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China's Hubei province reports 14,840 new cases on Feb 12

CHINA'S HUBEI PROVINCE, EPICENTRE OF CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK, REPORTS 14,840 NEW CASES ON FEB 12
— RedboxGlobal (@RedboxWire) February 12, 2020

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CHINA'S HUBEI PROVINCE, EPICENTRE OF CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK, REPORTS 242 NEW DEATHS ON FEB 12
— Breaking Market News (@breakingmkts) February 12, 2020

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Feb 12, 2020 6:39pm

Trying to not get frustrated with the ignorance here.

They've changed the classification from pathologically diagnosed to clinically diagnosed. That's a very significant and much looser classification. Of course that would mean a huge jump.

Be mindful that clinical diagnosis is not proof of the cause. There will be a lot of false positives in that cohort. They've obviously changed it to allow faster monitoring of probabilistic spread.

My views are totally seperate from trading. I just find it incredible how people on this forum and who work in media have zero understanding of medicine or statistics. It's always a rush to be the first to print!

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Feb 12, 2020 6:02pm

Such an ugly and purposely deceptive headline. When are these shady news wires going to be held accountable?

How much more effort is it to qualify those numbers. Is that 242 in one day? 14840 case in one day? You just know it's garbage.

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Feb 12, 2020 6:17pm

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its another 14k in one day ,60k have been infected {quote}

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The provence has a population not far off the UK's.

Isn't that c. 1/1000 have been infected then (using you 60k figure)?

I'm just not getting this. It certainly represents an unknown, but the numbers do not point to something as serious as what western media (social) has been pumping out.

Weird times. We are all victims of manipulation it seems.

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Feb 12, 2020 6:12pm

its another 14k in one day ,60k have been infected- headline looks clear

Quoting ww3361

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Such an ugly and purposely deceptive headline. When are these shady news wires going to be held accountable? How much more effort is it to qualify those numbers. Is that 242 in one day? 14840 case in one day? You just know it's garbage.

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Feb 13, 2020 3:22am

China’s Hubei province, at the center of the coronavirus outbreak, is requiring that enterprises not resume work before Feb. 20, according to the local government.

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Feb 12, 2020 6:02pm

This data was reported before. Don't get scammed

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Feb 12, 2020 6:05pm

More dangerous than hard war. Kill humans slowly every day.

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Feb 12, 2020 6:33pm

its a jump as far the map goes, there were about 3k a day ,bottom right corner

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{quote} The provence has a population not far off the UK's. Isn't that c. 1/1000 have been infected then (using you 60k figure)? I'm just not getting this. It certainly represents an unknown, but the numbers do not point to something as serious as what western media (social) has been pumping out. Weird times. We are all victims of manipulation it seems.

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Feb 12, 2020 6:36pm

you think it's fake ?

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{quote} Not fake news..... oh and here's a link to a website. Lovely stuff. So CharlyNajjar; from that website what do you find particularly alarming? Please expand?

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Feb 12, 2020 6:51pm

don't tell me seasonal flus got worse numbers- yet all chinas in quarantine ,no flights going there
Nothing to do with media its a major problem should it escape further , 10 time more contagious than flu and long incubation, no herd immunity, no vaccine...
thats why governments are scared of what it could be ,illness and fear is enough to shut economies down.

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{quote} The provence has a population not far off the UK's. Isn't that c. 1/1000 have been infected then (using you 60k figure)? I'm just not getting this. It certainly represents an unknown, but the numbers do not point to something as serious as what western media (social) has been pumping out. Weird times. We are all victims of manipulation it seems.

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Feb 12, 2020 6:59pm

yes I think thats right, its a jump overall but not in a day as they just included more people ,
numbers prob a bit unreliable anyway out of China

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{quote} I struggle to disagree with your points. How can I? You've missed my argument though. Decrease the accuracy of diagnosis and number of diagnosis positive patients will jump. That's all that's happened here. Am i making sense yet?

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Feb 12, 2020 6:17pm

"revised the method for counting infections."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...premium-europe

Feb 13, 2020 2:07am — Edited

I'm from China. Actually this is good news. It shows that they now have enough resources to provide treatment for all those who've contracted the disease. They are starting to put the situation under control. Smart money use this "bad news" to manipulate the market.

