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  • #7,981
  • Dec 18, 2019 10:01pm Dec 18, 2019 10:01pm
AKT can you mark up USDCAD (W,D, and 4hr) please, I want to make sure I am understanding the S/D levels.
thank you!
  • #7,982
  • Dec 18, 2019 10:49pm Dec 18, 2019 10:49pm
Quoting Mi11tch
Hi There, New to the thread and have been studying S&D for while, great videos on YT btw!! Im trying to get my head around top dwon analysis. I feel i can spot zones pretty well (of coursde in hindsight better). Just wondering if someone can help me out with some confirmation or criticsm on my approach. I want to trade intraday (D,60,15,5) and it doesnt seem to be working out for me at present. I start with a daily and look to determin overall major trend, understand who is in control, i.e working off of supply or demand to the next level. I then...
Hiya Mitch
Welcome to T.I.O.F
I am afraid that contributors are not allowed to post videos on the thread, as stated in the guidance issued on page 1.
I'd kindly ask that the videos be removed please. Leave the text though.
Many thanks and best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #7,983
  • Dec 18, 2019 10:52pm Dec 18, 2019 10:52pm
Quoting tganjos1
Thanks, AKT! i would consider go short when supply is touched. Will atetion to the lines. And, once more, thaks for this trend/thread (sorry for the english mistake... Brazil here).
Hello tganjos
Going short in the time sequence you have chosen ie MWD, is the most appropriate action currently for sure.
There are a few ways to do that, one of which is your idea to go short at the RBD zone on the daily you highlighted. Another would be to watch the weekly chart which is now in an uptrend for weakness to come in before attempting to engage a short. That would be the conservative approach.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #7,984
  • Dec 18, 2019 10:58pm Dec 18, 2019 10:58pm
Quoting Mi11tch
Hi Everyone, Have been studying S&D for a whilke now and my main struggle is the MTF. I day trade and my goal is to trade the 30/15/5 min with a daily bias. Am i right in thinking that i should use the daily for my directional bias for example understanding if Supply or Demand in control? I then drop to the 30 to identify the intraday zones and look for entries in that zone with the daily direction in mind? I have created a shirt doc and video of my thoughts(file size to large)? Happy for comment/criticism. I think my main issue is not waitng for...
Hello Mi11tch,

If i may, using the daily would extend out your time sequence unnecessarily. When you are starting out especially, it is important to try to keep to just the three timeframes 30.15. 5. Adding the daily makes it a different trade.

Also, the difference in information obtained between the 30 and the 15 minute charts is not enough to distinctly differentiate them. One would basically be seeing pretty much the same thing in most cases with these timeframes.

Maybe worth trying say a 240, 60, 15 for intraday income trades. Alternatively, a 30, 15, 5 as you said - I fear in the forex markets, this time sequence is extremely fast and more easily moved around by brokers and their games. It would be more than adequate in a more regulated market like futures but is more challenging in an OTC market like forex

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #7,985
  • Dec 18, 2019 11:00pm Dec 18, 2019 11:00pm
Quoting tsaav20
AKT can you mark up USDCAD (W,D, and 4hr) please, I want to make sure I am understanding the S/D levels. thank you!
Hello tsaav20
if i may, i think it would be more beneficial for you if you posted your thoughts on it so the other traders and i can give you feedback on it.
Don't be shy

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #7,986
  • Dec 18, 2019 11:05pm Dec 18, 2019 11:05pm
Quoting jayfxtrading
Hello follower traders and ATK please I have a question, I have attached a chart on how I see EURUSD playing out any feedback will be highly appreciated. {image}
Hello jayfxtrading

My thoughts on the EURUSD question you asked..

best wishes
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  • #7,987
  • Dec 19, 2019 12:01am Dec 19, 2019 12:01am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello tsaav20 if i may, i think it would be more beneficial for you if you posted your thoughts on it so the other traders and i can give you feedback on it. Don't be shy best wishes
Weekly
https://www.tradingview.com/x/PXzc4qIB/

