Trading Institutional Order Flow

Hello AKT
Hello Divadurr
For NSD/USD
About short term we look for LONG opp when price retrace to weekly demand zone.
But in my opinion, in the long run I look for SHORT opp when price retrace to weekly supply zone.
I use Monthly (curve)/ Weekly (trend)/ Daily (entry)
Correct me, please.

Hi my friend
My thought on USD/JPY
Correct me, please.
My chart: Weekly/ Daily/ 4 Hours
Thank you.

Incredible stuff man, thanks for the clarification.

Hello tuantm
Happy new year to you sir.
Hopefully see you one of these Sundays for the Roundtable meeting. Early rise for you for sure

Regarding your opinion, your are correct BUT we will need to see how the current price action eveloves. If there is an end to the downward momentum you rightly pointed out, then the assumption is that there may be limited downside to shorts

best wishes

Hello FluffyRabbit
Good to meet you and welcome to T.I.O.F. I don't believe we've met

Congratulations on the successful trade. It's always a great feeling seeing green that's for sure.

If i may, as you are obviously interested in learning and sharing like we all are here,
The trade you took appears to have been a breakout rather than an engaging the buy on the pullback which is what most Supply and demand dtaders would be waiting for. So in that sense, it was really taking the long trade using the daily demand rather than a 4hr play.

It is also worth noting, the downtrend now in place on the daily and that was in play when the trade was taken, suggesting that while buying was possible given the arrival at daily demand, one should primarily be looking for shorts if trading the daily as one's big picture chart, for short term income.

Hope this helps

best wishes

Hi there Akt ,

I love what you're doing , great stuff man. No we've never met before.

Thanks so much for your additional clarification. I find it so useful as I'm still a newbie S/D trader.
I mostly trade the yellow metal and GBP/JPY. So far , I've no problems identifying S and D zones but slightly struggling with the entry and sometimes I tend to confuse myself looking at bigger picture ( in my case it's the daily ).

I know it's a continuous learning process. Honing my skills everyday gleaning every possible information as I can.
Keep'em coming.

Regards ,
FluffyRabbit

Hi Traders ,

A nice short opportunity exist for cooper,

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Good day Traders ,

here's a possible long opportunity on GBP/JPY :

Daily :



4Hr :



1Hr :

sweet 500 pips hit.

Hello traders,

Following is W-D1-4H sequence of NZD-CAD in which I guess is SHORT bias.

Please check this out and your comments and suggestions are much appreciated.







Regards,
Thiha

Hello thiha, this is what I see on daily tf

Hi Akt, and all the group members.
I've been following this thread for a while now which has made me conclude to use SD as my only methodology. I've watched and digest AKT videos on YouTube and try to put everything together since I can't afford his online mentorship at the moment. But I'm still having problem with how to identify if a market is trending or ranging, also when to consider your intermediate TF trend and when not to.
I basically use the 3TF row of Day trading which are : Daily (curve) H4( trend) H1 or 30mins (entries) .. Please do help me with some attach files (chart) so that I can get it clear. Thanks

today bitcoin exactly did what akt said...i m blessed to have mentors like u...thanks

Hello. Please advise me on this supply zone, good or not good?

Can someone clarify what each timeframe is for using my timeframes?

Highest timeframe(Weekly) -
Middle timeframe (Daily) -
Smallest timeframe (4hr,1hr) -

I understand that the my highest timeframe (weekly) is used to determine the curve and I am not taking a trade on that timeframe.
Ive been using the smallest timeframe(4hr,1hr) for confirmation trades using momentum trend lines broken.
But what do I use the middle timeframe for? (daily)

The MTF main purpose is for trend and for confirmation entry.
Confirmation entry on LTF is an aggressive style of trading

Quoting Telepath

Can someone clarify what each timeframe is for using my timeframes? Highest timeframe(Weekly) - Middle timeframe (Daily) - Smallest timeframe (4hr,1hr) - I understand that the my highest timeframe (weekly) is used to determine the curve and I am not taking a trade on that timeframe. Ive been using the smallest timeframe(4hr,1hr) for confirmation trades using momentum trend lines broken. But what do I use the middle timeframe for? (daily)

Highest Timeframe (TF) is to determine curve - i.e. locations where price quickly left, which are possible areas for supply and demand zones.
Middle TF is to determine trend
Lowest TF is to determine entry.


