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  • #881
  • Dec 6, 2019 10:33am Dec 6, 2019 10:33am
Quoting Swede
{quote} Don,t misunderstand please...I totally respect the science and those who can relate their findings and talk fluently about the science......my point is unless it can be quantifiable results by down in the dirt trading, it means little, its just talk. Trading, real trading is the format of FF. Talk is cheap but where are the results of the science. I would like to see real trades being talked about in this forum, where they were taken, why they were taken, what Gann theory triggered the trade in the first place. I don't see much of that.
Swede, Excellent Point.
You NEVER will be the person you could be, without pressure & discipline
  • #882
  • Dec 6, 2019 10:36am Dec 6, 2019 10:36am
1 Year difference between 2 Lows using 2 methodologies
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  • #883
  • Dec 6, 2019 10:59am Dec 6, 2019 10:59am
So, Tesla example is good from a technical standpoint, but did parisboy take a trade based on the analysis he provided....if he did and everything went a planned he probably make a ton of money.....but if he did when fundamentals kicked in....he probably wished he had never heard of Gann and his new job at McDonalds at least pays the bills.....who could predict that Teslas CEO, who professes to the world that he is of the genius class, could make the mistakes he makes it seems on a daily basis.
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  • #884
  • Dec 6, 2019 11:25am Dec 6, 2019 11:25am
Quoting Swede
So, Tesla example is good from a technical standpoint, but did parisboy take a trade based on the analysis he provided....if he did and everything went a planned he probably make a ton of money.....but if he did when fundamentals kicked in....he probably wished he had never heard of Gann and his new job at McDonalds at least pays the bills.....who could predict that Teslas CEO, who professes to the world that he is of the genius class, could make the mistakes he makes it seems on a daily basis. {image}

What do you want to demonstrate ?

my point answering to you and to Pash9 was to show to both of you that you do not need to use sophisticated maths to determine cycles periods.

to Pash9 because he believes sophisticated maths is necessary for analysis and trading

to you because you were playing the poor cowboy of the plains who knows just the arithmetics basis

did I trade Tesla ? No, it was just a graphical example to answer to both of you

did I take a trade according to my analysis resulting of the methodology and the tools I use . Yes

did I follow fundamental analysis No
did I follow news, financial television shows, Trump tweets etc No
did I follow CEO or board decisions even lunatic No

If you had pay some attention to what I posted on this thread and on my thread, you would know that I only use Gann tools and Cyclic Tools (mainly from Hurst)
  • #885
  • Dec 6, 2019 11:30am Dec 6, 2019 11:30am
Pash9

A very interesting book.

do you have access to Awodele’s other works ??

Tks

S.
  • #886
  • Dec 6, 2019 11:35am Dec 6, 2019 11:35am
Parisboy

Thanks for sharing your trading ideas.

Sometimes on this thread there is a little too much theory and not enough practical application
  • #887
  • Dec 6, 2019 11:36am Dec 6, 2019 11:36am
[quote=parisboy; because you were[B] playing the poor cowboy of the plains[/b] who knows just the arithmetics basis did I trade Tesla ? No, it was just a graphical example to answer to both of you did I take a trade according to my analysis resulting of the methodology and the tools I use . Yes

I wasn't playing........ anyway, the point I was trying to make was to get others to actually post their trades....not before taking them, but after and show what made them pull the trigger, what Gann tool did they use to make the trade and why.......

Anyway,..I was not trying to provoke, just challenge to get some actual trades shown....
  • #888
  • Dec 6, 2019 11:46am Dec 6, 2019 11:46am
Swede I do not see your trades too only a range and a Roadmap à la Gann

I am ok with that

Note that for trading GBPUSD I do not care about Brexit, johnson, election etc only aboout the Range and my Envelopes (my Roadmap)
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  • #889
  • Dec 6, 2019 11:50am Dec 6, 2019 11:50am
Quoting Steve666
Parisboy Thanks for sharing your trading ideas. Sometimes on this thread there is a little too much theory and not enough practical application
Steve666

understanding the "theory" build :

- confidence in your tools
- confidence in your analysis

understanding "theory" help you

- to build a roadmap
- to generate scenarii
- to understand the limit of your tools, when it works, when not and why.
  • #890
  • Dec 6, 2019 11:58am Dec 6, 2019 11:58am
Quoting parisboy
{quote} Steve666 understanding the "theory" build : - confidence in your tools - confidence in your analysis understanding "theory" help you - to build a roadmap - to generate scenarii - to understand the limit of your tools, when it works, when not and why.
No disagreement. Not to put too fine a point on this.. We need both.

S.
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  • #891
  • Dec 6, 2019 12:05pm Dec 6, 2019 12:05pm
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  • #892
  • Dec 6, 2019 12:08pm Dec 6, 2019 12:08pm
Quoting Steve666
{quote} No disagreement. Not to put too fine a point on this.. We need both. S. {image}
Steve

Thanks to notice that I am exceptional !
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  • Dec 6, 2019 12:14pm Dec 6, 2019 12:14pm
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  • #894
  • Dec 6, 2019 12:16pm Dec 6, 2019 12:16pm
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  • #895
  • Dec 6, 2019 12:32pm Dec 6, 2019 12:32pm
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  • #896
  • Edited 1:01pm Dec 6, 2019 12:33pm | Edited 1:01pm
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  • #897
  • Dec 6, 2019 2:26pm Dec 6, 2019 2:26pm
Quoting parisboy
{image}
Sir Parisboy ,

Why is my like to ur post not vibrational
I mean not being processed.
  • #898
  • Dec 6, 2019 2:33pm Dec 6, 2019 2:33pm
Quoting parisboy
{image}
Dear Sir Parisboy,

By any chance do u own this book

Gann Science

The Periodic Table & The Law of Vibration

By
Eric Penicka

  • #899
  • Dec 6, 2019 3:07pm Dec 6, 2019 3:07pm
Quoting Pash9
{quote} Dear Sir Parisboy, By any chance do u own this book Gann Science The Periodic Table & The Law of Vibration By Eric Penicka
Pash9 I have not

http://www.sacredscience.com/Penicka...d-Articles.htm

I do not spend 4.500 for a "gann" book
  • #900
  • Edited 3:44pm Dec 6, 2019 3:32pm | Edited 3:44pm
Quoting parisboy
{image}
I noticed this (the top/ bottom slope in relation to trend) after I started using time by degrees. Both dynamic cycle length (the MSJ video dimondminer posted) and slope became of note. And I keep struggling to find the correct fit when the minor trend has just changed and I am following the pattern. I think there must exist a geometric explanation for the rate and positioning of growth. I am not a master of cycles (not that I am a master of anything), but maybe the answer is there. For now I'll keep searching.

After price reaches it's target, it will usually range until time is up, other times price is slow to move and then suddenly it spikes to it's target, makes a line in the sand, whiplashes back and afterwards begins a steady move towards the line in the sand it just made. Time is really the boss here. As WD said.

Anyway, thanks for all the sharing you guys are doing here.

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