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  • #2,341
  • Jul 22, 2020 10:03am Jul 22, 2020 10:03am
But even though Beck uses the 38 and 52 predominantly, we can always place the old standby, the 45 degree for interesting perspective...notice how it caught the bottom of the London session.....a lot of this is about experimenting with angles different somewhat for every currency...but one thing is certain....start all analyses with a predominant impulse...the beginning of all analyses
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  • #2,342
  • Jul 22, 2020 11:32am Jul 22, 2020 11:32am
Quoting EmmK
GBPJPY forecast using michael secret angles method...and PTV {image}
hey can you please elaborate that for us to understand further how we came to those dates..
  • #2,343
  • Jul 22, 2020 12:25pm Jul 22, 2020 12:25pm
Quoting Thakkx
{quote} hey can you please elaborate that for us to understand further how we came to those dates..
was about to ask same....
  • #2,344
  • Jul 22, 2020 1:23pm Jul 22, 2020 1:23pm
Quoting Swede
Beck uses 2 dominant angles...the 38 and the 52.....I can see why... {image}
Now that really make sense about how to apply the Gaan theory in real live trading. Those Pivot were secondary indicator to Gaan but 38 does act as resistance from gaan perspective.

Playing with various Gaan zone on EURUSDH4
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  • #2,345
  • Jul 22, 2020 6:53pm Jul 22, 2020 6:53pm
Some thing that is extremely important is this: Many of you are posting tons of variables, many different charts, time periods, tons of angles, circles and so on, in an attempt to find what method works best. Nothing wrong with that but as someone who has traded for many years and one who has tried hundreds of methods and indicators and so on please allow me to make a suggestions that can turn it all around when considering Time and Price trading................Take 1 currency and analyze it as it moves forward.....one currency, one time frame trading from (like the 1 hour at the smallest) and watch it progress.

You will notice I pretty much stay with GBP for no other reason than I understand it....seldom do I get stopped, seldom is there lack of profit and as it moves forward I keep drawing. For example, go back and look at the last few post of the 1 hour chart.....started with a simple circle from the impulse wave, then the square that gave up 2 trades ( 90 degree test), then the 52 degree as target, then another short stopped, then the break of the Diad for the long, paying attention to the pivots and other resistance areas. Can you see the clarity of doing it this way.

Now here is another update from that original chart....the expected time things should turn...divide the diad and extend out the division by 50%....notice where price reversed.....its never right on exactly, but isn't it clear where turns will probably happen?

So, just some friendly thoughts.....
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  • #2,346
  • Jul 23, 2020 1:47am Jul 23, 2020 1:47am
Quoting maneverfix
{quote} was about to ask same....
Price time vectors (PTV) by Bradley are a simple way of finding the hypotenuse without converting time to price or price to time so that the units are the same befor finding the hypotenuse (Pythagore theorem)...in Michael's work there is an angle projection of a swing so as to find the price and time (time and date mean the same thing) using a 60 degree and 90 degree angle on both the ends of the swing...if the PTV is found from a swing then you can find that hypotenuse of that 90 and 60 degree angled triangle from Michael by using trigonometry..once that is done , you convert back to price and time using trigonometry and time is converted to trading days as in the earlier calculation it was converted to hours. And you count those days from the end of the swing to the next turn....if in the past a down swing gave a low the in the next projection it should give a low (simple rule of thumb or interpretation)


Here is another GBPUSD forecast...please go through those books...the information is already on the thread..
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  • #2,347
  • Edited 10:19am Jul 23, 2020 9:11am | Edited 10:19am
took some time from yesterday entry but still got over 40 pips on multiple small lots....anyway, point is once again the bounce off 45 Degree angle and previous resistance, now support...and if you keep a record going of where the reactions occure over and over, well you wind up with a roadmap....I agree with Emmk that a larger correction is in the making but for now just waiting for more evidence...
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  • #2,348
  • Jul 23, 2020 11:11am Jul 23, 2020 11:11am
So, now that the last circle has set some very nice areas to trade, it is time to add another to the latest impulse wave for future analyses.

What do we see?....1. A support level have been established 2.... the support level can be horizontal as is historical previous high 3...or it can take the form of the 90 degree in the new circle (just 3 hours ago), 4..or it can be said the 45 from the previous circle held twice so it is strong 5....price is at make or break right this instant...if it makes a clean break there may be more upside......if the next couple candles close below resistance, then a retrace may be good for 100 pips or more.....Lets face it, it has had a good fight upward...this could be a major turning point long or short.

In conclusion I would have to say to the skeptics....dont ever say "if one draws enough lines price is bound to hit one of them"....nonsense....look at this one chart....just one friggen chart and we have multiple areas to trade and all of them predetermined by analyses and shown on this forum and posted before the moves ever occurred.

Going to take a break for a few days now...heading up into the mountains for a bit or r and r....cu soon.
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  • #2,349
  • Edited 11:32am Jul 23, 2020 11:21am | Edited 11:32am
One can set a beautiful trading chart by paying attention to Weekly Pivots (thanks Davit), angles such as 45, 52, 38, 60, 90, using a diad to determine break out areas and expected turn areas (thanks DM), market structure (thanks Cryptosurf and parisboy), a few horizontal lines where price turned and so on. It does not need to watch the stars or the planets to have a great trading platform, nor does one need to have expensive charts to do it. Nor does your analyses have to be determined by looking back 20 years...(cheesh...perish the thought when your a day trader lol). Nor do you need Jenkins, Beck, Gann, Hurst, or Gartly, but we can study thieir application...that is what will make you a great trader.

