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  • #1,241
  • Mar 6, 2020 7:29am Mar 6, 2020 7:29am
Quoting NotAtrader
{quote} Because they are a crap. Sorry but as a matter of fact that’s what they are. No professional company will handle a situation like this one the way they do. In fact no professional company will get into this kind of shit in the first place.
while i cant totally disagree with the statement,
the truth is, that every broker/company/bank has issues, stay long enough, you will encounter them.

(at other company, not important here which) missed copying 3 trades between my master to slave ( both live accounts), the discrepancy caused is about 2000$...
72 hours and half a dozen emails later, not solved the issue.

another example:
last week a friend of mine was transferring money to a broker...it turn out that by mistake, the transfer was not from local currency but USD....the amount being not 33k USD but 10 million on the online slip.
the bank claims the transfer was sent, insist on that, but cant come up with the proper slip.
the broker never got the money of course, not 10 million USD as the slip show anyway.
what next? the local bank has a 30 biz day timeline to "investigate"...money in the meantime has no use.

yet another example:
i had a broker a while back mistakenly filling GJ orders 200 pips over the market price. took 2 orders and before realized what is going on was magin called.
they reset my equity, but it is nervewracking to think what-if that time.

and another example:
well known favorite broker offers a free VPS. place trade copier there, with multiple accounts. find that 3 made good trade, 1 had some with 5-second delay, and lose on same trades. yep, the largest of course! and yes, they were all accounts on same live server, and same VPS.
my internet was blamed, the time about 700Mbps fibre with 4ms latency. never mind the other accounts not delayed.
declined the 50$ compensation cos wouldnt cover half the loss. and stopped to use their VPS.


what i wanted to say,
while of course it is uncomfortable, it can happen that a company experience issues, and legitly be busy.
it seems that FTMO tries, offered for ppl cancelling losing trades, resetting account, so not like without taking up responsibility for their fault.
not less than others do in such situation.
that doesnt make them automatically untrusted, really.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #1,242
  • Mar 6, 2020 10:45am Mar 6, 2020 10:45am
Quoting fbex124
{quote} If u can passed from enfoid why not try ftmo 70% profit sharing, better than enfoid.
TBH I feel more secured with Enfoid.
  • #1,243
  • Mar 6, 2020 10:48am Mar 6, 2020 10:48am
Quoting cogs
Nice work RubelByrne! {quote} Enfoid pays interest on deposits. Earn % weekly. Enfoid has constant online support, even live chat with a human. Enfoid has support, ftmo has very fragmented support if at all. Enfoid has a live discord community, chat share. Enfoids platforms work Enfoid uses IC Enfoid trade live, ftmo doesn't. In other words they are what the offer. So many reasons, 20% extra is not worth the difference if it is not a professional operation. Just my experience.
Yes Cogs. that's right. Those are reasons I joined Enfoid. It also allow in office trading. We can trade 300k to 700k account in their office with basic salary and comission.
  • #1,244
  • Mar 6, 2020 12:59pm Mar 6, 2020 12:59pm
Quoting RubelByrne
{quote} Yes Cogs. that's right. Those are reasons I joined Enfoid. It also allow in office trading. We can trade 300k to 700k account in their office with basic salary and comission.
Dose they have a thred in FF?
  • #1,245
  • Mar 6, 2020 1:54pm Mar 6, 2020 1:54pm
Quoting RubelByrne
{quote} TBH I feel more secured with Enfoid.
This is a thread for FTMO.
Advertising a competitor...tad naughty.
Why not start an Enfoid thread, if you haven't done so already.
Am already looking forward to it.
  • #1,246
  • Mar 6, 2020 1:55pm Mar 6, 2020 1:55pm
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} while i cant totally disagree with the statement, the truth is, that every broker/company/bank has issues, stay long enough, you will encounter them. (at other company, not important here which) missed copying 3 trades between my master to slave ( both live accounts), the discrepancy caused is about 2000$... 72 hours and half a dozen emails later, not solved the issue. another example: last week a friend of mine was transferring money to a broker...it turn out that by mistake, the transfer was not from local currency but USD....the amount...