Following is from ATK back on May 8, 2016 8:50am - you'll notice he defined the middle TF for trend

By this definition, once I have identified the Curve SZ and the curve DZ I simply go to the second chart, the trend chart, to determine the trend on that chart (please note that it is not the curve timeframe chart that I determine the trend on, it is the middle chart of my sequence of 3, the intermediate chart .

In this down time I thought I would share with you all, a view of Trends that is key to understanding what exactly is going on when you look at your charts and seek to follow a trend, only to see it turn on you.

I posted this view on FF in March 2016.

I hope it helps.

Best wishes

A DISCUSSION ABOUT TRENDS

I would like to address this age old discussion and issues around the idea of the Trend. My view is from my time as a trader and my experience with trading or trying to trade trends. It is just my view, nothing else.

It is a topic that divides most traders.

There are countless ways traders define trend moving averages, ADX, price action, etc.

For us as S.A.D traders, we use the inter-relationship between supply and demand zones to define trends.

Supply zones being created and respected = Downtrend

Demand zones being created and respected = Uptrend

A definition of trend that has totally changed how I look at them is this:

Trends are only the movement of price between higher timeframe supply and demand levels.

If price is moving from higher timeframe supply to higher timeframe demand we are in a downtrend.

If price is moving from higher timeframe demand to higher timeframe supply then we are in an uptrend.

By this definition, once I have identified the Curve SZ and the curve DZ I simply go to the second chart, the trend chart, to determine the trend on that chart (please note that it is not the curve timeframe chart that I determine the trend on, it is the middle chart of my sequence of 3, the intermediate chart .

By its very definition, a trend is something that has already happened. It is only recognized after the fact.

Now, what causes the most confusion is deciding on a trade direction once the trend direction is determined. We have all heard the age-old trading phrase, The trend is your friend and others like Dont fight the trend, Dont try to catch a falling knife etc.

Well, to start with, Ed Seykota, the legendary trader made a little addition to the phrase the trend is your friend. He said, The trend is your friend, UNTIL THE BEND AT THE END.

To add to Ed Seykotas point, another legendary and extremely wealthy trader, Paul Tudor Jones said the following about trends in general, I believe the very best money is made at the market turns. Everyone says you get killed trying to pick tops and bottoms and you make all your money by playing the trend in the middle. Well for twelve years I have been missing the meat in the middle but I have made a lot of money at tops and bottoms.

Allow me to use the Newtons fundamental laws of motion to explain trends and what happens to them. These laws are easily found on Google. I just picked the first link on a google search

Newtons first law of motion:

Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force is applied to it.

Newtons first law of motion adapted to Trends:

Every Trend in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion until an external force (An opposing larger timeframe zone) is applied to it.

The reason a lot of traders say trade in the direction of the trend is because trends do obey this first law a trend will continue in its current direction hence the view that the trend is a friend.

A trend will continue in its current direction UNTIL the bend at the end comes when this trend reaches an opposing LARGER timeframe zone, for example, a downtrend on a weekly chart reaching a monthly demand zone; or a daily uptrend reaching a weekly supply zone.

So it is for this reason that it is critical that we know where THE BIGGER TIME FRAME LEVELS ARE before we go ahead to follow any trend and not just follow the trend blindly.

Newtons second law of motion:

The relationship between an object's mass m, its acceleration a, and the applied force F is F = ma

Newtons second law of motion adapted to Trends:

The force needed to stop and change a trend must be larger than the force available on the timeframe the trend is identified on. That force by definition can only come from a higher timeframe

To stop an uptrend, you need a mass of sellers and for there to be no more buyers (a loss of buying momentum).

We can only find enough of a mass of sellers on a timeframe higher than the one we are looking at the trend on

We assess momentum or acceleration using trend lines.

We do not assess Trend using trend lines

The combination of finding enough of a mass of sellers (arriving at the larger time frame supply zone), the lack of more buyers and the loss of momentum shown by a trend line break tells us that the trend is no longer up and may soon become down.

Newtons third law of motion:

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Newtons third law of motion adapted to trends: This is how sideways markets are born

For every wave of buying that there is an equal and opposite wave of selling for, we will have no overall movement, resulting in a sideways market

Hello Everyone

Here is the latest Supply and Demand report

best wishes