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  • #361
  • Apr 1, 2020 8:55am Apr 1, 2020 8:55am
Quoting Barraka
{quote} Why are you sharing this screenshot? Looked at the trades and it has nothing to do with the method described here, so what's your point?
Some did others did not, he shared with other system thread too, maybe he's into profit porn
  • #362
  • Apr 1, 2020 8:59am Apr 1, 2020 8:59am
Quoting Barraka
{quote} I have also made an EA today, been testing it on EG and EA, with slightly different rules: I use a 1:1 TP /SL, based on volatility (ATR). Reason is, depending on where the candle closes, the SL at bottom of box (for a long trade) makes the R:R really skewed, sometimes risking 1 to gain 0.35 for example. I set the open order function only at the open of the candle, like the initial rules (so not a pending order like you suggested). Also, another filter I added is a limit of 4 hours before a trade is triggered. It just makes more sense to...
I haven't had good long term testing with my setup yet. If you read my post again, you'll see that I have two methods, one is based on the candle open the other is pending orders.

I believe SwingMan added a filter to his indicator, from observation it could be Ichimoku based, Could anyone confirm?
  • #363
  • Apr 1, 2020 9:04am Apr 1, 2020 9:04am
Quoting jado911
{quote} Some did others did not, he shared with other system thread too, maybe he's into profit porn
Yeah never mind, I checked his profile and he just spammed this screenshot randomly on different threads. He got insta-removed from Davit's thread with the exact copy-paste message. And those types of posts are completely useless, they bring nothing to the discussion, especially when the entries - exits have nothing to do with the thread.
  • #364
  • Apr 1, 2020 9:07am Apr 1, 2020 9:07am
Quoting Shaishen
{quote} Hi pedrobhs - about cTrader, I also have one pepperstone acct running on ctrader - I checked the ctrader community and although there is a large amount of indicators I could not find a box style indi. If you don't mind would you share the code for your ctrader box indi? However, just to make sure, I totally understand if you want to keep it private and I will respect your decision. Thank you.
Hi Shaishen, of course I will post here I just need to finish some polishing and workaround for cTrader to get it functional to trade with, probably tomorrow Ill have a working version to publish here stay tuned


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  • #365
  • Apr 1, 2020 9:14am Apr 1, 2020 9:14am
Quoting jado911
{quote} I haven't had good long term testing with my setup yet. If you read my post again, you'll see that I have two methods, one is based on the candle open the other is pending orders. I believe SwingMan added a filter to his indicator, from observation it could be Ichimoku based, Could anyone confirm?
Yes I know, that's why I specified that I only used the initial entry rules, unlike you. Although I thought about using pending orders at some point, but for now just stuck with the original rules, at least for that.

Would you mind sharing your results for, say, 2018 like I did, just to compare & discuss, and maybe build on different experiences? Also if the results aren't "good", it's especially important to share so that other people can have an idea of the outcome of the system.

Just a suggestion as I like sharing ideas and experimenting, especially when a system isn't working.
  • #366
  • Apr 1, 2020 9:32am Apr 1, 2020 9:32am
Quoting jado911
...I believe SwingMan added a filter to his indicator, from observation it could be Ichimoku based, Could anyone confirm?
I have here https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...1#post12829371
briefly mentioned that after the first enthusiasm it would be good to have a directional filter, because the market energies do not move brownian, but according to patterns we do not know.

- The position of daily open opposite the pivot and the middle of the previous bar is very simple and powerful.
- One can then also take the presence of a smash bar (Close over previous bar).

These two filters favor long or short trades, and do not consider them to have the same winning chance.
  • #367
  • Apr 1, 2020 10:33am Apr 1, 2020 10:33am
Quoting SwingMan
{quote} I have here https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...1#post12829371 briefly mentioned that after the first enthusiasm it would be good to have a directional filter, because the market energies do not move brownian, but according to patterns we do not know. - The position of daily open opposite the pivot and the middle of the previous bar is very simple and powerful. - One can then also take the presence of a smash bar (Close over previous bar). These two filters favor long or short trades, and do not consider them...
Thank you SM! can you clarify a bit on the mid of previous bar; is it the day open posit of previous day Middle point?
Thanks,
  • #368
  • Apr 1, 2020 10:47am Apr 1, 2020 10:47am
Quoting jado911
... Thank you SM! can you clarify a bit on the mid of previous bar; is it the day open posit of previous day Middle point? Thanks,
For the current day, the pivot range consists of the distance between the calculated pivot of the previous bar and the middle of this bar. (Shift=1).
This zone acts as resistance or support for the price developments of a day, because the traders play their games during the day, then go to sleep etc.
Only the EAs have to work ...
  • #369
  • Apr 1, 2020 1:01pm Apr 1, 2020 1:01pm
Quoting SwingMan
{quote} For the current day, the pivot range consists of the distance between the calculated pivot of the previous bar and the middle of this bar. (Shift=1). This zone acts as resistance or support for the price developments of a day, because the traders play their games during the day, then go to sleep etc. Only the EAs have to work ...
Hello SwingMan
I want to use this indicator V5.1 in two different time zones on one screen is it possible?
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  • #370
  • Apr 1, 2020 2:09pm Apr 1, 2020 2:09pm
Quoting Gokay
...Hello SwingMan I want to use this indicator V5.1 in two different time zones on one screen is it possible?
I don't know exactly what you need, but you can load the indicator twice.

