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  •  TraderMarcos
  • Joined Nov 2016 | Status: Trading in the moment. | 107 Posts
Yes Oli, now we no longer need to stay in forums, forex group chats, some called experts and gurus and all those BS. They will try to tell you this and that. All I need is to be in front of my trading station. I dont need to watch those weekly trading analysis and some blah blah as if they really know what they are doin. I thank God that all I need to do is look at the charts. The fibo will tell me, the romar will tell me the ema the horsemen the sar the db the ma5 ma20 the bollinger, all of these will speak to you as if they are real and breathing and they will tell you where to trade and where the market is headin'. All I needed to do is look at the moment and the paradox will tell you and speak to you. I dont need the advice of some experts and what not. The paradox is all we need to reach our dreams and goals and to help people monetarily. Paradox traders are chosen by God for his own purpose and perfect will for his own glory. The Paradox was the greatest gift I had ever received in my whole life. I know a lot of people will try the paradox and will not get it if God will not let them see it. Only if God will open their spiritual eyes then they can trade the paradox successfully. Like how Jesus died for all of us to save us and he rose again after 3 days but not everyone believes in him. Not everyone wants Jesus in their lives. The Salvation and eternal life is free but not everyone wants it. Its the same with the paradox, it is posted publicly and free but not everyone will believes in it.
To reach that level of determination is a matter of the will.
 
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  •  maas
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{quote} Very simple. When white crossed purple they become both support and resistance. Let say you have Romar EMA as resistance then white crossed purple, now you have Romar EMA Psar resistance and white purple as support? Now we are in consolidation. And its true that it doesnt eliminate the trend because you have Your major chart trend which is ROMAR and your secondary chart trend which is EMA. Now all you need is study from page 1 or you will never make it to one of the 5 percenters.
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Thank you for your reply. I started again from page 1 & remain confused:

#2486 [Dove] That is correct and it is on any of the charts. Once White crosses Purple on any of the three charts you are AUTOMATICALLY in consolidation and you can trade both ways.

#10125 [Dove] White crossing Purple does not eliminates the TREND nor puts the market in consolidation. All it does is eliminate the power of the Parabolic in consolidation. The only thing that eliminates the Trend is the H2 Parabolic flip. It is then you are in consolidation and you can trade both ways.

It seems to me that 10125 contradicts 2486, but it may be that only the founder of the thread can elucidate.

ATB
Maas
 
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  •  OliveBranch
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Maas, may i try to show you with a visual? This is the current chart on close of Friday/week. Ignore the MA5-20 as I re-opened charts this morning.

Arrow 1 = WxP = Consolidation, according to #2486 - Yes/No?

Arrow 2 = Parabolic Flip = Consolidation, according to #10125 - Yes/No?

Arrow 3 = WxP = Consolidation, according to #2486 - Yes/No?

Would you agree that all arrows shown fit the descriptions posted in both #2486 & #10125 in regards to what Consolidation is within the Paradox - Yes/No?

Please just answer each question with a Yes or No, without any extra words, or explanation or interpretation.
4 questions with 4 answers with a choice of only.... a Yes or No.
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{quote} Thank you for your reply. I started again from page 1 & remain confused: #2486 [Dove] That is correct and it is on any of the charts. Once White crosses Purple on any of the three charts you are AUTOMATICALLY in consolidation and you can trade both ways. #10125 [Dove] White crossing Purple does not eliminates the TREND nor puts the market in consolidation. All it does is eliminate the power of the Parabolic in consolidation. The only thing that eliminates the Trend is the H2 Parabolic flip. It is then you are in consolidation and you can...
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My understanding is that #2486 is superseded by #10125
 
 
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{quote}My understanding is that #2486 is superseded by #10125
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Thank you for taking the time to respond. I suspect that you are are correct & that the initial descriptions have been refined by the OP as the thread has developed.

Many thanks,

Maas
 
 
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Maas, may i try to show you with a visual? This is the current chart on close of Friday/week. Ignore the MA5-20 as I re-opened charts this morning. Arrow 1 = WxP = Consolidation, according to #2486 - Yes/No? Arrow 2 = Parabolic Flip = Consolidation, according to #10125 - Yes/No? Arrow 3 = WxP = Consolidation, according to #2486 - Yes/No? Would you agree that all arrows shown fit the descriptions posted in both #2486 & #10125 in regards to what Consolidation is within the Paradox - Yes/No? Please just answer each question with a Yes or No, without...
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Hi OliveBranch,

Many, many thanks for time & trouble in this matter, I hope I'm worth the effort!

Q 1 Yes
Q 2 No
Q 3 Yes
Q 4 No

ATB,
John G
 
 
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{quote} Hi OliveBranch, Many, many thanks for time & trouble in this matter, I hope I'm worth the effort! Q 1 Yes Q 2 No Q 3 Yes Q 4 No ATB, John G
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ok John. My next question is:

In regards to Q2; does post #2486 apply?
In regards to Q4; does post #2486 apply?
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{quote} ok John. My next question is: In regards to Q2; does post #2486 apply? In regards to Q4; does post #2486 apply?
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Thank you for your continuing interest & help.

Q 2 No

Q 4 Yes

ATB,
John G
 
 
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{quote} Thank you for your continuing interest & help. Q 2 No Q 4 Yes ATB, John G
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ok John. In regards to Q2. Which way are the 4 Horsemen facing?
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{quote} ok John. In regards to Q2. Which way are the 4 Horsemen facing?
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Thank you again OB: Up.

ATB,
Maas
 
 
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{quote} Thank you again OB: Up. ATB, Maas
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Q2 Arrow 2 = Parabolic Flip = Consolidation, according to #10125 - Yes/No?