Wise words as always from Zoltan.
  • #1,247
  • Edited 4:07pm Mar 6, 2020 3:44pm | Edited 4:07pm
@profitfarmer & @moodybot

The harder you defend FTMO, the fishier smells of it because people are not blind for the facts. How dare you even?!
Both of you are such obvious paid dogs who are spreading this stinky shit around and scamming people in such a brutal way.

I believe that you do read everything in this thread where people complain for not getting response and for not being able to operate their accounts properly exposed to a real danger of losing their money, yet you defend the people who run a company that smells scam and fraud. How is that even possible? How dare you?

Show respect to the people who experience such inconvenience with FTMO and understand that FTMO is the one who advertise themselves as the best prop company something they are absolutely not and FTMO is the one doing the wrong thing, not the other way around.

Show respect and stop supporting a company who does not care about their clients.
No username yet? You are on my ignore list. Fuck off and do not quote me!
  • #1,248
  • Mar 6, 2020 4:09pm Mar 6, 2020 4:09pm
Quoting NotAtrader
@profitfarmer & @moodybot The harder you defend FTMO, the fishier smells of it because people are not blind for the facts. How dare you even?! Both of you are such obvious paid dogs who are spreading this stinky shit around and scamming people in such a brutal way. I believe that you do read everything in this thread where people complain for not getting response and for not being able to operate their accounts properly exposed on real danger of losing their money, yet you defend the people who run a company that smells scam and fraud. How is that...

For f<cks sake, I have nothing to do with FTMO and I can guarantee Zoltan doesn't either.

Why don't you re-read my post, and when you understand it, come back here and explain your reply to me.
Personally I would like to read a thread that the OP originally started, not some other advertising from elsewhere, and where did I mention anything about not supporting the notion that FTMO may not be wholly legit.

Zoltan posted a perfectly understandable, easy to digest reason as to why FTMO may be struggling at the moment, which I agree with.
If you don't like FTMO go fail with another prop firm. Zoltan knows a couple, ask him, he's a prop trader. Yes, there are some real one's out there.

Take your paid dog analogy and go piss up some one else's lamp post.
  • #1,249
  • Mar 6, 2020 4:29pm Mar 6, 2020 4:29pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote} For f<cks sake, I have nothing to do with FTMO and I can guarantee Zoltan doesn't either. Why don't you re-read my post, and when you understand it, come back here and explain your reply to me. Personally I would like to read a thread that the OP originally started, not some other advertising from elsewhere, and where did I mention anything about not supporting the notion that FTMO may not be wholly legit. Zoltan posted a perfectly understandable, easy to digest reason as to why FTMO may be struggling at the moment, which I agree with. If...
Do you even know what it takes to start and run this kind of company in both technological and financial aspect? Does it look to you like the people in FTMO have the knowledge to do that? It doesn’t look like that to me.

If you know what kind of challenges you are about to meet, you should know how to solve them and be prepared for that, especially when you work with customers and your bread depends on your clients (provided you are not a scammer).

The technical problems FTMO has did not occur under normal operation like the cases you describe. FTMO’s problems started because they replaced a working environment and exchange it with something that wasn’t probably even tested if it suits the characteristics and the requirements specifications of their business. If they did do an extensive test on the new environment and make sure everything works and create a plan in case of emergency, then these problems wouldn’t exist for them now. Is this a professional approach? No it isn’t, thus your examples and attempts to defend them stink unless you are paid to defend them.