Be careful to change the colors and be sure to change the parameter below "all objects drwan ... = LB2-" to "LB5-" e.g.
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  • #371
  • Apr 1, 2020 2:17pm Apr 1, 2020 2:17pm
Quoting Thejoetrader
{quote} Hi @jdva, With your own expierence with TOTB, have you made a statistic of the pairs that have achieved the most times the TP? thx
Sorry...you have unsubscribed from this thread. Why are you still interested?
I never lose - either I win or I learn...
  • #372
  • Apr 1, 2020 2:29pm Apr 1, 2020 2:29pm
Quoting jdva
{quote} Sorry...you have unsubscribed from this thread. Why are you still interested?
Hi jdva,

I have unsubscribed because I receive too many notifications on the phone, but i review the thread often.

I ask you because i'm testing the TOTB strategy, and i wanted to have an empirical statistic.
  • #373
  • Apr 1, 2020 2:34pm Apr 1, 2020 2:34pm
Quoting jado911
So I have made an EA for this system, its still not ready for any kind of live trading. I'm attaching it here for the group to test out and hopefully provide feed back to improve. The time should range should be calculated automatically, let me know if its now There are 2 main methods to open trades, Placing pending ordered at the top and bottom of the box As soon price reaches the high or low it will open that position and delete the opposite position TP is set at 1x box range SL, will be triggered if bar opens beyond the opposite Limit There is...
Hi jado911,

I have tested the ea, and the hours of the box don't coincide with the correct time in my broker.

Can you make that the hours of the box, can be set manually?
  • #374
  • Apr 1, 2020 4:54pm Apr 1, 2020 4:54pm
Quoting Emma7788-FAN
{quote}Thanks
Hi Emma,

I've reviewed your rules & posts, but I have a few questions as there are some contradictions. I've taken your screenshots and amended them with questions, if you could take the time to go over them that would be great:

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Thanks,
  • #375
  • Apr 1, 2020 5:13pm Apr 1, 2020 5:13pm
Quoting SwingMan
{quote} I don't know exactly what you need, but you can load the indicator twice. Be careful to change the colors and be sure to change the parameter below "all objects drwan ... = LB2-" to "LB5-" e.g. {image}
Yes it worked thank you so much . I want to compare london and newyork sessions.
  • #376
  • Apr 1, 2020 5:17pm Apr 1, 2020 5:17pm
Quoting Gokay
...I want to compare london and newyork sessions.
Nice idea!
  • #377
  • Apr 2, 2020 1:51am Apr 2, 2020 1:51am
Trading outside the Box requires lots of Patience and experience. Its not easy to think out of box it obviously require passion and interest to trade as a trader.
  • #378
  • Apr 2, 2020 7:49am Apr 2, 2020 7:49am
Quoting Thejoetrader
{quote} Hi jdva, I have unsubscribed because I receive too many notifications on the phone, but i review the thread often. I ask you because i'm testing the TOTB strategy, and i wanted to have an empirical statistic.
OK, got it...so far I have only the statistic for this week:

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I never lose - either I win or I learn...
  • #379
  • Apr 2, 2020 10:04am Apr 2, 2020 10:04am
Quoting jdva
{quote} OK, got it...so far I have only the statistic for this week: {image}
Hi @jdva,

Thx for share your table. I saved the image, to study it in the coming days.
  • #380
  • Apr 2, 2020 11:03am Apr 2, 2020 11:03am
Quoting jdva
{quote} OK, got it...so far I have only the statistic for this week: {image}
nice overview you Got there
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