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  • #2,141
  • Dec 3, 2019 5:09am Dec 3, 2019 5:09am
Quoting mightymatt
{quote} Hi Johnsmith2nd, I'm in New Zealand so have been using Australian brokers however one by one they have stopped dealing with NZ Customers quoting some new regulation. This forced me to look elsewhere and someone suggested myfx markets. They have been ok but seem to take over a week when you want to withdraw funds and they are registered in some random island country. I also tried to contact them via their phone etc when my withdrawal was taking ages and just got redirected, no one ever phoned back and they just hide behind emails. Doesn't...
Sounds like a good idea to change to CMC markets. They are big and have reputable presence here in the UK too.

After all the horror stories, there is no question about not using offshore brokers. Regulation is vital in this industry and any financial product really.
  • #2,142
  • Dec 14, 2019 11:41pm Dec 14, 2019 11:41pm
Quoting mightymatt
{quote} Hi Johnsmith2nd, I'm in New Zealand so have been using Australian brokers however one by one they have stopped dealing with NZ Customers quoting some new regulation. This forced me to look elsewhere and someone suggested myfx markets. They have been ok but seem to take over a week when you want to withdraw funds and they are registered in some random island country. I also tried to contact them via their phone etc when my withdrawal was taking ages and just got redirected, no one ever phoned back and they just hide behind emails. Doesn't...
LMAX New Zealand is a better choice when it comes to trading costs, spreads and slippage.
CMC is market maker . LMAX is a broker.
Practice makes a person perfect
  • #2,143
  • Dec 17, 2019 5:18am Dec 17, 2019 5:18am
Quoting FxMadness
For those who already found all the Easter eggs here is "Hybrid Stochs Adaptive Current" the latest version with all the best possible triggers. In order to preserve the OP wishes the expiry date is set at the end of this year. If i haven't heard from Magix at that time i will make it a free EA. To get you started also posted MRDFX set file for 5 pairs GU, EJ, AU, EG and AJ with his results shown here https://www.forexfactory.com/mrdfx#acct.45 BACKTEST FIRST ! RUN DEMO SECOND ! Have fun. {file} {file}

Quoting FxMadness
Seeing that i am working on the "one EA multi-pair" version of HSA start spilling out found bugs, likes, dislikes, proposed improvements, ideas, etc here.

Quoting FxMadness
{quote} It is difficult to see but i think i see some discrepancies in the closing logic. So can you upload the set file you used that led to these trades and closes ? Still working on the adaptive EA trying to incorporate my 2014 hedgehog logic which by the way is still in use on some of my traders. To read up on the original hedgehog idea go to https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/magi...edge-t341.html it could be that you have to create an account. Ps. yes account needed.

Hi FxMadness have not heard from you in some time and wanted to follow up on how things are going with the next version of HSA? Did you manage to fix the bugs that were reported and incorporate your ideas highlighted above?

You also mentioned that you would release a non expiry version at the end of the year if you did not hear from David? Have you spoken to him recently? He has not replied to my emails or messages...

I look forward to hearing from you and David and the next version of HSA!
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #2,144
  • Dec 24, 2019 2:11am Dec 24, 2019 2:11am
Quoting mrdfx
{quote} {quote} {quote} Hi FxMadness have not heard from you in some time and wanted to follow up on how things are going with the next version of HSA? Did you manage to fix the bugs that were reported and incorporate your ideas highlighted above? You also mentioned that you would release a non expiry version at the end of the year if you did not hear from David? Have you spoken to him recently? He has not replied to my emails or messages... I look forward to hearing from you and David and the next version of HSA!
Yes mrdfx would be great to get the expiry date removed from the HSA EA
Cheers
Carlos
"All good things to those who wait"
  • #2,145
  • Dec 30, 2019 1:49pm Dec 30, 2019 1:49pm
First time in 12 months. My account has finally tanked after 300% return
Did not expect this.
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  • #2,146
  • Dec 31, 2019 4:41am Dec 31, 2019 4:41am
Quoting johnsmith2nd
First time in 12 months. My account has finally tanked after 300% return Did not expect this. {image}
That's unfortunate to hear johnsmith2nd.

Last year I blew a Hybrid account with 900% profit and after doing some analysis I saw what I did wrong and have not blown a Hybrid account since.