This is my point. And of course problems can occur everywhere, but these are not random problems under normal and regular operation. These are problems because of amateur approach and poor decision making.
No username yet? You are on my ignore list. Fuck off and do not quote me!
  • #1,250
  • Mar 6, 2020 4:45pm Mar 6, 2020 4:45pm
Quoting NotAtrader
{quote} Do you even know what it takes to start and run this kind of company in both technological and financial aspect? Does it look to you like the people in FTMO have the knowledge to do that? It doesn’t look like that to me. If you know what kind of challenges you are about to meet, you should know how to solve them and be prepared for that, especially when you work with customers and your bread depends on your clients (provided you are not a scammer). The technical problems FTMO has did not occur under normal operation like the cases you describe....

Your reply hasn't remotely addressed your response to my my original post regarding advertising on a competitors thread.
I just asked the dude to advertise elsewhere or start a new thread where that particular concern can be given the same consideration.
Too many threads get polluted with garbage.

I ask you again, where did I support FTMO in post 1245?
  • #1,251
  • Mar 6, 2020 7:03pm Mar 6, 2020 7:03pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote} This is a thread for FTMO. Advertising a competitor...tad naughty. Why not start an Enfoid thread, if you haven't done so already. Am already looking forward to it.
True dat. But I think ftmo had dropped the ball slightly so clients are looking for alternatives, after all it was a brief post.

I think Enfoid are acting well wise in staying well clear of the toxicity that develops with posts on FF, so will maybe will stay well clear.

Ok, back to ftmo, they up and running again yet? Lets see if they can learn from their mistakes and offer some good competition.
My comments are not to be taken as trading advice, not a financial advisor
  • #1,252
  • Edited 10:44pm Mar 6, 2020 7:08pm | Edited 10:44pm
Quoting NotAtrader
@profitfarmer & @moodybot The harder you defend FTMO, the fishier smells of it because people are not blind for the facts. How dare you even?! Both of you are such obvious paid dogs who are spreading this stinky shit around and scamming people in such a brutal way. I believe that you do read everything in this thread where people complain for not getting response and for not being able to operate their accounts properly exposed to a real danger of losing their money, yet you defend the people who run a company that smells scam and fraud. How is...
LoL,
Your name suit you Greta.
Most certainly not-a-trader.
" How dare you?"
" Paid dog and stinky shit"
"Scamming ppl in brutal way"

Demanding respect, where you give non.
Yes, my last post was for particularly for you, and 9therblittle cry babies feeling entitled yet has little to no base to make demands.
Little Greta, life is tough. When you step past thru your childhood, you will learn. Well maybe you won't.
You dishing out verbal abuse post after post on something you aren't using, and on ppl you have know idea who they are.
For your foul language alone you could be put on suspend, to chill a bit, but I won't make a martyr from you.
However, to not make a complete a.s.s. from yourself, I would suggest the very least look at some other less recent posts on this thread, and/or other threads, before you jump to conclusions that rapidly make a fool of yourself.
I dare you!
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #1,253
  • Edited 11:28pm Mar 6, 2020 11:17pm | Edited 11:28pm
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} LoL, Your name suit you Greta. Most certainly not-a-trader. " How dare you?" " Paid dog and stinky shit" "Scamming ppl in brutal way" Demanding respect, where you give non. Yes, my last post was for particularly for you, and 9therblittle cry babies feeling entitled yet has little to no base to make demands. Little Greta, life is tough. When you step past thru your childhood, you will learn. Well maybe you won't. You dishing out verbal abuse post after post on something you aren't using, and on ppl you have know idea who they are. For your...
I dud not abuse you in any way, while your language is provocative and edges with arrogance and aggressiveness. And by the way read the rules on the site and have it clear that you can be suspended and even revoked for being abusive, reaspecless and supporting fishy activity.

Your post smells arrogance and brings no clearance to the case. At the same time you mention my childhood and describe me as a fool person, while you don’t know me at all. I do not attack anyone personally. I am talking about a company that does not live up to the standard targeted by themselves, while you are attacking me personally. How smart is that?! When I criticize FTMO, I point to facts, while you abuse me and make a laughing of me without knowing anything about me. This tells everything about what kind of person you are. Step up your standard as a member or you will be in trouble for attacking forumites and for supporting suspicious activities.

