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  • #7,821
  • Oct 20, 2019 10:18am Oct 20, 2019 10:18am
Quoting MiyagiFX
{quote} I took this trade too, don't think it broke many rules though, reacting to W1 and D1 DZ, look for buys, momentum TL hadn't been broken by the time price came back to that zone...I took 3:1 profit...will edit this post later with an image when I get home
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This was the trade that I took.

The reason why my TP wasnt larger than 3:1 was because when I set the trade (see image below of the D1 TF)...

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the D1 SZ marked #1 had not been removed, so my TP was at the proximal line of the D1 SZ, and because I hadn't done my analysis on that pair for a few days after, I didn't realise that the D1 SZ had been taken out and therefore I could have set my TP higher (I had a busy week and was unable to check all my charts on a consistent basis)
  • #7,822
  • Oct 21, 2019 12:27am Oct 21, 2019 12:27am
So the big question i have for you AKT .... is this ...
Once we found our "Curve" Supply or Demand .... The next step is dropping on our Entry Timeframe ... this is the part i'm a lil confuse and some people on the thread are too..
I want to know what is more important once price is in our curve timeframe.
1. The shift of MML being broken
or
2. Price Took out stack of opposing Level
Because what i am noticing from backtesting is that ... # 1 can happen and no stack of orders are taken out (#2), but the trade works perfectly.
on the other hand #2 can happen without #1 (shift of MM ) happening and the trade also works out.
what i'm trying to ask is this ... Do we always wait for #1 and #2 to happen at the same time ?or can we take the trade with #1 being complete without #2 vice versa.

In your eyes which is the most important ... #1 or #2
  • #7,823
  • Oct 21, 2019 12:37am Oct 21, 2019 12:37am
@AKT ... A.K.A Micheal .... A.K.A the supply and demand Magician .... A.K.A THE GENUIS ...

I was wondering if you can give more examples of finding the best " imbalances " for Curve for Intra-day Traders (asking on the behalf of the new traders) ...
It'll be pretty cool if you did that ... showing us the mechanics that Bleeze also displays thanks to you back in 2016 .
Using the H4 timeframe as "Curve" and dropping str8 to the 15min/5min chart.
Showing and explain when would be the "prime" time to Jump in a trade.
Realize that you can do it on any timeframe you want
H1--->5 min
H4--->15min
1D---> 5 min
1D---->15 min
Just find your perfect picture .. i guess i want to know the EXACT PRIME MOMENT TO GET IN on that "entry Timeframe " if ya know what i mean
Thanks AKT FOR THE ANSWER IN ADVANCE ...
I know you don't answer your DM in private (probably too busy) so i guess i'll ask in public
Oh yeah you can answer me too @THEROUNDTABLE
  • #7,824
  • Oct 21, 2019 4:07am Oct 21, 2019 4:07am
hi all, why you not created a telegram group? i think is good idea to created a telegram group. for shares ideas and charts
  • #7,825
  • Oct 21, 2019 4:18am Oct 21, 2019 4:18am
Quoting ChickenMan11
So the big question i have for you AKT .... is this ... Once we found our "Curve" Supply or Demand .... The next step is dropping on our Entry Timeframe ... this is the part i'm a lil confuse and some people on the thread are too.. I want to know what is more important once price is in our curve timeframe. 1. The shift of MML being broken or 2. Price Took out stack of opposing Level Because what i am noticing from backtesting is that ... # 1 can happen and no stack of orders are taken out (#2), but the trade works perfectly. on the other hand #2...
Hi ChickenMan11

When price hits your HTF zone, it invalidates your entryTF MML and we should wait for opposing entry TF S/D zones to be removed to show that buyers/sellers are coming into the market confirming your HTF zone is in control and then we can set a trade. You can still use your entry TF MML to assess whether buyers/sellers are coming into the market with a zone being formed with the break of the MML, but it is a more aggressive trade to take without having opposing zone taken out first. The removal of zones is more powerful than a MML break in assessing whether we have a change in direction. It is all a matter of preference....if price hits my curve TF zone (W1) and we have a MML break on my entry TF (4h) but with no zone removed, I was to see a good impulse move away before price returns to the zone that broke the TL otherwise I just stay away until we get a 3:1 clear opportunity.

