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  • #56,981
  • Mar 21, 2020 6:21am Mar 21, 2020 6:21am
I am thinking something like this. USA and China are in a trade war. China is living from export, 100%. Now export from China is in total stop, China`s economy goes back to stone age in few months. USA is King of the World again. And experts comes out and say, corona is not so dangerous than we thought. Happy end.
  • #56,982
  • Mar 21, 2020 6:27am Mar 21, 2020 6:27am
also I have to add, China is something that you never know, if this is what I am thinking and all is about games between 2 SuperPowers, China could start World War 3, I am pretty sure they could do that, if they do not see another solution
  • #56,983
  • Mar 21, 2020 6:50am Mar 21, 2020 6:50am
Quoting juhanimi
{quote} average age 79.5 and all had other diseases too, saw that somewhere
dont be bullshitted. The virus may cause permanent health issues in the young too. Such as lung scarring. Which can cause other organ strain like a heart attack. Lung scarring can take away a younger person's quality of life. Shortness of breath on a short walk etc permanent.
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  • #56,984
  • Mar 21, 2020 6:57am Mar 21, 2020 6:57am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} dont be bullshitted. The virus may cause permanent health issues in the young too. Such as lung scarring. Which can cause other organ strain like a heart attack. Lung scarring can take away a younger person's quality of life. Shortness of breath on a short walk etc permanent.
how are you ?
everything fine so far ?
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  • #56,985
  • Mar 21, 2020 7:03am Mar 21, 2020 7:03am
8.Deaths under the age of 50 yearsTo date (March the 20th), 36 of 3200 (1.1%) COVID-19 positive patients under the age of 50 have died. In particular, 9 of these were younger than 40 years, 8 men and 1 woman (age range between 31 and 39 years). For 2 patients under the age of 40 years, no clinical information is available; the remaining 7 had serious pre-existing pathologies (cardiovascular, renal, psychiatric pathologies, diabetes, obesity).

https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronav..._marzo_eng.pdf
  • #56,986
  • Edited 7:24am Mar 21, 2020 7:13am | Edited 7:24am
Quoting juhanimi
also I have to add, China is something that you never know, if this is what I am thinking and all is about games between 2 SuperPowers, China could start World War 3, I am pretty sure they could do that, if they do not see another solution
Solution? This may be ony round 1 with corona. It may mutate and give us a newer stronger version. In this case world war 3 may be 2 guys wearing a hazmat suit. Fist fighting in street. If it conspiracy you want. Let's say nature got tired of man's (global warming) bullshit. And decided to take it back. It won't be the first time it has happened.

Maybe some animal ate another ancient infected dead animal. That was frozen in ancient ice. Eventually that virus came in contact with man. With the ability to mutate and transfer to other men. A virus is no different than man. A virus is constantly trying to survive. A virus is constantly evolving on a much faster timeline. Millions of times faster than man. Eventually the virus will mutate to the right formula. Man has to act fast. Spending 60 days doing nothing. Calling it a hoax, instead of action has left the U.S. wide open for this. Even yesterday our moron leader was saying. The governors of the state's had to obtain their own ventilators. It wasn't the job of his office. He threatened to use a war act to require a U.S. company to make them. Yet he couldn't name 1 company he told to do so.

The intelligence services warned DT corona in January. And just like before 911, the information was ignored.

The U.S. pandemic experts team did a mock pandemic. The report states the u.s. needs close to 1 million ventilators stockpiled. We dont have 200k. And those experts were fired in 2018. When asked about the firing. He plays dumbed and turned to Pence and others. With no answer to the question. On another occasion he had admitted it, to save money on people just standing around doing nothing. Incompetence has cost trillions. With more to come, and more life loss.
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  • #56,987
  • Mar 21, 2020 7:20am Mar 21, 2020 7:20am
Yes, it is difficult to know what to believe, because there is information war too. And when western media is drumming same message... it must be true...or not


https://www.military.com/daily-news/...mic-wuhan.html

anyways, I do read both sides, I am neutral.
  • #56,988
  • Mar 21, 2020 7:33am Mar 21, 2020 7:33am
Quoting juhanimi
8.Deaths under the age of 50 yearsTo date (March the 20th), 36 of 3200 (1.1%) COVID-19 positive patients under the age of 50 have died. In particular, 9 of these were younger than 40 years, 8 men and 1 woman (age range between 31 and 39 years). For 2 patients under the age of 40 years, no clinical information is available; the remaining 7 had serious pre-existing pathologies (cardiovascular, renal, psychiatric pathologies, diabetes, obesity). https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronav..._marzo_eng.pdf
what about the 9 year old who bleed to death in a car accident. The paramedics had no hospital to take him to. Or the one with peritonitis who didnt get the operation. Because there's no beds or docs available. In the U.S. they are stopping cancer treatments etc. Young people are dying.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #56,989
  • Mar 21, 2020 7:35am Mar 21, 2020 7:35am
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000469040061

