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  • #701
  • Mar 3, 2020 11:37am Mar 3, 2020 11:37am
Quoting Forest-Sea
{quote} You are a very smart trader. It seems so obviousAFTER you show us. Evidently not since hundreds/1000s didn't catch it before on the forum. 2 Thank you . . . again
All credit goes to Michael S Jenkins.....application is the key to understanding his methods...takes practice and discipline...neither of which I have much off but I do like profits... and precision trading losses are so limited that way...
  • #702
  • Mar 3, 2020 11:41am Mar 3, 2020 11:41am
Quoting acetrader
Hi Swede, In reference to post #462. Do you currently use this method & would you consider it a stand alone method? I saw the pdf listed here & will take a look at it. Just wanted your views as you seem to have firm grasp on the Jenkins Methods. Thank you for any response. Another good thread by the DiamondMan.
Now, after saying how importand octaves, Time Conversion bars and all that....you can build a system, method just trading the Jenkins Secret Angle...read up on it...
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  • #703
  • Mar 3, 2020 11:50am Mar 3, 2020 11:50am
On the Euro trade...took profit on 2 lots +22 +24...will leave 2 on for the duration of the session, but normally at this time the retrace happens at the top of the hour....
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  • #704
  • Mar 3, 2020 12:00pm Mar 3, 2020 12:00pm
Happy with today's results...Thank you Fed Reserve lol
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  • #705
  • Mar 3, 2020 2:17pm Mar 3, 2020 2:17pm
Quoting juhanimi
{quote} I mean those angles, they do change, so must find something else, maybe MT5 has same issue, I guess.
MT5 will let you properly square a chart
"When the facts change, I change my mind"
  • #706
  • Mar 3, 2020 2:57pm Mar 3, 2020 2:57pm
Quoting juhanimi
{quote} I mean those angles, they do change, so must find something else, maybe MT5 has same issue, I guess.
Did you try to re program the FIB FAN?? The trendline when placed on any chart stays on the chart regardless of scaling or time frame...
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  • #707
  • Mar 3, 2020 3:55pm Mar 3, 2020 3:55pm
Quoting amundo
{quote} MT5 will let you properly square a chart
Yep, I just checked that and tried it out. It works really well.
  • #708
  • Mar 3, 2020 5:20pm Mar 3, 2020 5:20pm
Quoting Swede
Place these in your script file...not indicator file...you will need them.. {file} {file}
Hi guys! Share the open source code of these scripts for writing indicators. Thanks!
Circle Script v1.0.ex4
Michael Jenkins Angle Script v1.0.ex4
  • #709
  • Mar 3, 2020 6:39pm Mar 3, 2020 6:39pm
Hi everyone,
Jenkins material, as is material of many others with similar methods, is hardly useful in trading.
While reading the book lots of things look great and make sense, on carefully selected charts, but as one subscribes to his daily hotline and/or daily e-mail service - everything becomes clear within a few months. You guessed correctly - I used to be a customer of his, but after a while, even though there is a good call here and there, most of the calls are 50/50 at best. I remember there was a span of a few months where every time Jenkins said he expects the next day to be strong up or strong down - Market did exact opposite at least 10 times in a row.
And as far as actual methods which he teaches go - those are even more problematic. The problem is that over the years Jenkins developed so many different methods that there is always at least one method that can be applied to every possible outcome, in hindsight of course. Between calendar days, market days, square root of that coupled with square of this, and than we have sinus, cosinus and tandem, and all this before we even get in to fractions and partials, then add Astrology in to the mix and Cycles - you get the idea.
Yes, some of the stuff is very interesting, but as far as trading goes - these methods can not be executed again and again because they can not be quantified. A trader can only consistently pull the trigger on a trade if his method has long term positive expectation, otherwise it is nothing more than gambling.
  • #710
  • Edited 8:08pm Mar 3, 2020 7:33pm | Edited 8:08pm
Unfortunately, there are still Negative Haters out there, good bye cororacus who has been a FF member since 2008 and only 16 posts, have a nice life.

Gladly there are people making money with Michael S. Jenkins because it's easy to learn and cost nothing. I'll be honest with you, ever since I made a post last week stating I wanted only Jenkins material on this thread, one guy goes Bananas, because now he can't post his agenda. I nor Swede have no quarrel with anyone preaching any other trading discipline. This one on this thread works for me and Swede and it should work for you, if your willing to learn it.
DM
You NEVER will be the person you could be, without pressure & discipline
  • #711
  • Mar 3, 2020 8:10pm Mar 3, 2020 8:10pm
Quoting wens
{quote} Hi guys! Share the open source code of these scripts for writing indicators. Thanks! Circle Script v1.0.ex4 Michael Jenkins Angle Script v1.0.ex4
Maybe you will find it here? https://barmenteros.com/page/2/
You NEVER will be the person you could be, without pressure & discipline
  • #712
  • Mar 3, 2020 8:35pm Mar 3, 2020 8:35pm
Quoting wens
{quote} Hi guys! Share the open source code of these scripts for writing indicators. Thanks! Circle Script v1.0.ex4 Michael Jenkins Angle Script v1.0.ex4
We will get that for you...on my tablet tonight so will get back....question...there is an indicator called grid builder in mt4...it sets a Horizonte line a certain distance apart from one another and the lines are adjustable...I would like it to have a starting point...that way we can use the square root Jenkins method that starts with the low of a major swing...you take the square root of that number and add the answer to the low to establish the next sup/ res level. The Jenkins plug in in in Ensign does it automatically, but nothing like it in Mt4. It would really assist us in establishing precision levels.
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  • #713
  • Mar 3, 2020 8:36pm Mar 3, 2020 8:36pm
Quoting cocoracas
I used to be a customer of his, but after a while, even though there is a good call here and there, most of the calls are 50/50 at best. I remember there was a span of a few months where every time Jenkins said he expects the next day to be strong up or strong down - Market did exact opposite at least 10 times in a row
Over what period of time was this ? Tried to Pm you, but not going thru......can you pm me