You can use #1 or/and #2, just have rules on how you will use them.

Hope that helps

MiyagiFX
  • #7,826
  • Oct 21, 2019 4:39am Oct 21, 2019 4:39am
Good morning guys,

I started reading all the material on this thread and also watched many of AKTs YouTube videos. I thought I had everything under control and understood the methods used to trade S.A.D, but then last week came and everything fell apart for me. I feel lost at the moment and trying to find my way to understand S.A.D trading.

I would really appreciate it if anyone can help me understand S.A.D trading, step by step from the beginning. I like methods to be broken down, because my mind is just wired that way. After many years of trading Forex (on and off), I eventually stumbled across this fantastic concept which I think resonates well with me.

I really need some help here please guys.

Much appreciated.
  • #7,827
  • Oct 22, 2019 5:45am Oct 22, 2019 5:45am
Quoting MiyagiFX
{quote} Hi ChickenMan11 When price hits your HTF zone, it invalidates your entryTF MML and we should wait for opposing entry TF S/D zones to be removed to show that buyers/sellers are coming into the market confirming your HTF zone is in control and then we can set a trade. You can still use your entry TF MML to assess whether buyers/sellers are coming into the market with a zone being formed with the break of the MML, but it is a more aggressive trade to take without having opposing zone taken out first. The removal of zones is more powerful than...


Hmmm thank you bruv .... but another question ... why would it invalidate my MML on my Entry TF once its inside my Curve ?
  • #7,828
  • Oct 22, 2019 7:13am Oct 22, 2019 7:13am
it its very helpfull, thank you
  • #7,829
  • Oct 22, 2019 7:49am Oct 22, 2019 7:49am
Quoting ChickenMan11
{quote} Hmmm thank you bruv .... but another question ... why would it invalidate my MML on my Entry TF once its inside my Curve ?
Hi ChickenMan11

It doesn't necessarily invalidate the MML...maybe I chose my words wrong. In essence when you are at HTF zone, and you haven't got an original entry TF zone to S&F at, then you need a confirmation; this is where you want to see buyers/sellers coming into the market to confirm your HTF zone is now in control and isn't going to be removed. To do this it is best to wait for an opposing entry TF zone to be removed first confirming that the HTF zone is in control, but a more aggressive approach is to use the MML to see these sellers/buyers coming into the market, but you would want to see a nice impulse to break said MML giving you PM to set a trade.

Somebody can correct me if I am wrong, but that is what I like to see....

MiyagiFX
  • #7,830
  • Oct 22, 2019 8:51am Oct 22, 2019 8:51am
Hello AKT and Everyone, my thoughts on AUDUSD, and i think its an example of a confirmation trade you were talking about MiyagiFX, but profit margin not too large
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Corrections and advice are very welcome

Thanks.
  • #7,831
  • Oct 22, 2019 9:13am Oct 22, 2019 9:13am
Quoting Diddyy
Hello AKT and Everyone, my thoughts on AUDUSD, and i think its an example of a confirmation trade you were talking about MiyagiFX, but profit margin not too large{image}{image}{image} Corrections and advice are very welcome Thanks.
Hi Diddyy

There is a little DBD zone that removed that 1h DZ you are referring to so if price breaks back above that then you will have another DZ lowering your TP. Maybe wait for the lower DZ to be removed as that created a strongish impulse to the upside and where the final push came from. Once that lower DZ is broken it is all compressed price and large ERC candles below until the next DZ, great for price to just drop through. The SZ is Okish, I just don't like the look of the wick of the exiting candle so would be reluctant to place a trade there atm. You also have some medium AUD news in 6hrs so price could get a little volatile and you are in a decision area where it could go anywhere, another reason I would hold fire atm. Just my thoughts.

