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  • #1
  • First Post: Feb 9, 2020 2:57pm Feb 9, 2020 2:57pm
I bought a Dell XPS 13 with high resolution, 4k display. Now... some of my MT4 indi's are SO out of whack they're unusable!! Does ANYONE have a real fix?? I'm considering even purchasing new equipment to trade with because I'm ready to give up at this point :-/. When I had my old laptop, a Dell XPS 15 with windows 10 home, and the latest MT4 build (I believe), everything looked great, but now... I can't use this laptop to trade and it pisses me off, because i BOUGHT this, so I could trade on a lighter, faster, better machine... ugggh.

I've tried using a manifest file.. changing windows display settings to EVERY one available... overwriting my .exe file display settings... to System, etc. I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING, and nothing makes my screen on my VPS MT4 better.... it's freakin' 2020 and I cannot trade on a NEW machine????

If ANYONE has real fix, my ears are open... otherwise, please tell me what your using to trade on, if it works flawlessly for you... I'll probably be buying a "downgraded" laptop now..... thanks to all the people on this site, I know one of you will come up with a workable solution, I've seen so much knowledge on this forum I have no doubts ;-)

I need to be able to use my FAV indi/EA... thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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  • #2
  • Feb 9, 2020 3:04pm Feb 9, 2020 3:04pm
Will be moved to Platform Tech

Go naked trading, crap looking indicators anyway

It takes a lot for me to IGNORE you, but you can try.
  • #3
  • Feb 9, 2020 3:07pm Feb 9, 2020 3:07pm
Quoting Shazzie
I bought a Dell XPS 13 with high resolution, 4k display. Now... some of my MT4 indi's are SO out of whack they're unusable!! Does ANYONE have a real fix?? I'm considering even purchasing new equipment to trade with because I'm ready to give up at this point :-/. When I had my old laptop, a Dell XPS 15 with windows 10 home, and the latest MT4 build (I believe), everything looked great, but now... I can't use this laptop to trade and it pisses me off, because i BOUGHT this, so I could trade on a lighter, faster, better machine... ugggh. I've tried...
Have you tried mt5?
  • #4
  • Feb 9, 2020 3:10pm Feb 9, 2020 3:10pm
Quoting hibra68
{quote} Have you tried mt5?
My take is that Metatrader is fine, only the indicators won't display

Get some approved indicators at www.mql5.com as a check, see if they work
It takes a lot for me to IGNORE you, but you can try.
  • #5
  • Feb 9, 2020 3:25pm Feb 9, 2020 3:25pm
Quoting Erebus
Will be moved to Platform Tech Go naked trading, crap looking indicators anyway
Thanks, and sorry for the wrong spot. naked?! What I’m using is “working” for me... so... andddd it’s not like I have all your years of experience <being playful> to use a naked chart. I don’t have a lot on my charts, just an indi & ea that lets me reverse in a split second if I have to....

im a newbie, been trading for just about a year now so I use what works
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  • #6
  • Feb 9, 2020 3:27pm Feb 9, 2020 3:27pm
Quoting Erebus
crap looking indicators anyway
. Aren’t you sweet....
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  • #7
  • Feb 9, 2020 3:28pm Feb 9, 2020 3:28pm
Quoting hibra68
{quote} Have you tried mt5?
No, but I will if that’s a better option as far as resolution goes, thanks I’ll give it a look
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  • #8
  • Feb 9, 2020 3:30pm Feb 9, 2020 3:30pm
Quoting Erebus
{quote} My take is that Metatrader is fine, only the indicators won't display Get some approved indicators at www.mql5.com as a check, see if they work
Yea okay, I’m already in touch with the coder, I’ll see if he can work it out. Is MT4 on its way out?
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  • #9
  • Feb 9, 2020 3:32pm Feb 9, 2020 3:32pm
I have had something similar...a 4K screen unleashes enormous potential in showing lots and lots and lots of detail (but pretty small), so I tend to reduce that a little bit by applying a scale factor or a non-4K screen resolution - just to make things properly visible to the naked eye again :-)

I reckon you may be using a windows 10 scaling factor on the 4K screen - and then what happens is that this scaling does NOT apply to everything, because MetaTrader circumvents the Windows scaling and calls directly to the positioning routines of your graphics.

