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  • #1
  • First Post: Edited 11:17pm Oct 24, 2006 8:23am | Edited 11:17pm
Deleted at nitman's request..
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  • #2
  • Oct 24, 2006 8:44am Oct 24, 2006 8:44am
I've started playing around with Mouteki filters myself on a live account.

Hope your 70% continues. Could you clarify: is this your overall percentage of winning trades or is it the percentage of incorrect trades filtered out?

I look forward to your explanations of the filters and think any explanation should begin with background on your typical trade setups: 4 hr charts or 15 minute charts, etc.

As for method of transmission, I'd like to read a step by step explanation presented in a powerpoint file which I could store on my computer to reference...

Do any other more experienced Mouteki people have input?
  • #3
  • Oct 24, 2006 8:49am Oct 24, 2006 8:49am
Quoting twoblink
I've been forward testing mouteki in warp speed...

I'm currently trading at 50%, and 2:1.

One of the filters I used has prevented entries of about 30% of the mouteki signals, and I note that the filters indeed saved me from a loss.

Two of my losses hit my SL by 2 pips and then rebounded to hit what would have been my TP.. I have no generated filters for them as well.. and will apply them to future trades..

I would love to post the filters, but I'm trying to figure out the best way to explain them.. Screen shots with detailed explainations probably isn't going to cut it.. webinar???

But I just wanted to say, that with the two sets of filters, I think I can move my Mouteki trades to about 70%, up from 30% or so.. That's significant..

I'm more than willing to share, but I'm open to suggestions as the clearest method to share it; as John Madden versions of charts probably aren't enough...
well Twoblink, I think you are very very intellligent (much more than me), and although I personally have a hard time understanding you sometimes, I think if you post it how you think is best, we'll just have to read it line by line and decipher it. I am very interested in what you've come up with.
  • #4
  • Edited 11:18pm Oct 24, 2006 8:50pm | Edited 11:18pm
Deleted at nitman's request
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  • #5
  • Edited 11:19pm Oct 24, 2006 8:51pm | Edited 11:19pm
Deleted at nitman's request
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  • #6
  • Oct 24, 2006 10:50pm Oct 24, 2006 10:50pm
Why are you modifying something that's already working dude. Just use Mouteki's stoploss strategy and not try to find reasons to let your losses run. I think it's cut you losses short and let your profit run ... something like that.
  • #7
  • Edited 11:14pm Oct 24, 2006 11:00pm | Edited 11:14pm
Quoting nitman
Why are you modifying something that's already working dude. Just use Mouteki's stoploss strategy and not try to find reasons to let your losses run. I think it's cut you losses short and let your profit run ... something like that.
I'm not sure moving my stoploss 2 pips is "letting my losses run". But if you say so..

Moving it 2 pips will reduce my loss rate by close to 50%.

With 2 filters, I've been able to move from a 30% or so success rate to close to 70%.


If mouteki straight up is working great for you, then great. You do what you gotta do, I'll do what I gotta do..

If this is a request for me to stop posting my tweaks, mods, and filters, then I am more than happy to oblige..
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  • #8
  • Oct 24, 2006 11:19pm Oct 24, 2006 11:19pm
Quoting nitman
Why are you modifying something that's already working dude. Just use Mouteki's stoploss strategy and not try to find reasons to let your losses run. I think it's cut you losses short and let your profit run ... something like that.

I had originally posted my filters, but pretty much at nitman's request, I've deleted them.

I had originally thought that posting what has been working for me, would be beneficial to the FF community, I apologize..Sorry to have burdened everybody with my writings..
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  • #9
  • Oct 24, 2006 11:21pm Oct 24, 2006 11:21pm
Chill it dude, the force is with you. I enjoy reading your posts, keep them coming.
Quoting twoblink
I'm not sure moving my stoploss 2 pips is "letting my losses run". But if you say so..

Moving it 2 pips will reduce my loss rate by close to 50%.

With 2 filters, I've been able to move from a 30% or so success rate to close to 70%.


If mouteki straight up is working great for you, then great. You do what you gotta do, I'll do what I gotta do..

If this is a request for me to stop posting my tweaks, mods, and filters, then I am more than happy to oblige..
I am JuMPeR.
  • #10
  • Oct 24, 2006 11:26pm Oct 24, 2006 11:26pm
jumper,

Thank you for your support. I work my arse off studying the charts, and trying to give back. I photoshop pics, and edit and reedit my comments to try to be as clear as possible.

