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  • #1
  • First Post: Jun 18, 2020 6:26am Jun 18, 2020 6:26am
i want to ask about the real volume data of asset like future eurusd or Intel stock
why there is different between the volume data in mt5 platform and the volume data which is coming from tradingview for example or td ameritrade
who has the real volume data between them
it should be the same for all of you because it is not like the Forex who has only tick volume
can any one please provide brokers who offer real volume data for stock or futures
i prefer mt5 but say what you know any way thank you for advance
and are cfd on stocks has real volume data like stocks market
which market of all markets has a unified real volume data (stocks-futures-metals-energy-etc name what you know)
i know for start that Forex market and cryptocurrency doesn't have real volume
thank you in advance please share any information
  • #2
  • Jun 18, 2020 8:19am Jun 18, 2020 8:19am
any information please
  • #3
  • Jun 18, 2020 9:03am Jun 18, 2020 9:03am
You have to pay for level 2 data so you will never get it in MT4. Plus, mt4 isnt set up back end for real volume.
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  • #4
  • Jun 18, 2020 9:05am Jun 18, 2020 9:05am
Also, CFD's are not real volume.

If you want real volume I( suggest trading futures with level 2 data. CME will cost you about $30 per month, which has all the currencies like 6E (EURUSD) and also fixed income, ES etc.

EUREX is 20E per month and thats for FDAX, Bunds, Bobl etc

Hope that helps
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  • #5
  • Jun 18, 2020 9:42am Jun 18, 2020 9:42am
OK thank you very much for your answer and your time
from what i understand from you is that all markets doesn't have any volume data except real stocks market and futures market .....that is what you meant if i am getting this correctly
i do not care if i am trading stocks or futures i care about real volume brokers only
can you tell me about meta trader 5 brokers are have real stocks not cfd stocks or broker with futures market
i have cone a lot of research and i couldn't tell the deference between them
and they are very expensive brokers
what is your advise to me what market is have more liquidity and available for trading all the day and the week and of course with cheaper commissions and spread
if you want to tell me the names in a private message if this violate the forum rules
thank you again
  • #6
  • Jun 18, 2020 9:50am Jun 18, 2020 9:50am
Volume s something you get with ampfutures for example.
No cfd broker offers real volume.

Forex has no reliable volume btw.
  • #7
  • Jun 18, 2020 10:07am Jun 18, 2020 10:07am
so futures are have more liquidity than stocks and bigger market volume
and it has unified real data volume
and has 24/5 day available like fx market
and it is more cheaper in trading than stocks
what about more brokers that are easy to deposit and withdraw and minimum deposit

i am with just2trade right now and trading futures
but i do not know does he offer real stocks or cfd stocks
and does he provide real volume because i compared the volume on the mt5 platform with tradingview for the eurfx futures chart and i found different in the numbers
  • #8
  • Jun 18, 2020 10:55am Jun 18, 2020 10:55am
Futures and Stocks use contract and share volume respectively. This is the actual volume.

CFDs and Forex use tick volume.

In all cases, volume equals activity.

Tick volume measures the change in price or tick per time period being observed. Study after study has shown tick volume to be around 90-95% similar to actual volume. Most traders that employ volume (tick or actual) will state that the thing that matters the most is how volume compares relatively. In other words, period x's volume (tick or actual) in isolation does not mean as much as period x's volume (tick or actual) compared to period x-1's volume (tick or actual). So no matter what type of volume one is looking at, the key is to look at it comparatively.

Liquidity refers to the structural barriers and the number of, or lack of, market participants. Liquid markets are easy to enter and exit because there is an abundance of traders to trade with (or against). Professionals typically only trade liquid markets because they take large positions and do not want to bid up or bid down the price against themselves in markets with little participation. This is why more professional traders trade the E-mini futures contract than the rough rice contract.
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  • #9
  • Jun 18, 2020 11:13am Jun 18, 2020 11:13am
Here is a screen shot of Cable

https://www.tradingview.com/x/WbSjTN0O/

Here is a screen shot of the futures market- 6B (delayed)

https://www.tradingview.com/x/uLc5HJtx/
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  • #10
  • Jun 18, 2020 11:25am Jun 18, 2020 11:25am
Quoting SFundamental
Here is a screen shot of Cable https://www.tradingview.com/x/WbSjTN0O/ Here is a screen shot of the futures market- 6B (delayed) https://www.tradingview.com/x/uLc5HJtx/
what is this mean and thank you
  • #11
  • Jun 18, 2020 11:27am Jun 18, 2020 11:27am
Quoting MhMd3eZZ
{quote} what is this mean and thank you
If you mean - what does this mean:

