction

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  • #2,525
  • Edited 9:46am Aug 21, 2020 8:21am | Edited 9:46am
Quoting Thakkx
{quote} Mean a lot for me when it comes from you and as you know very well i am just getting onboard on this journey. Hopefully direction from you all over here in the thread and doing the hard work at my end, will be successful one day. Thanks again... BTW GBPUSD have zoom through 61.8 and 78.6 retracement and in ideal world not too far from SL below X point if trade enter on touch of fib. Saying that in our world you won't take the trade even after the Gartley pattern is completed as there is no signal bar (High of the low bar) on H1 or even on...
Wondering will this Gartley pattern 786 still be valid if I have change the C Point from what it was before, while action still remain in the Quad? @DM
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  • #2,526
  • Aug 21, 2020 9:48am Aug 21, 2020 9:48am
I wonder if a math guy could make an indicator from the cubic formula?

http://www.sacredscience.com/ferrera/ganncube.htm <<< too complicated for mere mortals lol

cubic formula to potentially make an indicator from =
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Just a crazy thought. It may not even make any sense lol
  • #2,527
  • Aug 21, 2020 11:14am Aug 21, 2020 11:14am
Quoting Thakkx
{quote} Wondering will this Gartley pattern 786 still be valid if I have change the C Point from what it was before, while action still remain in the Quad? @DM {image}
Hi Thakkx, Don't wonder if you got your setup intact, just go a little higher time frame and check the level. The bulls might be back next week, the daily chart shows a typical level reached, unless a close below the daily level today then will change bias.
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  • #2,528
  • Aug 21, 2020 3:34pm Aug 21, 2020 3:34pm
Quoting usmanumar082
{quote} Hi Thakkx, Don't wonder if you got your setup intact, just go a little higher time frame and check the level. The bulls might be back next week, the daily chart shows a typical level reached, unless a close below the daily level today then will change bias. {image} {image}
In this chat you applied everything.
  • #2,529
  • Edited 3:56am Aug 22, 2020 1:12am | Edited 3:56am
Quoting EmmK
{quote} What is it called and if it does not calculate based on price, it calculates based on what?
It works on indicator based on price. But there is volatility and movements. So movements on that indicator are not same as price that makes it more accurate. Sounds weird? Maybe. But works. Mostly... Price is mostly in the bands, not outside.

Trying to explain more in the picture. Hope it helps. It still in works, so... But I'm using it with angles and so on. This way you will get much more accurate entries.

Added on more example. The touch of the price by the indicator must happen on same place in time where MA is. That's all.
SF
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  • #2,530
  • Aug 22, 2020 12:28pm Aug 22, 2020 12:28pm
I think there will be a good chance next week.
Now see where the prices will go
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  • #2,531
  • Edited 9:54am Aug 23, 2020 8:17am | Edited 9:54am
I did mentioned will update on the various Scale method and will really like opinion from the senior member what their take is on each of the method and is there any other better way of scaling.

Scale Method 1 - Swede already document in post 2366 . Also shown here on youtube by hwsteele

Scale Method 2 - Scale by aligning the Quad on Tetrad, which is shown here on youtube It actually is shown indirectly to align the Quad on Tetrad for having all action within the Tetrad, so i just pick that up as scaling the chart. I might be wrong though.

Scale Method 3 - Based on Pattern, Price & Time by James Hyerczyk and also mentioned here by EmmK and Destoma on post 2421 and post 2386. Basically you add 806 pips for all the USD Pair with 968 hr on x Axis except for USDJPY, where it needs to add 503.36 pips with 484 hr on x axis or 1006.72 pips if 968 hr on x axis (depending on zoom level)

Scale Method 4 - Scale based on 1x1 Box and Actual 45 Degree angle, method mentioned here by hwsteele.


I am not sure which one we should be actually using as I have limited knowledge on how it all works. Also curious to know how Optuma use the scale, it still have to come up with one scale, right?


Coming back to EURUSD1Hr Gartley patter, its coming in to the strong support zone and seems 100% retracement for Gartley completion.
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  • #2,532
  • Aug 23, 2020 11:50am Aug 23, 2020 11:50am
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  • #2,533
  • Aug 25, 2020 9:13am Aug 25, 2020 9:13am
Lets see how this plays out.

