Trading Institutional Order Flow

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Hello everyone, I wanted to break down a trade I want to take in NG Hoping I could get some feedback and see if I am on the right page Weekly - I identified the curve.. we are sitting in a little bit of Weekly demand (tested) but I figured I'd still want to be a buyer rather than a seller I like to enter on 4hr usually, but I noticed on the 1hr (bottom right) that it inherited the supply zone, broke the momentum line down AND it took out supply above as well.. I am confused because on the Daily timeframe it looks like we are sitting in or near supply..does...

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Quoting Jonny-D88

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{quote} Hi Telepath, I am new to this forum thread so don't take what I say as an expert opinion... but have been trading for the last 4 years (so have some experience). However, I would have been looking for sells from the 1D supply zone above which you were buying in to. Looking at the 1D (I generally look at the 1D for zones to trade from + 4H for entry), you can see price so far is creating lower lows and lower highs creating fresh supply zones. Until one of those supply zones is taken out with a fresh demand beneath, I would only be looking...

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Quoting Telepath

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{quote} thank you.. i do understand what you are saying and yes i saw that D supply level. BUT I have seen in a video AKT mention that when price is in your curve zone (my weekly) then the middle timeframe (my daily) becomes irrelevant.. i guess that is why i am confused.

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Quoting Jonny-D88

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{quote} Please see what I have annotated here on the 1W chart for you Telepath. I do not trade the 1W time frame, but this is how I see it... again it is telling me sells where you were buying in to. I hope this helps point you in the right direction Regards Jonny {image}

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Quoting Jonny-D88

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Hi all. I am currently in EA sells. I figured i'd let you know why I took them... Here's the 1D and 4H time frames. I was taking sells from a fresh 4H zone formed at a 1D zone area. I was only interested after the opposing 4H demand was removed. This is in confluence with the 1D recent trend also removing demand below and pulling back to it's supply. I hope that makes sense to you all. {image} {image}

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Quoting Olamide1995

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{quote} Hi johnny nice setup you got there.. But please can you elaborate what validate the Daily Demand zone you plotted coz I can barely see it breaks any momentum line nor opposing zone.. Thank you

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Quoting Jonny-D88

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{quote} Hi Olamide, please see my attached image for the opposing demand zones which in my eyes were taken out showing the trend as now bearish, as this was a pull back to the most local + recently formed supply zone on the 1D. Any momentum or trend lines would have been broken on the 4H time frame to validate sells for myself. If i'm honest I don't focus on any trend lines. The most important thing for me is seeing an opposing zone get taken out. That's the biggest indication that the opposing buyers are now starting to lose the recent battle against...

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Quoting Olamide1995

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{quote} Thank you john. I really appreciate. Tho my eyes doesn't capture those zones at first coz they ain't obvious. You explanation thought me to be reading my chart from left to write calmly so that I won't miss anything out. Also I will try and implement your entry signal which is waiting for an opposing zone to be removed rather than just pushing the trigger after a mere break of the momentum line.. Thanks once again I appreciate.. Will really like to be your friend coz I have the believe that there is so much I can learn from you.

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Quoting Jonny-D88

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{quote} No worries man. Glad to have helped

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Quoting Mamc17

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Hi all, hope the weekends going good. Would anyone be able to inform me on how long I should consider certain demand and supply zones. If a zone is taken out by price should i no longer consider it at all or just with less validity. What if a zone has been extremely strong in the past ? e.g. 4 months ago and price broke it and now it is coming back to it. Are there any time permits people use on time frames to discourage a zone and consider to be now not of use due to how long ago it was since the zone was in use ? I hope people understand what...

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Quoting Olamide1995

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{quote} So how can I reach out to u personally.. Maybe your handle on any of the social media. Or your WhatsApp or telegram contact.

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Quoting Jonny-D88

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{quote} Hi Mamc17 When a zone is completely taken out (i.e. price on that time frame has closed through the zone), I remove that zone from my chart. It is no longer valid. Also if you don't remove zones which are taken out, your charts will be filled with zones and this will lead to a lot of confusion when analyzing. For example you could be looking to take a trade from a fresh zone but there is an old used up zone opposing it. So this could put you off from entering the trade etc. Just my opinion on the matter anyway. I like my charts to be as...

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Quoting Jonny-D88

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{quote} Just message me on here if you have any questions buddy. I don't feel too comfortable giving out personal contact information to people I do not know. Regards Jonny

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Quoting Olamide1995

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{quote} Aright I understand you.. John.! Please can you explain to me how trend is determine, also what TF should you determine when using 3TF pattern. Also when to trade base on Trend and When not to.. Please I will really appreciate if you explain using some chart to illustrate..!

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