MiyagiFX
  • #7,832
  • Oct 22, 2019 11:35pm Oct 22, 2019 11:35pm
Hello Friends ,

There was a textbook S/D entry for Nasdaq yesterday , I missed it, hope some of you are in the trade now ,

Best ,
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  • #7,833
  • Oct 23, 2019 1:55am Oct 23, 2019 1:55am
Quoting MiyagiFX
{quote} Hi Diddyy There is a little DBD zone that removed that 1h DZ you are referring to so if price breaks back above that then you will have another DZ lowering your TP. Maybe wait for the lower DZ to be removed as that created a strongish impulse to the upside and where the final push came from. Once that lower DZ is broken it is all compressed price and large ERC candles below until the next DZ, great for price to just drop through. The SZ is Okish, I just don't like the look of the wick of the exiting candle so would be reluctant to place...

Thank you MiyagiFX
  • #7,834
  • Oct 23, 2019 2:00am Oct 23, 2019 2:00am
hello,

AUDUSD short term income trade i took off the daily supply area....entry was on h1..

cheers
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cut your losses short and let your profit run
  • #7,835
  • Oct 23, 2019 3:03am Oct 23, 2019 3:03am
Hi AKT & MiyagiFX
I am a new member in https://www.storehouseanalytics.com/
with User name: tuantm1959
Weekly Roundtable Meetings at STORE HOUSE ANALYTICS LTD.
-
What would i begin ?
When is the weekly roundtable start ?
Please help me.
Tuantm
  • #7,836
  • Oct 23, 2019 3:13am Oct 23, 2019 3:13am
Quoting tuantm
Hi AKT & MiyagiFX I am a new member in https://www.storehouseanalytics.com/ with User name: tuantm1959 Weekly Roundtable Meetings at STORE HOUSE ANALYTICS LTD. - What would i begin ? When is the weekly roundtable start ? Please help me. Tuantm
Hi tuantm

I am not a member of either so I can't help you out. Sorry.

MiyagiFX
  • #7,837
  • Oct 23, 2019 7:13pm Oct 23, 2019 7:13pm
Is there any equity sexier than Walgreens - where ppl get their PrepH and Tinactin?

WBA is showing some daily timeframe signs of life. I think it's into some monthly RBR demand with some Weekly zones stacked within it.
Please lemme know if you think my reasoning is sound or if I'm just looking at a Bear Flag ( DBD zone) on the weekly?
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  • #7,838
  • Edited 12:46am Oct 24, 2019 12:31am | Edited 12:46am
Quoting bleeze
hello, AUDUSD short term income trade i took off the daily supply area....entry was on h1.. cheers {image} {image}
when you have multiple 1hr zones coming from a daily, how do you justify which ones to take? Typically taking the origin of the move is the "Safest" in my opinion, but I don't want to miss out on big moves.

edit: it looks like you have entered right away without checking if an opposing zone was taken out, or a 2:1 move away. just trying to understand your rational.
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  • #7,839
  • Oct 24, 2019 12:41am Oct 24, 2019 12:41am
Quoting Jefefx93
Hi everyone, I've joined this thread a while ago but i was going through a life event experience that was pretty rough thus have not posted. Reviewing few pages you people are killing it! Well done! What i know so far is that less time spent at a level (i like to use 3-6 candles) before advancing (HH,HL or LH LL) will be a zone. I use 3:1 risk reward. I may use a fibonacci (I DO NOT BELIEVE IN THEM NUMBERS FOR THEIR INTENDED USE) i draw and measure 50% to take profit. Stop loss is 10 pips away from the zone. TF i use at the moment is W,D,4H,1H....
Jefefx,

Basing at or near the extreme of a pivot high or low is a RBD or DBR zone respectively.

When there is a pivot and NO base near the extreme of the pivot, but instead a base that forms after the move gets going - that's a DBD or RBR zone in that timeframe.

There are only 4 types of zones.
  • #7,840
  • Oct 24, 2019 3:37am Oct 24, 2019 3:37am
Quoting bleeze
hello, AUDUSD short term income trade i took off the daily supply area....entry was on h1.. cheers {image} {image}

Right with ya ...

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What up with AKT ? he don't seem to be active as much as before . ... are you okay ?
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