So the way I solved it is by applying a scaling factor to my indicator and EA codes - in the routines that position stuff on the screen in x,y coordinates.

Where I may have had a function SetText(...,...,x,y) I now have SetText(...,...,XFactor*x,YFactor*y) - for any routines that use positioning in terms of points on the screen. The value of the XFactor,YFactor is dependent on the scaling factor you use on W10. Where I use a W10 scale factor of 150%, I use a factor 1.5 for both XFactor and YFactor. Any positioning that uses (date,price) for x,y my fix is not necessary.

Hope that helps,
Cheerio,

John

John
  • #10
  • Feb 9, 2020 3:43pm Feb 9, 2020 3:43pm
Quoting Shazzie
I bought a Dell XPS 13 with high resolution, 4k display. Now... some of my MT4 indi's are SO out of whack they're unusable!! Does ANYONE have a real fix?? I'm considering even purchasing new equipment to trade with because I'm ready to give up at this point :-/. When I had my old laptop, a Dell XPS 15 with windows 10 home, and the latest MT4 build (I believe), everything looked great, but now... I can't use this laptop to trade and it pisses me off, because i BOUGHT this, so I could trade on a lighter, faster, better machine... ugggh. I've tried...
Try this and see if this fix the 'problem'

in your MT4 Terminal Properties,

go tot Compatibility then

do this... select System instead of Application

then re-start your PC.

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  • #11
  • Feb 9, 2020 5:04pm Feb 9, 2020 5:04pm
Hi Emmanuel - nice one.

You're absolutely right. If you use a shortcut you can also change that setting in the shortcut properties, and I just tried but I did not need to reboot the machine, but that's obviously always the safest option - if you have nothing else critical running...

I'll try and post screenshots before and after: you'll notice the difference.

Cheerio,

John
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  • #12
  • Feb 9, 2020 6:19pm Feb 9, 2020 6:19pm
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} Try this and see if this fix the 'problem' in your MT4 Terminal Properties, go tot Compatibility then do this... select System instead of Application then re-start your PC. {image}
Thanks, yes I already tried this, no luck. Maybe I’ll just jump over to MT5 and try it out... <sigh>.... just frustrated by it.
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  • #13
  • Feb 9, 2020 6:25pm Feb 9, 2020 6:25pm
Quoting johnvanwijk
I have had something similar...a 4K screen unleashes enormous potential in showing lots and lots and lots of detail (but pretty small), so I tend to reduce that a little bit by applying a scale factor or a non-4K screen resolution - just to make things properly visible to the naked eye again :-) I reckon you may be using a windows 10 scaling factor on the 4K screen...
Thanks for your input. If I had the code I could try but unfortunately, I don’t, for the indi/EA that I like. The others I can recreate in MT5 easily.
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  • #14
  • Feb 9, 2020 6:36pm Feb 9, 2020 6:36pm
Shazzie

I have the same computer and no issues with MT4 or indicators.

Looks like this may simply be an indicator issue. Try this from MLaden - the reason why the indicator isn't displaying is most likely due to the MT4 1090 bug
The easy way to get the indicator to display:

1. Open your MetaEditor program
2. Open the indicator with MetaEditor
3. Click on the "Compile" button at the top 5 times
4. Load the indicator into your MT4 again