Which version were you using and did you analyze and see what went wrong? Don't worry its a new year and you have plenty of time to learn from this and come back even better.
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #2,147
  • Dec 31, 2019 10:01pm Dec 31, 2019 10:01pm
Hello mrdfx,

I'm running the Hybrid v1.2 and have been running it the last 2 months all thru the Brexit vote in Oct and survived although the drawdown got a little scary initially. Besides having proper lot sizes and number of pairs running (I got 16), what else have you learnt from your analysis after the 900% account crash?
  • #2,148
  • Jan 2, 2020 7:03am Jan 2, 2020 7:03am
Quoting wilson
Hello mrdfx, I'm running the Hybrid v1.2 and have been running it the last 2 months all thru the Brexit vote in Oct and survived although the drawdown got a little scary initially. Besides having proper lot sizes and number of pairs running (I got 16), what else have you learnt from your analysis after the 900% account crash?
Hi wilson, one of the things I learnt was to have enough balance to hold the account in periods of DD. As this is a grid EA there will be periods of DD when Hybrid gets stuck in a trend like what happened to me with EURGBP a few months ago. If I didn't have enough balance per pair it would have hit margin call. To be on the safer side I'd say have at least $500 balance per pair to hold of any DD.

A few other things to consider is using fixed lot instead of Summ lot. It might be slower to recover DD's but its a lot safer. Summ lot can be good when its going good, but get stuck in trend and the DD can add up fast and if you don't have enough balance you'll run out of margin. If you really want to use Summ lot then I'd suggest at least $1000 balance per pair.

Also important is having enough spacing in the grid for those periods of DD. The current default setting of 2 pips is too tight of a grid and orders can get stacked up pretty fast absorbing margin. I use a 20 pip grid and find its a lot better and safer.

This is my advice from using Hybrid live for quite some time now, but if any other users have advice and suggestions I'm happy to hear.

Btw I see that Hybrid Stochs Adaptive Current has expired, FxMadness do you have an update?
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #2,149
  • Jan 2, 2020 7:14am Jan 2, 2020 7:14am
Or use as small lots as possibble, only one pair with big SWAP, and only in positive SWAP direction - i trade USD/CHF LONG more than one year without problem.
  • #2,150
  • Jan 3, 2020 5:02am Jan 3, 2020 5:02am
Quoting mrdfx
{quote} That's unfortunate to hear johnsmith2nd. Last year I blew a Hybrid account with 900% profit and after doing some analysis I saw what I did wrong and have not blown a Hybrid account since. Which version were you using and did you analyze and see what went wrong? Don't worry its a new year and you have plenty of time to learn from this and come back even better.
Thanks for the encouragement. I have yet to sit down and analyse this. I'm still on my Christmas/New Years break, so haven't had the time to crunch this. I do think as you mentioned above exactly that. I changed the settings to summ start, and increased pairs significantly. This was not the original strategy which is a lot more conservative. I am going live in a few days and will be fixed lot 0.01. £400 per pair as a basic. I believe it's a 75 pip step I have too. I will report back.

I am eager to hear from FxMadness!
  • #2,151
  • Jan 7, 2020 8:04am Jan 7, 2020 8:04am
I have finally gone Live with Hybrid after a disastrous end to my 13 months demo run. I have yet to do a full analysis and will post this in due course, but primarily setting the system up with too many pairs and all at summ start, will suck up your margin during draw down, especially with correlated pairs.

I have reverted to fixed lot, with conservative steps. See settings attached. Feel free to comment. Starting off with 1 pair with a deposit of £800. Will add another pair at £1000, keeping a conservative 1 pair per £500. I'll monitor and then potentially adapt if I've been too conservative.

Question to everyone here - do you employ some form of Equity Protection through an EA or other means for a 'just in case' scenario?