Good podcast on China's response (or lack there of) on the COVID virus.
  • #56,990
  • Edited 7:46am Mar 21, 2020 7:35am | Edited 7:46am
Quoting juhanimi
Yes, it is difficult to know what to believe, because there is information war too. And when western media is drumming same message... it must be true...or not I do read both sides, I am neutral.
You can read both sides, but this isn't the place for conspiracy or excuses. So either remove the bs or I will. You people really cant be stupid enough to believe China released this on their own people. Or the Bill Gates paid for it. The Alex Jones nuts are in the wrong place here.
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  • #56,991
  • Mar 21, 2020 7:40am Mar 21, 2020 7:40am
Edward Snowden - it is all about money and power
I think he is true Patriot
anyways, do what you want
  • #56,992
  • Mar 21, 2020 7:41am Mar 21, 2020 7:41am
Quoting juhanimi
Edward Snowden - it is all about money and power I think he is true Patriot anyways, do what you want
done.
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  • #56,993
  • Mar 21, 2020 7:44am Mar 21, 2020 7:44am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} You can read both sides, but this isn't the place for conspiracy or excuses. So either remove the bs or I will. You people reall cnt be stupid enough to believe Chia released this on their own people. Or the Bill Gates paid for it. The Alex Jones nuts are in the wrong place here.
this has to be one of your best reply ever
and you do have hundreds of them to compete with

if you didn't exist, we had to invent you ....or someone did (as a conspiracy theory" of course.
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  • #56,994
  • Mar 21, 2020 7:49am Mar 21, 2020 7:49am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} done.

i hope people realize how much value you have brought here over the years on both financial information, economics and all related to trading and investment. And also a lot of life things and education.

I for one I am extremely grateful for your contribution on this thread. And all the time you have invested.
Stay safe. Corona doesn't stand a chance with you
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  • #56,995
  • Mar 21, 2020 8:02am Mar 21, 2020 8:02am
Quoting DMA Trader
{quote} this has to be one of your best reply ever and you do have hundreds of them to compete with if you didn't exist, we had to invent you ....or someone did (as a conspiracy theory" of course.
I read some of the crap for entertainment. But I watch the news conferences live. So before any news source picks and chooses the soundbites. I already heard them in contest.

I laugh 5 minutes later, when someone will come back. And say "he meant this" to change it. Then a few days later he will say the same thing again on Twitter. LOL. He has made an ass out of anyone trying to clean up something he said. And those trying to clean it up, has made an ass out of people believing them.

So let's just say for stupidity's sake. China killed their own people. And destroyed their economy on purpose. That still dont change the fact corona missiles were headed for the U.S. And our leader did nothing. And is still not doing his job. 2 weeks ago was calling this a hoax. When clearly other member of congress knew better (proven in selling stock etc. Private meetings with donors talking about the upcoming danger of corona.) While painting a rosy picture about corona to the public. Explain this one to me, without laughing or crying.
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  • #56,996
  • Mar 21, 2020 8:11am Mar 21, 2020 8:11am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} I read some of the crap for entertainment. But I watch the news conferences live. So before any news source picks and chooses the soundbites. I already heard them in contest. I laugh 5 minutes later, when someone will come back. And say "he meant this" to change it. Then a few days later he will say the same thing again on Twitter. LOL. He has made an ass out of anyone trying to clean up something he said. And those trying to clean it up, has made an ass out of people believing them. So let's just say for stupidity's sake. China killed their...
I won't disagree with the failings but trump is not alone on this. Boris only picked up the ball Tuesday this week too. Boris knew the risks (told old people to stay locked up) and said old people dying was an acceptable loss based on his 'science advisors' then U turned days later. Appreciated, I know it's trumps job to know but these are clearly not easy economical decisions. The firs thing that popped up was a total loss of security for the general public/looting. It's real and unless army called in London will be on fire again if this money doesn't come fast.

Just to be clear, Boris has made unbelievable promises to the people that will see a 5 + % rise on tax for a decade, how that aid gets to the people though...let's see. He has planted a seed/problem for the future but what can be done, he was in a damned if do or damned if don't position.
  • #56,997
  • Mar 21, 2020 8:44am Mar 21, 2020 8:44am
Quoting beszle
{quote} I won't disagree with the failings but trump is not alone on this. Boris only picked up the ball Tuesday this week too. Boris knew the risks (told old people to stay locked up) and said old people dying was an acceptable loss based on his 'science advisors' then U turned days later. Appreciated, I know it's trumps job to know but these are clearly not easy economical decisions. The firs thing that popped up was a total loss of security for the general public/looting. It's real and unless army called in London will be...
This may be true today, but in early January it wasn't. The lack of action and telling the truth has made today's reality. You or they cant have it both ways. They took a calculated risk and lost. The bet was treasure over life. Life lost, and the consequences will cost treasure 1000X greater. This was the moron's bet. A bet they lost. Most people like to know the truth.

They didnt even hedge their bet, by preparing for the virus. At least the excuses would make sense then.
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  • #56,998
  • Mar 21, 2020 8:47am Mar 21, 2020 8:47am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} Anything like corona, is not on my past charts. At least up until the last few months. Nobody knows what will happen. Our charts are mostly useless as a guide. I dont have a clue mostly. I do know in 2008 that the usd was viewed as a safe haven. I take that view myself, until proven wrong. So I will play it like I did in 2008 after July. I will sell eu toward a stronger usd. I will ride the momentum direction, until it changes. I had a 0.8xx target on eu 12 years ago. Maybe this is the time. A systemic shock. The world and all prices need...
Oh My God, Please don't
Chaos will be happening then, Creepy
  • #56,999
  • Mar 21, 2020 8:49am Mar 21, 2020 8:49am
EU executive moves to formalize suspension of EU budget rules

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The European Union executive moved to formalize an agreement reached by EU finance ministers on March 5 to suspend EU budget rules that put limits on borrowing so that governments have a free hand in fighting the coronavirus.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-he...-idUKKBN2180DR
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  • #57,000
  • Mar 21, 2020 8:53am Mar 21, 2020 8:53am
Quoting DMA Trader
EU executive moves to formalize suspension of EU budget rules BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The European Union executive moved to formalize an agreement reached by EU finance ministers on March 5 to suspend EU budget rules that put limits on borrowing so that governments have a free hand in fighting the coronavirus. https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-he...-idUKKBN2180DR
QE in the ez will follow..
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