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  • #2,534
  • Edited Aug 26, 2020 9:36am Aug 25, 2020 2:19pm | Edited Aug 26, 2020 9:36am
Quoting Rubernet
Lets see how this plays out. {image}
Im on this also....but I have adjusted quad to reflect the 4th point...so im waiting for a 45 or 52 degree test....guess we will see overnight...

edit...one day later, notice how the diad kept price contained, in fact bounce 50 pips atm....will hold this one for a good short entry if we get one in the 45 52 area
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  • #2,535
  • Aug 25, 2020 3:29pm Aug 25, 2020 3:29pm
Quoting Swede
{quote} Im on this also....but I have adjusted quad to reflect the 4th point...so im waiting for a 45 or 52 degree test....guess we will see overnight... {image}
Comparing your chat with that of Rubernet with same EURUSD pair, yours seams to be more acurate. Did you scale your chat? Its looks more aligned with the 90 degree vector
  • #2,536
  • Aug 25, 2020 3:30pm Aug 25, 2020 3:30pm
Quoting Thakkx
{quote} Following up on CADJPY1, added Wolfe wave and though the pattern completed and now out of the circle it is not going anywhere near to the projection. Another one on NZDUSDH4 look good on Gartley TCG 382 on Angle 38 and JSA Angle 1/3 + 50% Support and triple bottom. I have taken B as further down to keep the whole action within Quad and not sure if that is the right approach though. USD generally is bearish and NZD haven't taken much of the benefit for some reason since beginning of the August unlike EUR and GBP. {image} {image}
Following up on CADJPYH1 and NZDUSDH4, both have started to move up. NZDUSDH4 is still lagging behind and NZD continue to be the weakest of all so no surprise there but at some point this week it should bounce back.
CADJPY have shoot up and out of the consolidation, so interesting to see if it hit the target by end of this week.

USDJPY Daily look interesting and seems to create Gartley TCG618 bearish. Will continue to monitor how that goes.
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  • #2,537
  • Aug 25, 2020 7:55pm Aug 25, 2020 7:55pm
Quoting Destoma
{quote} Comparing your chat with that of Rubernet with same EURUSD pair, yours seams to be more acurate. Did you scale your chat? Its looks more aligned with the 90 degree vector
Set the qudra first....that may mean moving the 3rd point forward if price dictates that it stays with the angle of movement....then you place the Emblem on your chat using the same point as the start of your quad. Only then squeeze your chart until the Emblem fits the line off assent....watch the video above (post 2532)and you will see what I mean...it’s basic to the Emblem working...
  • #2,538
  • Aug 26, 2020 3:24am Aug 26, 2020 3:24am
Quoting Swede
{quote} Set the qudra first....that may mean moving the 3rd point forward if price dictates that it stays with the angle of movement....then you place the Emblem on your chat using the same point as the start of your quad. Only then squeeze your chart until the Emblem fits the line off assent....watch the video above (post 2532)and you will see what I mean...it’s basic to the Emblem working...
Thanks Swede
  • #2,539
  • Aug 26, 2020 12:46pm Aug 26, 2020 12:46pm
Eventually NZDUSDH4 did moved up, so ideal to close position and planning to enter again on retracement wave 2. CADJPYH1 still progressing towards the target so will see if it does meet the target by end of this week.
EURNZDH4 look good and decided to enter, considering NZD is weakest of all the currency at the moment. One mistake i did in this trade is that I got excited and entered on completion of the pattern instead of waiting for the signal bar (bar closing above the high of the low bar). I think you learn from your mistake....
USDJPY is on the radar as mentioned yesterday and will update if it does complete the pattern but at the moment is moving away from completion of Gartley TCG618 bearish. But i think with Gartley patience is the key and will see if the probable scenario do turns out as expected.
I am still not quite confident with other Jenkins method, so it would be nice if someone have some example to share how they are using in their trading system if possible. Square root, JNRL and angle do provide good alternative to normal support and resistance, but would be good to see other methods mentioned by various leaders over the time or even how its been used in day trading on 15 min or 1hr chart on index or commodities or forex.
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  • #2,540
  • Aug 26, 2020 11:02pm Aug 26, 2020 11:02pm
we shall see how cable reacts
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