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  • #32,281
  • Oct 11, 2019 11:29am Oct 11, 2019 11:29am
potential testing on dow ....30 low volume
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  • #32,282
  • Oct 11, 2019 11:31am Oct 11, 2019 11:31am
some weakness on the 30 appearing on gold .. smart money may be moving it before good news

if it takes off to upside no big deal .. good news on trade talks comes 1457 here we come
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  • #32,283
  • Oct 11, 2019 11:35am Oct 11, 2019 11:35am
Quoting malcolmb14
potential testing on dow ....30 low volume {image}
crap .. i had a sell based on the two bar reversal it did not go anywhere , closed it for 25 point and then it does a 130 point shake out
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  • #32,284
  • Oct 11, 2019 11:37am Oct 11, 2019 11:37am
It's good to see some activity in this thread again. There's been some nice charts and discussions. Let's keep it going.

If you've watched the most recent TradeGuider videos (and you should be watching. You just have to deal with the sells-pitch stuff, but there is real VSA information to be learned), you probably heard Gavin mention this:

A No Demand followed by a Test in an Up Trend.....

HVZ' was the High Volume Zone at the time of the trade. It was replaced by HVZ during the trade. HVZ' is shown just to complete the picture at the time of trade.

I did not wait for confirmation of the Test. I entered when price traded above the high of the Test interval on what turned out to be a Level 2 Buying Aggression Bar (Climber).

You want foresight and not hindsight? Well, I submit to you that this pattern (Break Out above the trigger number followed by a low volume bar ((Test or No Supply) back towards the trigger) was mentioned as far back as 2014. Argo, if you had learned the pattern five years ago, you would have been ready to take the trade today. It doesn't get much more "foresight" than that in my book.

And the No Demand followed by a Test, that was mentioned in the video that is at least three weeks old.

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  • Oct 11, 2019 11:42am Oct 11, 2019 11:42am
this is whats unfolding in dow .... 500 spring into close ?
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  • #32,286
  • Oct 11, 2019 11:48am Oct 11, 2019 11:48am
urgent watch for big money

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  • #32,287
  • Oct 11, 2019 11:54am Oct 11, 2019 11:54am
Quoting HiddenGap
It's good to see some activity in this thread again.
You've been killing it.
  • #32,288
  • Oct 11, 2019 12:48pm Oct 11, 2019 12:48pm
Quoting malcolmb14
urgent watch for big money https://youtu.be/9qVBGbicb00
in my mind .... this is how that shale out played out ... hits ny buy stop and goes 150 into profit...

lol instead it hit my buy order and went 40 pip into draw down
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  • #32,289
  • Oct 11, 2019 1:58pm Oct 11, 2019 1:58pm
Quoting malcolmb14
{quote} in my mind .... this is how that shale out played out ... hits ny buy stop and goes 150 into profit... lol instead it hit my buy order and went 40 pip into draw down
Happens to us all.

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  • #32,290
  • Oct 11, 2019 2:03pm Oct 11, 2019 2:03pm
Quoting Anotan
{quote} Happens to us all. September I couldn't make money to save my life. October has been good so far.
lol ... after the shake out the buy is 99 percent sure to work ... currently now 50 pip in profit ... but in my mind I saw it just shooting up 200 pip through my buy
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  • Oct 12, 2019 12:40am Oct 12, 2019 12:40am
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  • Oct 12, 2019 12:50am Oct 12, 2019 12:50am
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  • Oct 12, 2019 10:51am Oct 12, 2019 10:51am
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  • #32,294
  • Oct 12, 2019 10:21pm Oct 12, 2019 10:21pm
Quoting HiddenGap
{quote} There are a couple of ways to calculate it. (1) A WR7 bar can have a greater range than the last 6 bars; OR (2) A WR7 bar can be the largest range in the last 7 (inclusive). So if your look back is 7 intervals not including the WRB, you have a WR8, not WR7. I believe Toby Crabel famously penned a book with Linda Raschke where they introduced the "power" of WR7s and NR4s & NR7s. I haven't read it though.

Thanks for the clarification HiddenGap. I'll return the favor when possible.