Quoting cocoracas
these methods can not be executed again and again because they can not be quantified. A trader can only consistently pull the trigger on a trade if his method has long term positive expectation, otherwise it is nothing more than gambling.
To some extent I do agree with this, at the same time Jenkins does say that his methods need to be coupled with other analysis. I'm using it on just 2 charts because of the time required.

Worth the effort only if you have the right. software
  • #714
  • Mar 3, 2020 8:45pm Mar 3, 2020 8:45pm
Quoting Verde
{quote} Over what period of time was this ? Tried to Pm you, but not going thru......can you pm me {quote} To some extent I do agree with this, at the same time Jenkins does say that his methods need to be coupled with other analysis. I'm using it on just 2 charts because of the time required. Worth the effort only if you have the right. software
Neither of them have even read the material,....if you agree, and you haven’t practiced it yourself, please move on....
  • #715
  • Mar 3, 2020 8:50pm Mar 3, 2020 8:50pm
Davit told me this would happen...as soon as someone is successful the poison starts...I didn’t think we would have it coming but I guess it’s part of the wonderful world of FF.
  • #716
  • Mar 3, 2020 9:02pm Mar 3, 2020 9:02pm
Quoting Swede
{quote} Isn’t that amazing....the three guys who ganged up on u the other night, including BWilliams...got you suspended.....he and Corcrass admit they never read Jenkins and make these kind poison statements....and below is the signature of those who posted it for all to see....how low can you go.... {image}
As the old saying goes, "the Truth Always comes out in the End". Amazing, on how all the Culprits become revealed in the end and still come back around for more to "Like" posts....LOL
Goodness will overcome Hate every time.
DM
You NEVER will be the person you could be, without pressure & discipline
  • #717
  • Mar 3, 2020 9:06pm Mar 3, 2020 9:06pm
Quoting Swede
{quote} Neither of them have even read the material,....if you agree, and you haven’t practiced it yourself, please move on....
No idea what they have read or not.

I've been using some of these methods since 2011 and well aware of the pros and cons.
Hard fact #1. None of the methods are scannable
Hard fact #2. All the price squaring lines can be made to intersect different bars by zooming the chart

Read my prior post again and if you still cannot understand it please move on
Quoting Verde
{quote} Worth the effort only if you have the right software
  • #718
  • Mar 3, 2020 9:24pm Mar 3, 2020 9:24pm
Quoting Swede
Davit told me this would happen...as soon as someone is successful the poison starts...I didn’t think we would have it coming but I guess it’s part of the wonderful world of FF.
Swede, I see Davit's Valid Point.
DM
You NEVER will be the person you could be, without pressure & discipline
  • #719
  • Mar 3, 2020 10:03pm Mar 3, 2020 10:03pm
I wish I knew why all the problems with these 4....we haven't done a thing to any of them...tried to reason with them that we were trying to keep this as close as possible to the Jenkins formula......I even helped parisboy to work on the envelopes so they would work properly on mt4....spent tons of time tweaking things so we could all use our mt4...I know its not perfect, but what does work are the levels, octaves, time and price cycles, time conversion bars, and Jenkins Secret Angle....they work fine with mt4.....

I know none of it is perfect...we know that....but what has been used to this point has been very profitable...at least for me anyway....just trying to offer some payback to the community of traders who have found themselves with difficulties, and this is a new method for them...trying to make it easy to understand, because if one were to just read the Gann formulas, well, we would soon give up....but Jenkins makes it so easy...
its worth working on...

All we asked is to keep it Jenkins as best as possible....have nothing against any of them personally....nor anything against their methods..

I just don't understand...???? I refuse to comment further on any of the post I find offensive to argumentative...just going to focus on trading..
  • #720
  • Mar 3, 2020 10:23pm Mar 3, 2020 10:23pm
In fact, I happen to know the envelope method is very valid...why do you think I went to all this work to help adapt to MT4.....In fact I think it is absolutely a method worth knowing.....and to BWilliams....I even have the dual Ichimoku on one of my 4 hour charts to show me ultimate Support or Resistance at certain cloud levels.... the only conflict was page one of DM's thread...to Keep It Jenkins...otherwise I would be posting other ways to look at the market......

But why all the fuss....why the animosity, why the posting by people who havnt even read Jenkins, yet feel its ok to bash what we are trying to do.

Do you see us bashing anyone...defending ourselves perhaps,,,but bashing? No Way and No Way are we going to start..

ps....I see 70 downloads to help with MT4 users use the envelope method. Its time to stop here and give all this some thought.
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