So in relation to Q2, Seeing as you're saying that the horsemen are up on the screenshot that we are talking about, and you can see that the Horsemen are never stationary because they each have a job to do for each new bar; they MUST have crossed somewhere, at some point... starting at the White crossing of Purple,
Yes/No?

Which indicators are the Horsemen?
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{quote} Q2 Arrow 2 = Parabolic Flip = Consolidation, according to #10125 - Yes/No? So in relation to Q2, Seeing as you're saying that the horsemen are up on the screenshot that we are talking about, and you can see that the Horsemen are never stationary because they each have a job to do for each new bar; they MUST have crossed somewhere, at some point... starting at the White crossing of Purple, Yes/No?

Yes - three bars earlier before arrow 2.

Which indicators are the Horsemen?
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Purple, smooth, white & PSAR.

Thank you,
Maas
 
 
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{quote} Yes - three bars earlier before arrow 2. Purple, smooth, white & PSAR. Thank you, Maas
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ok - Now, if that is the case, then....."In regards to Q2; does post #2486 apply?" you had answered with "No" in your #16748.

I do not understand your observations -

What makes you say that #2486 is not be valid for arrow 2 ...when you have just contradicted yourself in saying that White had actually crossed Purple 3 bars earlier than arrow 2?
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{quote} ok - Now, if that is the case, then....."In regards to Q2; does post #2486 apply?" you had answered with "No" in your #16748.

I answered no because I referenced the arrowed bar & the cross came three bars earlier. However, on giving further thought to the matter, if one takes 2486 literally the market would always be in consolidation because W x P has always occurred at some time in the past. You seem to have nudged me in the right direction: I am most grateful.

I do not understand your observations - What makes you say that #2486...
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I was simply referring to the fact that W x P did not occur at arrow 2.

Many, many thanks for generous assistance, if I can get the last few brain cells firing up I might make progress.

ATB,
John G
 
 
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{quote} I was simply referring to the fact that W x P did not occur at arrow 2.
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Fine.... The cross did not actually occur "at" the arrow. Yet;
My earlier question remember was...In regards to Q2; does post #2486 apply?
So why have you said at Arrow 2, post 2486 does not apply to the actual moment bar?

I was simply referring to the fact that W x P did not occur at arrow 2......This is what I am hearing coming my way..... My extrapolation of your explanation is (& I may be wrong but this is what I am hearing):-
Within your Plan for that day, you may ignore the White crossing Purple showing us that there is Consolidation, but the Consolidation is only apparent and only at at the White cross Purple. And all because... as you say... the crossing did not happen "at" THAT particular bar where I had placed arrow two - meaning to you; that there is absolutely no Consolidation happening anymore on the chart ....and by extension, that would also mean that post 2486 is irrelevant and/or wrong?
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  •  shinny
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Hello everyone

I hope you are all keeping safe in these extraordinary times and trading and learning is going well for you.

Remember that constant learning is very important and normal when trading this system - you will always learn new things both about the system and yourself.

Good luck.

Shaun
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Hello everyone I hope you are all keeping safe in these extraordinary times and trading and learning is going well for you. Remember that constant learning is very important and normal when trading this system - you will always learn new things both about the system and yourself. Good luck. Shaun
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Good to see the familiar face of a master.
Hope you are well also.
Thank you for the words of wisdom.
 
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Hello everyone I hope you are all keeping safe in these extraordinary times and trading and learning is going well for you. Remember that constant learning is very important and normal when trading this system - you will always learn new things both about the system and yourself. Good luck. Shaun
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The Master Trader Shaun. Glad to see you my friend.
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  • May 8, 2020 7:13am May 8, 2020 7:13am
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{quote} Fine.... The cross did not actually occur "at" the arrow. Yet; My earlier question remember was...In regards to Q2; does post #2486 apply? So why have you said at Arrow 2, post 2486 does not apply to the actual moment bar? I was simply referring to the fact that W x P did not occur at arrow 2......This is what I am hearing coming my way..... My extrapolation of your explanation is (& I may be wrong but this is what I am hearing):- Within your Plan for that day, you may ignore the White crossing Purple showing us that there...
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Firstly, thank you once again for your time & trouble.

Well, may I refer you to mine #16742:

"#2486 [Dove] That is correct and it is on any of the charts. Once White crosses Purple on any of the three charts you are AUTOMATICALLY in consolidation and you can trade both ways.

#10125 [Dove] White crossing Purple does not eliminates the TREND nor puts the market in consolidation. All it does is eliminate the power of the Parabolic in consolidation. The only thing that eliminates the Trend is the H2 Parabolic flip. It is then you are in consolidation and you can trade both ways.

It seems to me that 10125 contradicts 2486, but it may be that only the founder of the thread can elucidate"

The reason for 16742 was that 2486 & 10125 are at odds & it may be that one is correct & the other wrong or both are false. My current view, further to your generous guidance, is that 2486 is wrong.

ATB,
Maas
 
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  •  OliveBranch
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{quote} Firstly, thank you once again for your time & trouble. Well, may I refer you to mine #16742: "#2486 [Dove] That is correct and it is on any of the charts. Once White crosses Purple on any of the three charts you are AUTOMATICALLY in consolidation and you can trade both ways. #10125 [Dove] White crossing Purple does not eliminates the TREND nor puts the market in consolidation. All it does is eliminate the power of the Parabolic in consolidation. The only thing that eliminates the Trend is the H2 Parabolic flip. It is then you are in consolidation...
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Thank you for your reply. I understand where you're sitting now.
So let's progress a little further.
How do we get a parabolic flip? ie: what happens first?
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