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  • #6,721
  • May 7, 2020 8:59pm May 7, 2020 8:59pm
TrendRider variations results for Thursday:

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MACD is struggling this week:
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HAS1(60,T,F,F,1,3,1,1,T) is doing OK so far this week:
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WaveRider also doing OK
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Ichimoku(240) + HAS1 is OK but not many extries, shall try Ichi(60) instead today
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  • #6,722
  • May 7, 2020 9:01pm May 7, 2020 9:01pm
Quoting lananpips
{quote} i have not heard of a system that does not have any losers. as long as our winners exceeds the losers, that's already an edge we can enjoy. is the SL placement adjustable? {quote} you have this as 'External TS2', but we can still use this with our current filters on v5 right? if yes, then we can do our own testing with it...and eventually, find the right combination that will suit our needs. just my opinion.
It is a fixed SL but you can always grab it and move it if you want.

This is an external TS2 that only works with the S9 Currency Trader and its BS1 or BS2 filters only as it takes the place of the TS.

This TS will only run on the H1 Chart as that is what I am designing it for, I know some will want to scalp it on the lower time frames but that will not work as it is tweaked for the H1.

My idea is to take fewer and better trades, You can always increase the lot size.
Too many trades makes the Broker richer with all the spreads and other costs he gets.
  • #6,723
  • May 7, 2020 9:45pm May 7, 2020 9:45pm
Quoting seller9
{quote} It is a fixed SL but you can always grab it and move it if you want. This is an external TS2 that only works with the S9 Currency Trader and its BS1 or BS2 filters only as it takes the place of the TS. This TS will only run on the H1 Chart as that is what I am designing it for, I know some will want to scalp it on the lower time frames but that will not work as it is tweaked for the H1. My idea is to take fewer and better trades, You can always increase the lot size. Too many trades makes the Broker richer with all the spreads and other...
Sounds good, thank you.
When the internal struggle ends, everything becomes easy - Mr. Douglas
  • #6,724
  • May 7, 2020 10:06pm May 7, 2020 10:06pm
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} I believe if price closes passed the 21ema then that would be a sensible exit as well.
i agree with this concept especially if the 'x' repaints.
When the internal struggle ends, everything becomes easy - Mr. Douglas
  • #6,725
  • Edited 5:46am May 8, 2020 4:36am | Edited 5:46am
[quote=seller9;12926328]

Hi Gene

Thank you for the update.

I think your SL placement around the ma cross point is really good.
I have seen this technique used before and is a good place to put it. Probability of the market easily going back to the cross level is low in general.

Regarding the "X" that repaints,.. im not a big fan of entry or exit indicators that repaint, so I hope this will not be a fixed exit feature but one we can select as "ON" or "Off" if we want to use it or not.

I would prefer to apply an exit strategy on individual pairs and not as a Basket EL. Im not completely convinced that Basket EL exits are better than individual exits in the long run. I still have to be convinced. I have a very strong belief that each trade should enter and exit in its own right. If you use a basket EL you prematurely cut opportunity and skew your strategy's closed out trade statistics which means you will never be able to do a proper strategy analysis, nor understand your strategies idiosyncrasies and behavior (your strategy's ave win, ave loss, win rate, expectancy, etc...), nor be able to apply proper money management techniques if you wanted to. Maybe im just an old fart and very set in my ways, but that is just my opinion.

Im very impressed with what I see so far. Thank you for your hard work Gene.

regards

H
  • #6,726
  • Edited 5:54am May 8, 2020 5:43am | Edited 5:54am
Seller9 I hope you don't mind me posting this, but to maybe help others search for info in this forum thread, if you add the thread number 677806 to any search you do it filters to only results from this thread.

It certainly makes it easier to find what you're looking for
  • #6,727
  • May 8, 2020 7:19am May 8, 2020 7:19am
There is also the 'search this thread' box which also does that

Blam

Quoting Aus-Trader
Seller9 I hope you don't mind me posting this, but to maybe help others search for info in this forum thread, if you add the thread number 677806 to any search you do it filters to only results from this thread. It certainly makes it easier to find what you're looking for
  • #6,728
  • May 8, 2020 7:28am May 8, 2020 7:28am
Quote
There is also the 'search this thread' box which also does that

Doh!! - Staring right at me... yet I never noticed it before. lol

Thanks Blam.
  • #6,729
  • Edited 8:48am May 8, 2020 8:28am | Edited 8:48am
I am getting some good test results today using the Swinger set up as follows:

TS - SW EN 5 2 34 F
BS1 - SW DIR 60 17 34 68 136
EXIT - SWINGER 60 2 136

I've set the C9 DB on the 5 minute chart

Please note on the DB snapshot below the US Non Farm Payroll NFP came out in the middle of this run which took the Draw down much lower than it actually was before and in past testing. It was around $22 otherwise (there were better results from running this earlier this morning but I lost the results off the Basket Equity graph by accidentally resetting it).