Simplify, dont get tangled up with all the stuff that comes at us in these forums...simplicity is paramount...and so is stability...doing the same thing over and over until you get it right....that has to be a formula for great success.

Have a good week everyone....
  • #2,350
  • Jul 23, 2020 12:32pm Jul 23, 2020 12:32pm
First picture is 65° second one is 50°. Not made from price, but we should get 16 pips. Works like a charm actually. Interesting! Just having fun, nothing fancy about that yet. And third is 120°. Seems like every good reversal point ends with round number.
SF
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  • #2,351
  • Edited 12:59pm Jul 23, 2020 12:44pm | Edited 12:59pm
This is where real fun starts. It must be very easy to trade with this. It's simple angle and You can pin point literally every possible move.

I don't created those on price for purpose. Even the indicator stops on those TL's. Lovely!
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Ok I found something really cool. At least I think. When I do line from the indicator, price always reverse on angle ending with 5. This means angles like 105,115,125,135,145, and so on...

Using this on tick chart (we can see price reversing slowly, we can enter on that touch and go immediately the other way. This means zero DD and thus knowing if price will reverse or not. So You can stop the trade and wait for another angle. For example 105 does not work? Well the second possible turning point is 115.

That's what I like.
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  • #2,352
  • Jul 23, 2020 1:14pm Jul 23, 2020 1:14pm
On the road so posting off ipad..........there is the short 1.2745. Note 3 bar structure at resistance, the engulfing bar and all the other factors.......stop 20 pips. Just thought I would show this one last for the week. Lol
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  • #2,353
  • Jul 24, 2020 9:14am Jul 24, 2020 9:14am
Hello,kindly somebody help me here, i have tried to squeeze expand my charts but i still see a world of difference between my circles and swede's. Thanks in advance
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  • #2,354
  • Jul 24, 2020 11:15am Jul 24, 2020 11:15am
Quoting makenas
Hello,kindly somebody help me here, i have tried to squeeze expand my charts but i still see a world of difference between my circles and swede's. Thanks in advance {image} {image}
Makenas, that's why traders use professional software like Optuma, what you get for free comes with issues. I suggest you take a screenshot and do you workup on paper with a Ruler, Protractor, and Compass.. Gann did he didn't own a computer.
DM
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  • #2,355
  • Jul 24, 2020 11:48am Jul 24, 2020 11:48am
That is fair,though i have tried and always says that my country is not covered,so will do you suggested, Blessed weekend
  • #2,356
  • Jul 24, 2020 2:16pm Jul 24, 2020 2:16pm
Quoting makenas
That is fair,though i have tried and always says that my country is not covered,so will do you suggested, Blessed weekend

try "scale fix". perhaps that is useful to you
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  • #2,357
  • Jul 24, 2020 10:58pm Jul 24, 2020 10:58pm
Quoting makenas
Hello,kindly somebody help me here, i have tried to squeeze expand my charts but i still see a world of difference between my circles and swede's. Thanks in advance {image} {image}
Makenas, nice to see you again.....first thing is zoom your chart out one setting, I can see that without having my platform in front of me, second thing is I scale my chart a bit, but I am away from my office at the moment, returning Monday. I will give you some settings I use for cable. Other currencies have different settings and you will find a way to set them once you understand how.

I disagree with DM over the opinion that you need expensive charts like Optuma. ( like 12 grand for the top tier, and you still gave to know how to scale them). Mt4 has some limitations but there are ways to overcome. Will explain later....
  • #2,358
  • Jul 25, 2020 1:58am Jul 25, 2020 1:58am
Quoting Swede
{quote} Makenas, nice to see you again.....first thing is zoom your chart out one setting, I can see that without having my platform in front of me, second thing is I scale my chart a bit, but I am away from my office at the moment, returning Monday. I will give you some settings I use for cable. Other currencies have different settings and you will find a way to set them once you understand how. I disagree with DM over the opinion that you need expensive charts like Optuma. ( like 12 grand for the top tier, and you still gave to know how to scale...
I’ll also be waiting for the setting As I face similar issue.
Thanks in advance Swede
  • #2,359
  • Jul 25, 2020 10:00am Jul 25, 2020 10:00am
Hello everyone, hope everyone is well...

Thank you DM for the thread and everyone else for contributing to the thread. I have really learnt a lot. And the best that I can do to show my appreciation is share what I have learnt...

I HAVE ALWAYS REASONED THAT WHAT CAN BE DRAWN CAN BE REDUCED INTO MATHEMATICAL CALCULATIONS....

This has freed me from the need of scaled charts...

I'm still learning though...there is so much to learn...Bradley and Earik and Michael have put me on a very interesting path...

GBPUSD on Monday 27th of July at exactly 02:00 CAT time...it will BUY...

Here are my notes in pdf of one method I'm using...I hope it will be of help...

If anyone has the two books on market geometry 1 and 2 by Bradley and Il Trading Geometrico by davide catanossi....please send...
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  • #2,360
  • Jul 25, 2020 2:40pm Jul 25, 2020 2:40pm
Quoting EmmK
Hello everyone, hope everyone is well... Thank you DM for the thread and everyone else for contributing to the thread. I have really learnt a lot. And the best that I can do to show my appreciation is share what I have learnt... I HAVE ALWAYS REASONED THAT WHAT CAN BE DRAWN CAN BE REDUCED INTO MATHEMATICAL CALCULATIONS.... This has freed me from the need of scaled charts... I'm still learning though...there is so much to learn...Bradley and Earik and Michael have put me on a very interesting path... GBPUSD on Monday 27th of July at exactly 02:00...
Thanks for sharing this and is so accurate. The scale factor for other pair, is it just trial and error. I mean is there a process that we came to 20 for eurusd?
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