Trade well.
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  • #32,295
  • Oct 13, 2019 2:44am Oct 13, 2019 2:44am
Quoting HiddenGap
It's good to see some activity in this thread again. There's been some nice charts and discussions. Let's keep it going. If you've watched the most recent TradeGuider videos (and you should be watching. You just have to deal with the sells-pitch stuff, but there is real VSA information to be learned), you probably heard Gavin mention this: A No Demand followed by a Test in an Up Trend..... HVZ' was the High Volume Zone at the time of the trade. It was replaced by HVZ during the trade. HVZ' is shown just to complete the picture at the time of trade....
great post

what new people to vsa fail to understand is that in any UP trend there will be sow .... like no demands or uhv bars closing off high ... but overall trend is up and once we get a wide spread bar ( wider than prior bars ) you mark top and bottom and those are your triggers . You look for break outs and test of those WITH THE TREND

tops and bottlms are also easy to trade but they requore a very specific specific set up

in gold for example upthrust on a 30 min work 90 percent of the time ... once you see one look for further sow to confirm

on indexs I like to use shake outs or testing after a shake out for entry on a 30 min chart. Last week there were some sexy ones on the open of Dax
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  • Oct 13, 2019 10:37pm Oct 13, 2019 10:37pm
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  • #32,297
  • Oct 14, 2019 6:38am Oct 14, 2019 6:38am
Since i am fairly new to VSA, currently reading the book. This really is seems to be a false rally, considering the low volume uphill and might be heading to a spring move then down as Malcolm explained in the videos over the weekend. Correct me if I am wrong Malcolm. Thanks in advance!
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  • #32,298
  • Oct 14, 2019 7:14am Oct 14, 2019 7:14am
Quoting GPetroff
Since i am fairly new to VSA, currently reading the book. This really is seems to be a false rally, considering the low volume uphill and might be heading to a spring move then down as Malcolm explained in the videos over the weekend. Correct me if I am wrong Malcolm. Thanks in advance! {image}
That's a really interesting chart, I can't really trade gold so I don't look at it often.

A. Stopping volume, sizeable increase in volume from the previous bar.
B. Potential Buying, nice close off the lows there was some buying on this bar.
C. No selling pressure, nice how price rejected closing lower than the close of bar A, bar A being where buyers first started stepping in.
D. Hidden Test.
E. In VSA, when weakness does appear it appears on up bars. Looks like supply is starting to come in at the close of Bar E.

I've been reading a lot of Pres78's posts. I'm not really into his VZA but he gives out soo much great information about VSA and trading in general. I like his philosophy that he wants to see tests, actually test something.
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  • #32,299
  • Oct 14, 2019 7:22am Oct 14, 2019 7:22am
Wyckoff told - think in waves

Here is a wave analysis using VSA Principles.
I use Oil futures market from Moscow exchange.

We have 2 waves
1) This is the first wave, It has volume 1.35m contracts and 3.4% progress
2) The second wave gained 1.7% progress with a bit higher volume 1.42m

Buyers "spent" more efforts (seen by volume) but with fewer gains (result). Volume&Price tells us - this is a zone of resistance (supply). So, we were warned about a possible decline. This is a principles from "End of Rising Market" VSA Signal.

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3) As a consequence of Weak action on Friday, Monday has opened with a big gap down.
4) Note how the buying volume decreases on tiny up-wave. This is No-Demand.

5) Genuine Supply pressure

While price holds below level of Sellers activity (black line) - the situation is bearish.
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  • #32,300
  • Oct 14, 2019 7:25am Oct 14, 2019 7:25am
Quoting Anotan
{quote} That's a really interesting chart, I can't really trade gold so I don't look at it often. A. Stopping volume, sizeable increase in volume from the previous bar. B. Potential Buying, nice close off the lows there was some buying on this bar. C. No selling pressure, nice how price rejected closing lower than the close of bar A, bar A being where buyers first started stepping in. D. Hidden Test. E. In VSA, when weakness does appear it appears on up bars. Looks like supply is starting to come in at the close of Bar E. I've been reading a lot...
I understand it nearly the same way, the "a" point is also called absorption candle or stopping volume as you described it. And yea, from my observation all tests are low volume.
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