QUESTION - Things are running nicely as they should with trades opening nicely on the 5 min chart at SW34 signal and closing 2 bars after SW136 H1 in the opposite direction. Is it possible to have addon trades enter at every SW34 point on the M5? See attached image...
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  • #6,730
  • May 8, 2020 2:57pm May 8, 2020 2:57pm
Quoting HMuller1971
Quoting seller9
Hi Gene Thank you for the update. I think your SL placement around the ma cross point is really good. I have seen this technique used before and is a good place to put it. Probability of the market easily going back to the cross level is low in general. Regarding the "X" that repaints,.. im not a big fan of entry or exit indicators that repaint, so I hope this will not be a fixed exit feature but one we can select as "ON" or "Off" if we want to use it or not. I would prefer to apply an exit strategy on individual pairs and
...
Hi HM,

Catching them green pips is really the challenge we have here.

Here's a sample of same entry but different mode of exits:

on this one, i have TP on 0.6:
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while on this one, I let the opposite signal of the HAS as TP:
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We can already see the one with the TP is ahead, however, this was just one day and its FRiday so the one with opposite signal exit is at a disadvantage.

What i've been noticing, there is usually a retrace after i close my CT at end of US Wednesdays.
I will usually restart my CT at start of Asia and will see the red sea.

Since this has been happening, i'm planning to stop trading after end of US Wednesday and just continue start of Asia Fridays...so will skip the Thursdays.
just my observation...hope it does not confuse you so much LOL!

I will continue this exit tests next week.
When the internal struggle ends, everything becomes easy - Mr. Douglas
  • #6,731
  • May 8, 2020 6:17pm May 8, 2020 6:17pm
Happy Friday All. All in all profitable for the Trend Rider Exit Race this week, results below.

I did notice some discrepancies between how the pairs were opening and closing within the same setups, not sure if this was on my side due to not clearing the variables or if this was happening to others. Pairs that i noticed that were effected by not sending an entry trigger were NZDUSD and USDJPY, and pairs I noticed not closing via Trend Rider1 Exit were EURJPY, CHFJPY, and USDCHF, could be others those are just the ones i noticed throughout the week. Could be on my part for not clearing the global variables, going to clear them and restart for next week and watch.

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Examples of missed trades and exits using Trend Rider.

NZDUSD Entry missed in blue box. Hard to tell when the entry would have been due to difference between visual and actual but it went far beyond where other pairs are entering.
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CHFJPY Exit missed in green box. I noticed this happening with EURJPY CHFJPY and USDCHF. Again not sure if it is due to me not clearing my global settings, just want to see if it is happening to anyone else. So far other pairs are entering and exiting properly using Trend Rider entry and exit.

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  • #6,732
  • May 8, 2020 7:35pm May 8, 2020 7:35pm
Quoting alula
Happy Friday All. All in all profitable for the Trend Rider Exit Race this week, results below. I did notice some discrepancies between how the pairs were opening and closing within the same setups, not sure if this was on my side due to not clearing the variables or if this was happening to others. Pairs that i noticed that were effected by not sending an entry trigger were NZDUSD and USDJPY, and pairs I noticed not closing via Trend Rider1 Exit were EURJPY, CHFJPY, and USDCHF, could be others those are just the ones i noticed throughout the week....
1) Looks like the gray ma is below the 0.05 level on the signal candle, that value could be moved to the present open candle.
2) The trend is still down "RED" according to the ma which is part of the equation, maybe this should be changed to a generic ma without a direction to it, make it yellow for the exit only. Would not want to change it for entries though.
3) Remember these are all confirmed signals using only closed candles to stop false signals, if we make them too aggressive we could start getting more signals along with more false signals.

Let me know if you want these settings changed.
  • #6,733
  • May 8, 2020 9:41pm May 8, 2020 9:41pm
Friday's results were a bit sad for me, with no setup hitting Target, but it's always a risk trading NFP day.