Daily
https://www.tradingview.com/x/2GDLhhPJ/

4hr
https://www.tradingview.com/x/PHQSedAs/
  • #7,988
  • Dec 19, 2019 8:14pm Dec 19, 2019 8:14pm
Hi! it's me first time in this kind of forum. I want learn this supply and demand strategy. Please made comments in this charts. Sorry for me english it's not me first language. thanks.
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  • #7,989
  • Dec 20, 2019 12:15pm Dec 20, 2019 12:15pm
Hi guys

I have trouble with putting it all together sometimes. My sequence is Weekly/Daily/H4 although I will analyse the Monthly timeframe aswell for further confirmation aswell as H1 to finetune my entry. In this case GBPAUD has hit a monthly supply area. Take note on my Weekly chart I have plotted two supply areas that are embedded in the monthly one. My first question is now how do I know which supply area to take for a long term sell? What must I see exactly to verify the long term trade? My second question is with regards to the most recent weekly demand. Is it safe to take the buy for a short term trade?
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  • #7,990
  • Dec 21, 2019 12:49am Dec 21, 2019 12:49am
Quoting Thabani17
Hi guys I have trouble with putting it all together sometimes. My sequence is Weekly/Daily/H4 although I will analyse the Monthly timeframe aswell for further confirmation aswell as H1 to finetune my entry. In this case GBPAUD has hit a monthly supply area. Take note on my Weekly chart I have plotted two supply areas that are embedded in the monthly one. My first question is now how do I know which supply area to take for a long term sell? What must I see exactly to verify the long term trade? My second question is with regards to the most recent...
Hello Thabani17
Welcome to T.I.O.F
Thank you for sharing your charts on the GBPAUD

A couple of things. You are experiencing a similar challenge to most of our trader colleagues who are trying to put all the moving parts together themselves using the free content here and on the youtube channel. While those are extensive, there is a bit more to it than that.
Secondly, If your sequence is WD4hr, try to stick to those. Looking the monthly and then the hourly makes it not only harder and more confusing especially when starting out, but it also makes it much more difficult to decide on what type of trade you are taking.

In the GBPAUD, prices are in a monthly uptrend and have reached monthly supply, not a good place to but. Waiting for the pullback to monthly demand is a higher probability trade.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #7,991
  • Dec 21, 2019 3:31am Dec 21, 2019 3:31am
Hello AKT and follow traders here are my thoughts on the EURUSD I posted Dec 19, 2019. I welcome any feedback, want to know if my logic to how I see the charts through SND is sound and on the right track. THANKS.
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  • #7,992
  • Dec 21, 2019 3:36am Dec 21, 2019 3:36am
Forgot to add that confirmation would be on a lower time frame and set - n- forget on daily, since price going back to fresh supply zone is confirmation already.....
  • #7,993
  • Dec 22, 2019 6:36pm Dec 22, 2019 6:36pm
My friends, good night (or morning ). Woul you give me some feedback on these SZ and DZ. This AUS200, probably not going to trade it. it is just for training.Sequence is from Month, to week , to day. i'm having a bit of trouble in finding the pattenrs (RBR, DBD, RBD, DBR) would you have some tips on it? and about the "imbalance" of orders we are looking for, should i look for big engulfing candles? Thanks, and sorry for all those questions.

https://www.tradingview.com/x/H6M5eLoY/

https://www.tradingview.com/x/2jRuIEyk/

https://www.tradingview.com/x/AVcp7gyw/
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  • #7,994
  • Dec 23, 2019 7:05am Dec 23, 2019 7:05am
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone thoughts on EURCAD? Best wishes {image}{image}{image}
SIR IN FIRST IMAGE MONTHLY MOMENTUM is up....but the trend line is broken how could u say momentum is up...please explain

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  • #7,995
  • Dec 23, 2019 6:05pm Dec 23, 2019 6:05pm
While I can appreciate everyone's posts here.. to be blunt, I find it slightly shocking that you guys wanting to trade supply/demand or support/resistance areas don't use much other than price action to tell you when your set up is likely to be validated. Price action is lagging to flow. Read the flow and you have market breadth of continuation AND reversals.