I'm more than happy to do so..

BUT, if it is unwelcomed, then why am I doing all this "free" work?

See, I would NEVER get comments like that if I was Vegas or Dial, CHARGING for the info. And that is why they charge for it..

I don't ask for anything in return for all the work I do, but HEAVEN FORBID THAT SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T APPRECIATE ANYTHING I DO ACTUALLY BENEFITS FROM MY WORK.

I can't prevent idiocracy, but I sure as hell can provent them from profiting off of my work..

This has little to do with "chiling out". Because this is a public forum, means I can't control the actions of others, nor the posts of others, but I sure can control MY posts.. and well within my rights to delete them..
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  • #11
  • Oct 24, 2006 11:59pm Oct 24, 2006 11:59pm
Like you said, this is a public forum. If people make comments that are offensive, just ignore them. Why bother to feel anything? You would just be playing into their hands.
I am JuMPeR.
  • #12
  • Oct 25, 2006 12:23am Oct 25, 2006 12:23am
hi...

I think someone has got a bit over excited here...

I did not see anywhere in Nitman's posts to ask you to delete your posts (unless in another thread I have not read ) so dont go using his comments as your reason....He is allowed an opinion in this forum also and nobody said you have to agree with it....his Post started out.." Why are you "..that sounds like a question to me and nothing else...
I made similar comments a week or so ago because people where trying to add indicators when they had not given the original method a good try as yet..and as such had no idea what was going wrong ( if anything ) on a consistant basis...so what were they fixing was my only concern.

Everyones posts are welcome here and if they are a good read and generate some thought in others thats even better...even if the others don't fully agree.
  • #13
  • Oct 25, 2006 12:28am Oct 25, 2006 12:28am
Because it ups the %wins from 30% to close to 70%...


Naw.. in hindsight, it's all my fault..

Quoting Angler
hi...

I think someone has got a bit over excited here...

I did not see anywhere in Nitman's posts to ask you to delete your posts (unless in another thread I have not read ) so dont go using his comments as your reason....He is allowed an opinion in this forum also and nobody said you have to agree with it....his Post started out.." Why are you "..that sounds like a question to me and nothing else...
I made similar comments a week or so ago because people where trying to add indicators when they had not given the original method a good try as yet..and as such had no idea what was going wrong ( if anything ) on a consistant basis...so what were they fixing was my only concern.

Everyones posts are welcome here and if they are a good read and generate some thought in others thats even better...even if the others don't fully agree.
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  • #14
  • Oct 25, 2006 12:34am Oct 25, 2006 12:34am
Quoting twoblink
Because it ups the %wins from 30% to close to 70%...


Naw.. in hindsight, it's all my fault..
Oh my twoblink, why are you deleting your posts. I am sure there are alot of us newbie are silently reading your filters......... well, thank you for posting them.... I guess i was a few lucky lads who have read your posts before you deleting them.. anyway, thanks
  • #15
  • Oct 25, 2006 12:35am Oct 25, 2006 12:35am
hi...


Yep I can agree with that...but when I had made my comments a while back there really had not been enough testing ( as far as I knew ) to determine that win/loss rate...but now a few more trade have gone thru so yes a tweak here and a tweak there...30% to 50% is even a reasonable jump to add to the profit line..
  • #16
  • Oct 25, 2006 12:46am Oct 25, 2006 12:46am
Damnation, I only read your posts twice Twoblinks and was going to come back to them - they were fascinating - please repost them for those of us who appreciate your thoughts and ideas!!!
  • #17
  • Oct 25, 2006 12:54am Oct 25, 2006 12:54am
I second the notion. Why do some of you people bother the brother so much? You make people like twoblink think twice about posting comments. Let the posts roll twoblink. We appreciate them.
  • #18
  • Oct 25, 2006 1:31am Oct 25, 2006 1:31am
Oh no, I see a twoblink fan club coming for twoblinkers. Put together some powerpoints and maybe you will get your niche forum too.
I am JuMPeR.
  • #19
  • Oct 25, 2006 2:10am Oct 25, 2006 2:10am
2B...I dont' think I've ever read about your using oscillators...
TULKAS
  • #20
  • Oct 25, 2006 3:02am Oct 25, 2006 3:02am
twoblink I am sure many people would greatly appreciate you sharing what you have and for those that dont, then just ignore them as best you can. Dont take what some people may have to say too seriously.
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