Again your examples of other companies having technical troubles, make no sense as you describe completely different scenarios of daily random challenges under normal operation. Get that!
No username yet? You are on my ignore list. Fuck off and do not quote me!
  • #1,254
  • Mar 7, 2020 12:02am Mar 7, 2020 12:02am

  1. https://cdn-assets.faireconomy.media...ar494620_1.gif NotAtrader
  2. Joined Oct 2016 | Status: Not A Trader. A Money Machine. | 2,616 Posts |

@profitfarmer & @moodybot

The harder you defend FTMO, the fishier smells of it because people are not blind for the facts. How dare you even?!
Both of you are such obvious paid dogs who are spreading this stinky shit around and scamming people in such a brutal way.

......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Notatrader....do you see the highlighted text in red, ...good, now we're on the same page.

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And now I quote from your latest post 1254....'I dud not abuse you in any way, while your language is provocative and edges with arrogance and aggressiveness. And by the way read the rules on the site and have it clear that you can be suspended and even revoked for being abusive, reaspecless and supporting fishy activity.'

......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
Please, before you dig any deeper re-read Zoltan's post 1241, then my post 1245 then can you explain, where in those two posts you have the right to post the highlighted text in yellow, your post 1247

So just to be clear, you were rude first and obnoxious and just in case you missed that, I'll say it again, you were rude first and obnoxious.

And to be double clear, yes I know the rule regarding........ suspended and even revoked for being abusive, reaspecless and supporting fishy activity. ....

Its obvious that you don't.

  • #1,255
  • Mar 7, 2020 12:26am Mar 7, 2020 12:26am
Quoting moodybot
{image} NotAtrader Joined Oct 2016 | Status: Not A Trader. A Money Machine. | 2,616 Posts | @profitfarmer & @moodybot The harder you defend FTMO, the fishier smells of it because people are not blind for the facts. How dare you even?! Both of you are such obvious paid dogs who are spreading this stinky shit around and scamming people in such a brutal way. .........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
Absolutely pointless post. As I said you two do support each other and you like each other’s posts like a person with a double profile would do.
And by the way Zoltan from Thailand sounds very probable and it speaks about the low grade of honesty living in that person. Do you guys have something to hide? To me it sounds more like someone from the ex Yugoslavia still struggling to get rid of the mentality of being rude and arrogant.
No username yet? You are on my ignore list. Fuck off and do not quote me!
  • #1,256
  • Mar 7, 2020 12:32am Mar 7, 2020 12:32am
Quoting NotAtrader
{quote} I dud not abuse you in any way, while your language is provocative and edges with arrogance and aggressiveness. And by the way read the rules on the site and have it clear that you can be suspended and even revoked for being abusive, reaspecless and supporting fishy activity. Your post smells arrogance and brings no clearance to the case. At the same time you mention my childhood and describe me as a fool person, while you don’t know me at all. I do not attack anyone personally. I am talking about a company that does not live up to the standard...
man, or whatever you are,
get your act together!
you were the abusive one in your language, and keep being so, not only to me, but in general every single post on this thread.

you got to call FTMO fishy, suspicious, etc...
in the meantime what did really happen?
the facts:
1. they have some tech issues
2. they promptly accepted responsibility acknowledging it
3. they offered multiple solutions
4. the let everyone know they are working to solve the issue.

post#1241
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...2#post12795492
the post was about how this perfectly imperfect world just about every tech related company runs into issues.
that is sort of the normal.
how they are going on afterward makes the difference.
FTMO did so far the above points 1-4 i listed, and that is about as good a dealing with issues as it gets.

now, we can disagree what a decent business practice is in this case, but implying that makes me a paid dog and shit is somewhat beyond level headed communication.
that said, you feel attacked in your forumite state, there is a report button.
as for what is suspicious, yet to see someone forthcoming that paid for a challenge, and didnt get to do a challenge...so expect kind a being delivered what ppl are paying for. which level is that bordering an implied scam?
and btw, again, if you read back the this thread, i am not fond of this type of "prop trading" biz model.
however there is a difference between not preferring one model to another, or calling everything fishy just bcos not liking it.