If you cant access the code, then that you have a different issue.
  • #15
  • Feb 9, 2020 6:40pm Feb 9, 2020 6:40pm
Quoting pakeha
Shazzie I have the same computer and no issues with MT4 or indicators. Looks like this may simply be an indicator issue. Try this from MLaden - the reason why the indicator isn't displaying is most likely due to the MT4 1090 bug The easy way to get the indicator to display: 1. Open your MetaEditor program 2. Open the indicator with MetaEditor 3. Click on the "Compile" button at the top 5 times 4. Load the indicator into your MT4 again If you cant access the code, then that you have a different issue.
Wow okay, thanks.
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  • #16
  • Feb 9, 2020 7:13pm Feb 9, 2020 7:13pm
Why doesn't this help? and HD is too much for MT4 on a laptop
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  • #17
  • Edited 9:12pm Feb 9, 2020 9:01pm | Edited 9:12pm
Quoting Shazzie
I bought a Dell XPS 13 with high resolution, 4k display...
Understand you so well. Did nearly the same as you (Dell Precision) and could not believe what I experienced. So, what to do?

Go back to a regular display size (I say: buy a laptop with standard HD). On HD you will choose a resolution scaling between 120%-125% (I use 123%) and today MT4 can finally handle that resolution to an acceptable degree. Forget about 4K. Surely good software handles it but that's just not the MetaQuotes playground.

I know the decision hurts. I worked with MT4 on a 13'' laptop since 2007. Last year it broke and I had to buy a new one (HD). Every laptop with less than 17'' is a desaster as the screen resolution works for videos but not for graphic programs. I had to put the 13'' laptop to the attic and bought a second one (Dell with 15.6'' display).

If nothing helps: Install VirtualBox and run MT4 on Windows 7, on a host with Windows 10. Windows 7 is more stable and has more fine-granular scaling options. I scrapped Windows 10 and completely switched back to Windows 7, just for MT4. If you use Remote Desktop to a Windows machine the screen resolution of the source machine is what matters.

ps: I see you are from the States so chances are you can get there one of the last Dell Precision models with Intel7 chipset (official support for Windows 7 and Windows 10). I guess I bought the absolutely last one in Europe, now there's none here anymore :-)
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  • #18
  • Feb 9, 2020 9:53pm Feb 9, 2020 9:53pm
Quoting Breza
Why doesn't this help? and HD is too much for MT4 on a laptop{image}
I tried your suggestion. Again, way too huge, text, menus's, etc.
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  • #19
  • Feb 9, 2020 10:04pm Feb 9, 2020 10:04pm
Quoting emmzett
{quote} Understand you so well. Did nearly the same as you (Dell Precision) and could not believe what I experienced. So, what to do? Go back to a regular display size (I say: buy a laptop with standard HD).....
Well... I do still have my old laptop, I could set that one up to use for trading only... maybe give it a bump in memory, who knows, it may work out great! I bought this new one because it was so light, I thought I could take it with me anywhere and trade on the go if I wanted. Nope, I guess I'm stuck with the paperweight :-/

Funny you talk about windows 10, the new laptop came with 10 Home, I upgraded to 10 Pro and THAT'S when all hell broke loose! When I first got it, MT4 worked great, but then not. So.... I went BACK to 10 Home FROM Pro, and it's still giving me grief and hasn't been the same. I hate windows 10. I should've bought a Mac, lol. At any rate, thanks for all the info and suggestions, I will look into VirtualBox also... what a downright pain, eh?

Oh, and not sure if I said I use a VPS to run MT4 but that just pulls the res from the laptop, so.... ugggh
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  • #20
  • Feb 9, 2020 10:17pm Feb 9, 2020 10:17pm
Quoting pakeha
Shazzie I have the same computer and no issues with MT4 or indicators. Looks like this may simply be an indicator issue. Try this from MLaden - the reason why the indicator isn't displaying is most likely due to the MT4 1090 bug The easy way to get the indicator to display: 1. Open your MetaEditor program 2. Open the indicator with MetaEditor 3. Click on the "Compile" button at the top 5 times 4. Load the indicator into your MT4 again If you cant access the code, then that you have a different issue.
I tried, but the .ex4 files don't show up... yea I can't get to the code. Thanks anyways...
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