And, when you have that your predicted zones are merely windows of opportunity not failed trades.
The charts are wrong but the world accepts what it doesn't know.
  • #7,996
  • Dec 24, 2019 3:22am Dec 24, 2019 3:22am
Quoting Csfxtrading
While I can appreciate everyone's posts here.. to be blunt, I find it slightly shocking that you guys wanting to trade supply/demand or support/resistance areas don't use much other than price action to tell you when your set up is likely to be validated. Price action is lagging to flow. Read the flow and you have market breadth of continuation AND reversals. And, when you have that your predicted zones are merely windows of opportunity not failed trades.
Didn't get what you are trying to say. Can you please elaborate a bit?
If you are talking about volumes, the answer is yes can help but it's not much of help in spot forex for obvious reasons.
"read the flow"
It's a nice statement but what are you using to read the flow?
Here we are trying to follow MMs by reading on charts their actions through PA.
If are we missing something crucial, please show us.
Cheers
  • #7,997
  • Dec 24, 2019 3:26am Dec 24, 2019 3:26am
Quoting Csfxtrading
While I can appreciate everyone's posts here.. to be blunt, I find it slightly shocking that you guys wanting to trade supply/demand or support/resistance areas don't use much other than price action to tell you when your set up is likely to be validated. Price action is lagging to flow. Read the flow and you have market breadth of continuation AND reversals. And, when you have that your predicted zones are merely windows of opportunity not failed trades.
When you mention flow are you referring to Volume flow?
  • #7,998
  • Dec 24, 2019 5:28am Dec 24, 2019 5:28am
Quoting Merka
{quote} Didn't get what you are trying to say. Can you please elaborate a bit? If you are talking about volumes, the answer is yes can help but it's not much of help in spot forex for obvious reasons. "read the flow" It's a nice statement but what are you using to read the flow? Here we are trying to follow MMs by reading on charts their actions through PA. If are we missing something crucial, please show us. Cheers
Volume is available, at a steep cost. Data Aggregation, FIX Engines, Filtering - Result. What I use is the result of this, I then present it in two ways it can be read.

So when prices move to within range of a previous top/bottom I can visually see if pressures are going to push through those levels or if it reverses.

To make it simpler to understand and see, I've then taken the volume, integrated it into determining candle color by the status of volume on each candle. It presents both volume and support/resistance levels and tells you exactly when support/resistance is showing it's head.

Here's the color coding...

Red - Selling Pressure
Yellow - After Green/Blue - Selling Pressure, after Red, Weakening Supply
Blue - After Red/Yellow - Buying support - after Green, Weaking Demand
Greeen - Trend Changing, Buying Pressure
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  • #7,999
  • Dec 24, 2019 5:35am Dec 24, 2019 5:35am
Quoting CarlLaFong
{quote} When you mention flow are you referring to Volume flow?
Previous post details it yes.
The charts are wrong but the world accepts what it doesn't know.
  • #8,000
  • Dec 24, 2019 6:05am Dec 24, 2019 6:05am
Quoting Csfxtrading
{quote} Volume is available, at a steep cost. Data Aggregation, FIX Engines, Filtering - Result. What I use is the result of this, I then present it in two ways it can be read. So when prices move to within range of a previous top/bottom I can visually see if pressures are going to push through those levels or if it reverses. To make it simpler to understand and see, I've then taken the volume, integrated it into determining candle color by the status of volume on each candle. It presents both volume and support/resistance levels and tells you exactly...

I'll note that previous post/chart was all on M1 Timeframe where volume is far more useful than any other time frame.
The charts are wrong but the world accepts what it doesn't know.
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