The Bucking Bronco

Me too.
I really don't have time to waste on a useless fight with you.
You are simply provocking me for whatever your reason.
Sir, I don't intend to answer back.
With all the due respect I invite you not to write here anymore.
You have a lot of admirers on your thread.
Please, go there where you certainly will have an audience.

Should I waste time with someone who boasts his own ignorance? Ridiculous.

Jesse Livermore: - “Wall Street never changes, because human beings never change.”

Sir, (yes I want to keep and mark the distance from you!)
You come here using a German Mafia tone (That “do your thing!” of yours exploded in my ears!)
You come here talking about things you don't know by your own admission.
You judge them with contempt, in this way despising me.
You come here and boast your successful life.
You praise your wealthy ignorance.
...and you call this "objective criticism"?
Do you think you impress me with your "millions"? You have chosen the wrong person.

There is nothing to discuss.

Clarification.
Obviously, behind the curtains of this fastidious public skirmish there are different ideas about trading.
DAX was in its powerful moving down.
All the Carpe Diem people were buying as mad (losing lot of money) in their splendid military mission of “Catching a falling knife”.
I went there trading with the trend, selling, and had the usual “confrontation”.
Amongst the others, I wrote this PM to deltaone.
I was only worried about the effects of all that on beginners and unprepared.
My tone has been always polite and correct.
This is objective criticism, OK?

As I have said a thousand times, I have read everything that has been printed on Gann, including his private courses!
I don't own, I haven't read even a word of Astro-bullishit.
I read everything that Livermore wrote and everything that was written about him, including the newspapers of the time.
My blotters are the direct result of their lessons and rules.
Everything was clearly written by them in black on white.
Just read the original writings (not the commentaries) ... but you must be able to read!
It is not a simple thing.

Last thing.
Yes. All depends by our personal beliefs system.
I have a great respect for suicide victims.
I always feel respect for their tormented souls.
Happiness is so elusive.
And, for sure, in the case of Jesse Livermore had nothing to do with wealth.
But it requires a good dose of humanity and compassion to try to understand.

Life and death of Livermore are the perfect metaphor of the reality of a Trader.
He was the greatest trader that has ever lived, in good and in bad.

Gann, with his differences, the greatest analyst and teacher! Read the Ticker Interview again.

It's an every man for himself kind of world this business but it doesn't have to be so cold and cruel. You never know if they're being nice to get something in return or if what they claim they can do is real after all. During my time on ff I've came across only a few who are genuine and you're on that shortlist keep doing what you do you're doing good for many visible or invisible.

I don't make a habit of posting in other peoples journals, but I would like to make a comment if I may, in great respect.

Jesse Livermore suffered from depression, and it those times there was not a lot known about depression, and less about how to treat it. Even today, in the 21st century, sadly many victims of this terrible illness take their own lives. I personally think that Jesse was a great man who proved his trading acumen time and time again, and he 'got back on the horse' whenever it kicked him off. But that aside, it is not fair or right and proper to mock any human who ends their life due to this terrible sickness, depression. We should be sad and we should be understanding and try to learn from them so that others may be saved. </rant>

Sorry Jupiter....I had to do it.

(Sorry for what? You are very welcome... this is your home!)
Perfect. That's my point.
To remain in our world of music I often think about two splendid singers and women: Dolores O'Riordan and Amy Winehouse.
But even my sons don't understand my sentiments!
Life sucks.

Every day we use aphorism and truism and concepts coming from Livermore and we don't even know it!
My preferred ones?
"The line of Least Resistance!"
"The irresistible Force!"... of a trend.

Alexander Elder and Larry Williams are the two guys who started this fight against Gann as a teacher!
What these two guys do for a living, nowadays? They write books and do seminars!

This is Larry Williams in person in one of his interviews:
"I give seminars, write books and have a videotape series for several reasons.
First of all it's quite profitable; I get paid for doing it.
I never know as a trader when I will make money,
it may be this month or maybe a few months from now it's an unknown.
Seminars and such amount to steady income.”

To the hell these ignorant liars. Open your ears, guys and girls. Open your minds.
Williams is the author of 11 books (and had some trouble with the justice!)
That has nothing to do with his fantastic records as a trader at the beginning of his carreer!
Let the things be well separated.
Personally, I am interested only in his performaces (and maybe I have understood something about them... LOL)

Gann fired his stupid son from his office! Try to imagine.
(Something happened for sure between the two...
The grandson of W.D. Gann states on a short article he wrote
that ” John L Gann then left to pursue his own interests in the Industry. The two differed in their approach to the market.”)

Again and for the last time... this is the cover sheet of Gann Newsletter.
What do you read on it?
Where is the astro-bullishit?
Use the machine you have between your ears! If any...
Do you see the words underlined? Yes?
I can't stand ignorance anymore.
If one is unable to read and understand this image how he could understand a chart?

Supply and Demand.
Scientific advise.
Scientific Service.
Analytic report.
Oh my God. Forgive them.
Read my post n°1 and Livermore's sentence!

But what I wonder is...
Is it so difficult to understand that my posting the number of viewers of my Journal
is my ironic way of emphasizing that in FF there is no interest in the things I say or do?
In fact, I always comment: "Poor Jupiter. Inscrutable, obscure, incomprehensible ... inexplicable to everyone."
I tried many times and I was always kicked out.
I have no vested interests...
I don't teach and I have nothing to teach. I propose a personal and individual path of study and sufference.
A path of knowledge and culture.
Very few are interested in it, the others prefer the normal, usual gambling and the assault to the market.
Retailers are slaughter animals for their nature with their greed, hope, regret and fear.
My blotters and charts are here: thanks for your money.

Do not attack the Pillars of my Journals. Learn how to learn.

Yep.....the more I learn, the more I learn that I have a lot more yet to learn!

My point? My reasoning started with my previous Journal: “Back to the Future”.
To be a successful trader, one needs to know the Rules, tools and techniques that have stood the test of time
understanding the robustness of the various methods of price evaluation.
That because Trading has a glorious History.
Trading is a serious profession and needs adequate preparation.

DAX Ger 30.
Applied Demonstration!
Trend is up!
But I'm milking the correction, knowing perfectly the correct levels through the Gann's lessons..!

If anyone thinks that the skirmish that just passed has troubled me, he is wrong.
It only strengthened my beliefs and my "aggressivity".