W D. Gann was a phony who made money selling courses

Absolutely spot on!![/quote]

I'm not a high diploma maths guy.but everything is based with the capacity to calculate it.
I'm quite sure if one had the inclination and the relevant information one could determine exactly what time they would require a shit after inputting the food values and the water intake along with temperature. outlying variables such as internal organ health would undoubtedly show as long tails.

The more information we can input the more we can be smugly standing at the front of the que

I must say that I do not approve any of the scams but let me tell you this... While people are "on the roll" or "zoned-in"... btw that is true in ANY scheme/play... it is impossible to "wake them up"... I sometimes wonder if some people actually needs this aka being shaved... I have seen many schemes, gurus or whatever where people were so locked-in that they ATTACKED and insult anyone that would tell them to at least second doubt... BTW there are many like those, there are even official statements against certain gurus, schemes or even markets.. but as long as people are having either profit or "high" from it... they won't listen, not at least they get burned, usually heavy....

BTW I do not know the exact case here but the story is always the same... Same thing over and over again, just rebranded... One needs to be in the business 20 if not 40years to realise the simplest truths of the markets there is... And also, hindsights are 20/20... Every scheme/guru that was disclosed... From Ponzi to Madoff.. people now say "I would never.." or/and "It was obvious AF"... but when new one comes along they see it as a new coming... as "I beat the system", "I figured out the system", "Found a hole in the rules"... or "I outperformed banks, funds... who are you to tell me..."... or something similar... I can tell you that there are many more gurus, markets without any substance... although there are Warnings and PROOFS that there is nothing inside.. So I sometimes wonder.. Do people actually need this "high", "dreams" or whatever.. Because what is true that.. depending on the "scheme/system/guru" some will actually earn something if they ride if properly... and exit in time... Some sort of (social) leveling mechanism.. I do not have the answers, just giving you my thoughts since it does appear confusing AF at times... I mean some literally sell 2+2=5 and people LOVE it, believe it, even if there are 1000 proofs that 2+2=4.. Almost irrelevant.. Maybe they tap into the more religious part of the mind that does not listen to logic necessarily but belief...

lol, funny, just like the various patterns, waves, etc.

bloodpoodle thanks for this link