Feb 12, 2020 10:16pm

Quoting Devas1

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2258702/pdf/1085-07.pdf

Feb 12, 2020 6:21pm

Quoting Breza

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"revised the method for counting infections." https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...premium-europe

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So if you include clinically diagnosed, which means unconfirmed (from pathology) clinical presentations of pneumonia and similar then yes.... guess what the figure goes up a lot.

But you are still looking at an increase over what is a tiny prevalence rate to start with.

It's western media. They are loving this! Why people get a kick out of exploiting the ignorant is lost on me.

Feb 12, 2020 6:33pm

Quoting CharlyNajjar

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this is not fake news, you can find here the link for Coronavirus live update https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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Not fake news..... oh and here's a link to a website. Lovely stuff.

So CharlyNajjar; from that website what do you find particularly alarming? Please expand?

Feb 12, 2020 6:57pm

Quoting Bones

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don't tell me seasonal flus got worse numbers- yet all chinas in quarantine ,no flights going there Nothing to do with media its a major problem should it escape further , 10 time more contagious than flu and long incubation, no herd immunity thats why governments are scared of what it could be ,illness and fear is enough to shut economies down. {quote}

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I struggle to disagree with your points. How can I?

You've missed my argument though.

Decrease the accuracy of diagnosis and number of diagnosis positive patients will jump. That's all that's happened here. Am i making sense yet?

Having said all that, no doubt the truth lies in the middle somewhere: Looser inclusion criteria means more infections being counted and attributed...But maybe China kept the inclusion criteria artificially tight to begin with and are now giving up the ghost (that's what the media is going with).

Feb 12, 2020 6:56pm

I do agree tho if they reclassified it somehow the rise prob not a true jump up

Feb 12, 2020 7:16pm

SELL XAUUSD.
Even if Coronavirus is not exaggerated, deaths and infection rampart, the markets will still move in its original trend after the news pull back. 👌

Feb 12, 2020 7:23pm

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this thing is real. if reach africa will be a bloodbath

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It's not reaching Africa... have Faith.

Feb 12, 2020 5:57pm

BUY gold, sell oil

Feb 13, 2020 3:06am

Feb 13, 2020 3:44am

For Information: CNBC update.
Last edit 20 minutes ago.

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/02/1...-outbreak.html

Feb 13, 2020 4:42am

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Feb 12, 2020 10:48pm

Quoting ww3361

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{quote} I struggle to disagree with your points.

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Today is ww3361 against bones

That should be fun! * ekan brings the popcorn out this time for a change*

Feb 12, 2020 10:14pm

Shitty.

Still, ratio of death:recovery is at 21.6% as opposed to 50% a week ago.

Feb 12, 2020 6:46pm

As far as I know this virus will wipe out all humans.

But this headline..... be aware that it's just a classification change that caused the jump. That's all.

Total madness.

Feb 12, 2020 6:01pm

Gold break

Feb 12, 2020 6:17pm

Wow! Incredible!

Feb 12, 2020 11:20pm

Latest news: You don't have to worry about coronavirus anymore. It's Name has been officially changed!

From the New York Times

"The Illness Now Has a Name, COVID-19
The World Health Organization said it had chosen a name for the disease that makes no reference to places, animals or people to avoid stigma."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/world/asia/coronavirus-china.html

Feb 12, 2020 6:19pm

And yet they are still serving bat food in Indonesia as well after being warned not to. Immigration is the only thing I agree with Trump on. Put all these countries on a ban list.

Feb 12, 2020 6:30pm

this is not fake news, you can find here the link for Coronavirus live update

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Feb 12, 2020 6:39pm

Those numbers aren't even accurate. If you watch serpentza on youtube, he has lot of doctor friends in china who says those numbers are just a percentage of the real number.

Feb 12, 2020 6:48pm

this thing is real. if reach africa will be a bloodbath

Feb 13, 2020 6:59am

One dead in Japan

Trader#AAD3

Feb 28, 2020 10:06pm

Quoting pooh123

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I'm from China. Actually this is good news. It shows that they now have enough resources to provide treatment for all those who've contracted the disease. They are starting to put the situation under control. Smart money use this "bad news" to manipulate the market.

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Hope you and your family is doing well and staying safe. I cannot imagine how hard it must be for folks suffering in such large numbers.

Your good 'ld pal in self-imposed exile...guess who:-)

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