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  • Dec 17, 2019 1:51am Dec 17, 2019 1:51am
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  • #243
  • Dec 17, 2019 3:34pm Dec 17, 2019 3:34pm
Quoting Ll1979
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Interesting graph. Exports to Mexico are almost certain to continue to grow. I'm not sure about the LNG Export demand. Even if the demand is there, the US is sure to satisfy domestic demand with Natty Gas. The growth in export demand is greater than all the rest combined.
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  • #244
  • Dec 17, 2019 4:18pm Dec 17, 2019 4:18pm
This is a gated story but the headline makes it worth posting. Wow. Natural-Gas Shorts at Highest Level Since Financial Crisis
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  • #245
  • Dec 17, 2019 7:48pm Dec 17, 2019 7:48pm
I was checking in on BB's forecast through 2020 and was very surprised to see NatGas is projected to appreciate through up until the end of Q1, then fall back to where it is now by the end of Q3. Not many bulls as far as NatGas goes.
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  • #246
  • Dec 17, 2019 10:15pm Dec 17, 2019 10:15pm
18 December 2019


Since the gap down earlier this month, price seems to have formed a new support base, Higher daily opens and closes seem to suggest a break out to the upside may be in the "pipe line"........

Looking at these levels with interest for the day ahead...
2.3829
2.3674
2.3281
2.2749
2.2063

Price is above the 200 and so too are the entry and signal line, but they are currently downward slopping as such would like to see price rally and let the entry and signal line slope upwards to begin buying.......
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  • Dec 19, 2019 6:08am Dec 19, 2019 6:08am
Watch out of the smart money accumulating NGAS.

It can head lower, definititely, but SM has started to hedge nicely so far. They'll hedge more as we go down.

If you trade non leverage Gas, ETF, its perfect to accumulate for the long run. For day trading? forget about it

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  • #250
  • Dec 19, 2019 11:09am Dec 19, 2019 11:09am
Quoting kuroro001
Watch out of the smart money accumulating NGAS. It can head lower, definititely, but SM has started to hedge nicely so far. They'll hedge more as we go down. If you trade non leverage Gas, ETF, its perfect to accumulate for the long run. For day trading? forget about it {image}
Even great inventory numbers lasted no more then an hour. NG needs a polar vortex to move upwards i guess (would give a hell of a short squeze).
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  • Dec 19, 2019 11:49pm Dec 19, 2019 11:49pm
Quoting kuroro001
Watch out of the smart money accumulating NGAS. It can head lower, definititely, but SM has started to hedge nicely so far. They'll hedge more as we go down. If you trade non leverage Gas, ETF, its perfect to accumulate for the long run. For day trading? forget about it {image}
Naturally big commercial and industrial users are taking this opportunity to buy forward. They are not necessarily contingent on seasonal factors - eg, food processors, paper and glass manufacturers etc.
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  • Edited 12:24am Dec 20, 2019 12:05am | Edited 12:24am
I am not sure that injections/withdrawals add much information. By definition they must be reasonably close. Any mismatch is ephemeral and fixed pretty quickly (arrgh - tautology Lloyd!) - not minute by minute or even hour by hour, but certainly within a day or so, depending on transmission/distribution configuration. Remember that a lot of gas is actually stored in the high pressure transmission pipes - is this included in storage in the US?
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  • Dec 20, 2019 1:28am Dec 20, 2019 1:28am
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  • Dec 21, 2019 10:09am Dec 21, 2019 10:09am
Quoting Ll1979
{quote} Even great inventory numbers lasted no more then an hour. NG needs a polar vortex to move upwards i guess (would give a hell of a short squeze). {image}
Analysing in a "different" way, here is what we can see.

Its being bought a lot by institutional traders, even though it doesn't make new lows net long positions are increasing which i don't like.
I would say positions need to cool off a bit, as we go down....maybe to new lows i don't know.

Then SM will be ready to bring prices way higher.
Maybe i'm totally wrong and the move has already started....i'll join later if so

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  • #256
  • Dec 22, 2019 5:37am Dec 22, 2019 5:37am
Quoting kuroro001
{quote} Analysing in a "different" way, here is what we can see. Its being bought a lot by institutional traders, even though it doesn't make new lows net long positions are increasing which i don't like. I would say positions need to cool off a bit, as we go down....maybe to new lows i don't know. Then SM will be ready to bring prices way higher. Maybe i'm totally wrong and the move has already started....i'll join later if so {image}
Hey Kuroro...

Nice one Bud.....

Here are my thought on Natty Gas...


The indigo line depicts my thoughts should price find support at the H1 200, given the possible HnS setup thats formed thinking the overhead resistance will pull price back towards that handle, if it doesnt Hold will look to see if the pending inverse HnS setup will support the bullish outlook....

Lets see what the new week brings along, but my thoughts are that the yearly low is in place and we will see some rally and or sideways action going forward...


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  • #257
  • Dec 22, 2019 6:14am Dec 22, 2019 6:14am
Quoting MzansiObi
{quote} Hey Kuroro... Nice one Bud..... Here are my thought on Natty Gas... The indigo line depicts my thoughts should price find support at the H1 200, given the possible HnS setup thats formed thinking the overhead resistance will pull price back towards that handle, if it doesnt Hold will look to see if the pending inverse HnS setup will support the bullish outlook.... Lets see what the new week brings along, but my thoughts are that the yearly low is in place and we will see some rally and or sideways action going forward... Trade safe {image}...
saw this thread .. just posting my chart on NG on dailies. hv been following this for some time ..

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  • Dec 22, 2019 6:36am Dec 22, 2019 6:36am
Quoting prashfx
{quote} saw this thread .. just posting my chart on NG on dailies. hv been following this for some time .. {image}
Hey Prash


Nice looking chart....I see you are picking up on alot of patterns and inside patterns within other patterns, very informative and helpfull,,,Look forward to you sharing more and more of your knowledge on natty Gas and Oil too....
Been keeping tabs on your setups too and i must say they have helped on some setups.....

Heres a chart i shared (Above)on Natty gas.....your thoughts and inputs much appreciate mate....
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  • #259
  • Dec 22, 2019 7:27am Dec 22, 2019 7:27am
Quoting prashfx
{quote} saw this thread .. just posting my chart on NG on dailies. hv been following this for some time .. {image}
Exactly what *is* your chart.

Because people often don't like to label them and it isn't very nice.
  • #260
  • Dec 22, 2019 8:51am Dec 22, 2019 8:51am
Quoting MzansiObi
{quote} Hey Kuroro... Nice one Bud..... Here are my thought on Natty Gas... The indigo line depicts my thoughts should price find support at the H1 200, given the possible HnS setup thats formed thinking the overhead resistance will pull price back towards that handle, if it doesnt Hold will look to see if the pending inverse HnS setup will support the bullish outlook.... Lets see what the new week brings along, but my thoughts are that the yearly low is in place and we will see some rally and or sideways action going forward... Trade safe {image}...
Hi mate,

You may be totally right and there is a chance we don't see any more fall.

When i look closer at the COT report and prices, we can see the the price can't print lower lows, but large speculators are increasing their net longs.

Either i start buying a bit here, a few ETF....or i'll switch to shorting palladium haha
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