Best,

JS
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  • #2,152
  • Jan 7, 2020 8:11am Jan 7, 2020 8:11am
Quoting johnsmith2nd
I have finally gone Live with Hybrid after a disastrous end to my 13 months demo run. I have yet to do a full analysis and will post this in due course, but primarily setting the system up with too many pairs and all at summ start, will suck up your margin during draw down, especially with correlated pairs. I have reverted to fixed lot, with conservative steps. See settings attached. Feel free to comment. Starting off with 1 pair with a deposit of £800. Will add another pair at £1000, keeping a conservative 1 pair per £500. I'll monitor and then...
first of all thanks for sharing your experience and settings, I am going to try to adapt your settings to the latest version, while waiting for the free release of HSA
  • #2,153
  • Jan 7, 2020 9:01am Jan 7, 2020 9:01am
Quoting fabio.g
{quote} first of all thanks for sharing your experience and settings, I am going to try to adapt your settings to the latest version, while waiting for the free release of HSA
Good thing with these settings are they're proven over 11 months of 24/5 automated trading through all kinds of news turmoil. I'd argue a 100%+ return on 11 months, is quite good. Compound this annually and you will be laughing, as well as ensuring you regularly withdraw your profits so you're always guaranteeing a profit. i.e. withdraw 50% of all profit per month. You'll have of course slower gains, but secured profits.
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  • #2,154
  • Jan 7, 2020 9:20am Jan 7, 2020 9:20am
Quoting johnsmith2nd
{quote} Good thing with these settings are they're proven over 11 months of 24/5 automated trading through all kinds of news turmoil. I'd argue a 100%+ return on 11 months, is quite good. Compound this annually and you will be laughing, as well as ensuring you regularly withdraw your profits so you're always guaranteeing a profit. i.e. withdraw 50% of all profit per month. You'll have of course slower gains, but secured profits. {image} {image} {image}
i really hope the free version or versions will be realised, cos i i t too laye on the thread to donate
  • #2,155
  • Jan 7, 2020 10:31am Jan 7, 2020 10:31am
If agreed with all members, and if we don't hear back from FxMadness or Magix. In the spirit of Magix I think we should share the latest version he sent us. I'm worried we won't hear back from him!
  • #2,156
  • Jan 7, 2020 10:50am Jan 7, 2020 10:50am
Quoting johnsmith2nd
If agreed with all members, and if we don't hear back from FxMadness or Magix. In the spirit of Magix I think we should share the latest version he sent us. I'm worried we won't hear back from him!
even his personal forum has been quite in almost a year.
  • #2,157
  • Jan 9, 2020 4:22am Jan 9, 2020 4:22am
Quoting johnsmith2nd
{quote} Good thing with these settings are they're proven over 11 months of 24/5 automated trading through all kinds of news turmoil. I'd argue a 100%+ return on 11 months, is quite good. Compound this annually and you will be laughing, as well as ensuring you regularly withdraw your profits so you're always guaranteeing a profit. i.e. withdraw 50% of all profit per month. You'll have of course slower gains, but secured profits. {image} {image} {image}
Thank you John and mrdfx for sharing your experience. I had some experience running it for nearly a year with a near 3 fold returns but it wasn't realistic as the highest drawdown went up to about 80% using summstart on 1 minute charts with 12 pairs starting on a $25k account. As the most important criteria for this EA is managing the occasional drawdown, I was thinking of manually limiting the number of pairs once a certain number of trades or the first few pairs have started trading. What do you think?
  • #2,158
  • Jan 9, 2020 12:14pm Jan 9, 2020 12:14pm
Quoting wilson
{quote} Thank you John and mrdfx for sharing your experience. I had some experience running it for nearly a year with a near 3 fold returns but it wasn't realistic as the highest drawdown went up to about 80% using summstart on 1 minute charts with 12 pairs starting on a $25k account. As the most important criteria for this EA is managing the occasional drawdown, I was thinking of manually limiting the number of pairs once a certain number of trades or the first few pairs have started trading. What do you think?
I don't see why it wouldn't work, but it would require a lot more monitoring of the computer. This would save you having 1 pair and waiting many days before a trade starts. I think as Mrdfx has alluded to having $500 per pair would be a minimum requirement.

What I need to experiment more with is the static take profit, minimal trailing profit and MACD dynamic. If anyone has anything concrete they've learned with these settings I'd be interested to know.
  • #2,159
  • Jan 10, 2020 4:53am Jan 10, 2020 4:53am
Quoting johnsmith2nd
{quote} I don't see why it wouldn't work, but it would require a lot more monitoring of the computer. This would save you having 1 pair and waiting many days before a trade starts. I think as Mrdfx has alluded to having $500 per pair would be a minimum requirement. What I need to experiment more with is the static take profit, minimal trailing profit and MACD dynamic. If anyone has anything concrete they've learned with these settings I'd be interested to know.
Hi johnsmith2nd, from your post 2151 everything looks pretty good IMO. I would probably increase the step from 75 to 200 but that's me. 7.5 pips is still a pretty tight grid space and personally I've found a 20 pip grid spacing to be better for me.

If you will be trading with 0.01 lots I would also set the minimal trailing profit to 1 and the MACD dynamic and static profit to 5, this will make it easier for the EA to close in profit whilst still making profit.
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #2,160
  • Jan 10, 2020 9:31am Jan 10, 2020 9:31am
Quoting mrdfx
{quote} Hi johnsmith2nd, from your post 2151 everything looks pretty good IMO. I would probably increase the step from 75 to 200 but that's me. 7.5 pips is still a pretty tight grid space and personally I've found a 20 pip grid spacing to be better for me. If you will be trading with 0.01 lots I would also set the minimal trailing profit to 1 and the MACD dynamic and static profit to 5, this will make it easier for the EA to close in profit whilst still making profit.
Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for.

Re the step increase to 200. In your experience, do you find that it takes a lot longer to cancel out and cost average a bad trade, given the larger steps?
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