Variations of TrendRider+TrendRider1Exit setups:

60/60 Failed on Friday, but produced a weekly Profit of about 700pips.
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240/240 No trades Friday, weekly profit was about 940pips.

240/60 No Trades Friday, weekly profit was about 700pips.

Other setups:

MACD+HM240 complete blowout this week -1800pips, needs a rethink on this setup:
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HAS1(60,T,F,F,1,3,1,1,T) was a Friday blowout despite more TP hits than SL hits.
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WaveRider failed Friday, but finished week with 170pips ahead
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Both Ichimoku setups failed Friday:
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  • #6,734
  • May 9, 2020 8:31am May 9, 2020 8:31am
Quoting seller9
{quote} 1) Looks like the gray ma is below the 0.05 level on the signal candle, that value could be moved to the present open candle. 2) The trend is still down "RED" according to the ma which is part of the equation, maybe this should be changed to a generic ma without a direction to it, make it yellow for the exit only. Would not want to change it for entries though. 3) Remember these are all confirmed signals using only closed candles to stop false signals, if we make them too aggressive we could start getting more signals along with more false...
Ahhh yes looking back at the trades I see your logic now.

Entry: The entry is getting a lot of very good trade entries, I don't want to mess that up, please do not edit this.

Exit: Line should be changed to general "yellow" As soon as price closes over the line the trade should close. The color change on this indicator lags, the TR entry method was designed to re-enter after a close if the price continued in the correct direction.

Ok, gotta go buy flowers, enjoy the weekend everyone.
  • #6,735
  • May 9, 2020 11:44am May 9, 2020 11:44am
Is it possible to backtest using the S9 CT Dashboard when markets are closed?
  • #6,736
  • May 9, 2020 12:33pm May 9, 2020 12:33pm
Quoting alula
{quote} Ahhh yes looking back at the trades I see your logic now. Entry: The entry is getting a lot of very good trade entries, I don't want to mess that up, please do not edit this. Exit: Line should be changed to general "yellow" As soon as price closes over the line the trade should close. The color change on this indicator lags, the TR entry method was designed to re-enter after a close if the price continued in the correct direction. Ok, gotta go buy flowers, enjoy the weekend everyone.
Ok, I will change the exit to disregard the color of the trend line.

Do you still want the entry to use the color change?

Changes will be in version 6 when it comes out.
  • #6,737
  • May 9, 2020 12:33pm May 9, 2020 12:33pm
Quoting Aus-Trader
Is it possible to backtest using the S9 CT Dashboard when markets are closed?
It's never possible to back test.
  • #6,738
  • May 9, 2020 2:42pm May 9, 2020 2:42pm
Quoting seller9
{quote} Ok, I will change the exit to disregard the color of the trend line. Do you still want the entry to use the color change? Changes will be in version 6 when it comes out.
I think for entry, yes keep the entry as you have it. This is different from my trading plan as I do not use the color change of the trend line in my entry, but the entry results for the last couple weeks of Trend Rider entries have been so good I do not want to change how you have it, we are already getting a lot of trades and i like the idea of your color change filter for entry.

For Exit, yes please disregard the color of the trend line. The trend line is slow and makes for a slow exit if color is used. The entry is designed to jump back into a trade if taken out by the close over the trend line.

That said I'm always looking for better exits, and or the ability to use multiple exit strategies.
  • #6,739
  • May 9, 2020 5:30pm May 9, 2020 5:30pm
Quoting alula
{quote} I think for entry, yes keep the entry as you have it. This is different from my trading plan as I do not use the color change of the trend line in my entry, but the entry results for the last couple weeks of Trend Rider entries have been so good I do not want to change how you have it, we are already getting a lot of trades and i like the idea of your color change filter for entry. For Exit, yes please disregard the color of the trend line. The trend line is slow and makes for a slow exit if color is used. The entry is designed to jump back...
I will be testing several different exits on the new TS2 this coming week, Entries and Risk are easy, it's the exits and Reward that need the work.

Ne sure to water your followers.
  • #6,740
  • May 10, 2020 7:50am May 10, 2020 7:50am
Anyone here using a VPS setup for the S9 CT DB and are happy with it? My broker is IC Markets in NY... I am 50/50 between homes (mine and my better half) spending 3-5 days at each... would like to have multiple terminals up to 6 running unhindered
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