Quoting NotAtrader
{quote} Absolutely pointless post. As I said you two do support each other and you like each other’s posts like a person with a double profile would do. And by the way Zoltan from Thailand sounds very probable and it speaks about the low grade of honesty living that person. Do you guys have something to hide? To me it sounds more like someone from the ex Yugoslavia still struggling to get rid of the mentality of being rude and arrogant.
LOL,
you are an idiot!
period.
Zoltan is a Hungarian name! really particular to that language!
more, that was never a secret. nor that i live in Thailand since 2002.
oh, well, that must make me low grade then.
something to hide?
even have an open TE...
and a journal, going back some years....but i know already reading is not your forte.
probably nor trading, but that would hurt your snowflake nature....however who knows, you call yourself a "not a trader, money machine"

anyway, enough for the weekend fun!!
but thanks for the morning laughs! predictable old jokes, but still. evergreen for a low grade guy from Thailand like me.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #1,257
  • Mar 7, 2020 12:39am Mar 7, 2020 12:39am
Quoting NotAtrader
{quote} Absolutely pointless post. As I said you two do support each other and you like each other’s posts like a person with a double profile would do. And by the way Zoltan from Thailand sounds very probable and it speaks about the low grade of honesty living in that person. Do you guys have something to hide? To me it sounds more like someone from the ex Yugoslavia still struggling to get rid of the mentality of being rude and arrogant.
Pointless replying to you.
Good luck if you want to continue with this.
  • #1,258
  • Mar 7, 2020 12:50am Mar 7, 2020 12:50am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} Pointless replying to you. Good luck if you want to continue with this.

Nope, I'll bite.

What does Zoltan have to hide?
What do I have to hide?

Maybe I'm three people and I'm Zoltan, you and me and I'm enjoying arguing with myself.
Get your head around that, you're struggling with everything else.
  • #1,259
  • Mar 7, 2020 1:08am Mar 7, 2020 1:08am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} Nope, I'll bite. What does Zoltan have to hide? What do I have to hide? Maybe I'm three people and I'm Zoltan, you and me and I'm enjoying arguing with myself. Get your head around that, you're struggling with everything else.
Of course you’ll bite because there’s nothing else can do and in no way you can contribute to something constructive in this discussion.

And NO it is not pointless replying to me as long as you avoid to attack people personally. I was just referring to a company which do not deliver what they promise, while you attack a person for being critical to a suspicious activity done by a company.

BTW I give you a credit for you being so inadequate and for your stubbornness and the inability to understand the matter being discussed. Quite impressive!!!
No username yet? You are on my ignore list. Fuck off and do not quote me!
  • #1,260
  • Mar 7, 2020 1:33am Mar 7, 2020 1:33am
Quoting NotAtrader
{quote} Of course you’ll bite because there’s nothing else can do and in no way you can contribute to something constructive in this discussion. And NO it is not pointless replying to me as long as you avoid to attack people personally. I was just referring to a company which do not deliver what they promise, while you attack a person for being critical to a suspicious activity done by a company. BTW I give you a credit for you being so inadequate and for your stubbornness and the inability to understand the matter being discussed. Quite impressive!!!...
''Of course you'll bite''............Ok NotAsomething lets try this

Can you point out where, in post 1241 and post 1245 where Zoltan or I were rude to you?
Correct me if I'm wrong but your post 1247 was referring to those two posts, yes or no?
Last time I looked 1247 was before 1248 so stands to reason you were referring to previous posts unless you can see into the future...
Can you do that?? I'll wait your reply.

Just copy and paste from those two posts, very simple, highlight where we were rude, see how you go.

Then I'll copy and paste again where you were rude first in post 1247..

After that either you leave the factory or I will, whoever was rude first.

You agree with that?????????????????
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