Cable = GBPUSD
6B = Pound futures (Pound Futures quoted on CME)
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  • #12
  • Edited 2:12pm Jun 18, 2020 2:02pm | Edited 2:12pm
Quoting MhMd3eZZ
so futures are have more liquidity than stocks and bigger market volume and it has unified real data volume and has 24/5 day available like fx market and it is more cheaper in trading than stocks what about more brokers that are easy to deposit and withdraw and minimum deposit i am with just2trade right now and trading futures but i do not know does he offer real stocks or cfd stocks and does he provide real volume because i compared the volume on the mt5 platform with tradingview for the eurfx futures chart and i found different in the numbers
FX Futures don't make even 10% of the FX market. The volume of FX future exchanges is pretty much useless
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  • #13
  • Edited 3:02pm Jun 18, 2020 2:17pm | Edited 3:02pm
I used to trade currency futures - the volume data in the London session is not that great really
The US session is better. Although in futures you do tend to get bigger spikes
The volume on the Canadian dollar (6C) is pretty good when the US session gets underway- I prefer it to USDCAD
Data wise - I prefer Rithmic for lots of reasons- but you can't get it on TV- so you need something like Bookmap or Sierra Charts
So its more fees and more expenses- at least with CFDs you avoid all that - and the tick volume its not that bad
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  • #14
  • Jun 19, 2020 4:08am Jun 19, 2020 4:08am
what is the deference between Forex futures and Forex market
thank you all
  • #15
  • Jun 19, 2020 4:52am Jun 19, 2020 4:52am
http://www.ampfutures.com/trading-in...pecifications/
You have to pay fees to trade - CME monthly fees, commissions, data feeds
My recommendation - forget about trading futures
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  • #16
  • Jun 19, 2020 6:10am Jun 19, 2020 6:10am
Quoting SFundamental
http://www.ampfutures.com/trading-in...pecifications/ You have to pay fees to trade - CME monthly fees, commissions, data feeds My recommendation - forget about trading futures
And I can strongly recomment the opposite.
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  • #17
  • Jun 19, 2020 6:29am Jun 19, 2020 6:29am
Quoting Sesamstrasse
{quote} And I can strongly recomment the opposite. Happy weekend.

Are you not going to explain why.
Bearing in mind this person does not know the difference between a futures contract and spot fx
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  • #18
  • Jun 19, 2020 6:39am Jun 19, 2020 6:39am
Quoting SFundamental
{quote} Are you not going to explain why. Bearing in mind this person does not know the difference between a futures contract and spot fx
yes thank you very much
lets say i open the eurusd Forex chart and it has tick volume on it
and i open futm6e eur future or what ever it is name and it has real volume data
so why we trade in Forex market if we missing a lot of information like the volume
at least it doesn't hide any thing so the traders can be more in control right
or every thing is the same and the data doesn't mean anything
thank you again for you patient
  • #19
  • Jun 19, 2020 7:45am Jun 19, 2020 7:45am
Quoting SFundamental
{quote} Are you not going to explain why. Bearing in mind this person does not know the difference between a futures contract and spot fx
The difference is simple.
Markets get driven by orders letīs say money.


For futures we can see the orderbook, on a central exchange, what isn t possible for Spot FX.


The first information we get in FX is the price, in my charts printed as a candle-- some likes lines etc.
Broker tick isn t reliable,because there is no centralized exchange/orderbook..

But what drove this price?? That is the information I am intrested.


-- trade well and ...

Guido
Risiko birgt immer auch die Chance.
  • #20
  • Jun 19, 2020 7:56am Jun 19, 2020 7:56am
Quoting Sesamstrasse
{quote} The difference is simple. Markets get driven by orders letīs say money. For futures we can see the orderbook, on a central exchange, what isn t possible for Spot FX. The first information we get in FX is the price, in my charts printed as a candle-- some likes lines etc. Broker tick isn t reliable,because there is no centralized exchange/orderbook.. But what drove this price?? That is the information I am intrested. -- trade well and ... Guido
Staring at the chart looking at time & sales and the DOM is hard work.
So well done for trading that way....something I can't do
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