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  • #6,961
  • Oct 9, 2019 9:07am Oct 9, 2019 9:07am
Quoting Toastmaster
{quote} I had this for 3 consecutive days. try this: 1. load a chart without any indicator or template 2. attach your EA 3. put the settings on your EA manually instead of using preset files you should be good to go. it worked for me. https://www.myfxbook.com/members/toastmaster/rba-system/3559910/O2PYNK39IvwDrV9rBwCa
Did not work for me but thanks anyway
  • #6,962
  • Oct 9, 2019 4:06pm Oct 9, 2019 4:06pm
Quoting MarkStep
{quote} Did not work for me but thanks anyway
@MarkStep -- I can not reproduce the problem -- I can buy, sell and close from the dashboardEA. Have you checked the error log? Have you checked the other conditions that would ignore a trade request? Do you allow DLL imiports? Do you allow AutoTrading?
  • #6,963
  • Oct 9, 2019 7:48pm Oct 9, 2019 7:48pm
Quoting robots4me
{quote} @MarkStep -- I can not reproduce the problem -- I can buy, sell and close from the dashboardEA. Have you checked the error log? Have you checked the other conditions that would ignore a trade request? Do you allow DLL imiports? Do you allow AutoTrading?
Yep fixed it, Problem was I did not allow auto trading on my bad. Thank for the help.
  • #6,964
  • Oct 10, 2019 7:37am Oct 10, 2019 7:37am
Quoting Simontw
Loving the new BDX...the exits are working really well. I trust you all seen USDJPY but thought to post it just in case...it is sometimes frustrating to get taken out with small win/loss but so far this is doing it really well saving us from deep drawdown. Thanks to all involved EDIT - I am referring to the buy signal and subsequent exit before the drop. {image}
Was this triggered by HAS exit or CC?
  • #6,965
  • Oct 10, 2019 6:22pm Oct 10, 2019 6:22pm
Quoting MarkStep
{quote} Was this triggered by HAS exit or CC?
CC Exit triggered it.
  • #6,966
  • Oct 10, 2019 7:17pm Oct 10, 2019 7:17pm
Quoting MarkStep
{quote} Was this triggered by HAS exit or CC?
The example I posted was a HAS Exit.
EX BBMA trader focusing on REE code.
  • #6,967
  • Edited 7:26am Oct 11, 2019 7:07am | Edited 7:26am
Anybody run the latest BDX this week at 50%ADR H1 with a close at midline? No HAS or CC exit. (Also interested to hear from anyone using the previous BD version)
I ran it with HAS and it been a crazy week due to GBP pairs.
But just wondering how you did since start of October.
I am weighing up the pros cons of early exit versus letting it run to either profit or SL.

I am down overall since start of month using HAS exits. So starting to think as much as I like the idea of the early exits, it is actually more profitable overall to leave it to go to exit at midline or TP as we previously did. As even with previous losses the hit rate to tp was high enough to offset and recover.

I am going to open another account using exit at midline, no early exit for next week.
EX BBMA trader focusing on REE code.
  • #6,968
  • Oct 11, 2019 10:42am Oct 11, 2019 10:42am
Quoting Simontw
Anybody run the latest BDX this week at 50%ADR H1 with a close at midline? No HAS or CC exit. (Also interested to hear from anyone using the previous BD version) I ran it with HAS and it been a crazy week due to GBP pairs. But just wondering how you did since start of October. I am weighing up the pros cons of early exit versus letting it run to either profit or SL. I am down overall since start of month using HAS exits. So starting to think as much as I like the idea of the early exits, it is actually more profitable overall to leave it to go to...
Yes I did that my friend...AllPairs EA BDX H1 ADR50 close TP ADR 0.5 or only Midline Cross (no HAS/CC), but I set a money target of 80-100 EUR. The reason for that is very simple. With Midline Cross close you get just limited profits because you are unable to let profits run. Hence I'm not always in the market and moreover save swap costs.
Therefore I would prefer to get an Opposite Band closing as an additional option too... at least for testing purposes. Unfortunately and obviously R4M don't like such a function.
Another possibility could be for semi-auto trading without any specific exit feature to enter by EA and manually close on your TP.

Happy Weekend, jdva
I never lose - either I win or I learn...
  • #6,969
  • Oct 11, 2019 11:04am Oct 11, 2019 11:04am
Quoting jdva
{quote} Yes I did that my friend...AllPairs EA BDX H1 ADR50 close TP ADR 0.5 or only Midline Cross (no HAS/CC), but I set a money target of 80-100 EUR. The reason for that is very simple. With Midline Cross close you get just limited profits because you are unable to let profits run. Hence I'm not always in the market and moreover save swap costs. Therefore I would prefer to get an Opposite Band closing as an additional option too... at least for testing purposes. Unfortunately and obviously R4M don't like such a function. Another possibility could...
Thanks @jdva

I think one of the previous versions had the opposite band option.
I am happy with mid line so will test with no early cexit.
EX BBMA trader focusing on REE code.
  • #6,970
  • Oct 11, 2019 11:39am Oct 11, 2019 11:39am
So...

I had a plan: go on without GPBs... everything was fine until yesterday. Two weeks of very low DD and decent profit, 30% up in my real account since 9 September, up and down this week, but never dramatic (1 to 2% of DD). A week in profit, anyway (5%). Ready to change from 0.01 to 0.02 lots.

But yesterday I had a very bad idea: GBPs again, in the EA. A bloodbath, my friends... 50% of my profit, evaporated in few hours (with 0.01 lots...).

Lesson learned. Start to building again without GBPs.

I've tried to observe some filter for entries, like a fast Hi Lo median moving average, or pivots with fibo levels, but I don't think this can improve the system. My best option, for now, is avoiding GBPs. Or we can try to use others parameters for them, like a 75 - 80 ADR in H1. I'll try in a demo account, just GBPs with modified parameters...

I'll let you know...

Have a nice weekend.

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  • #6,971
  • Oct 11, 2019 2:29pm Oct 11, 2019 2:29pm
Can you advice me someone, please?

I use newest version of R4M BDX AllPairs (default settings, H4),
I have marked "allow dll", " allow real trading" in EA and enabled "auto trading" in MetaTrader,
but from Monday was not open any trade, and in logs I have alert about signal, but it is not open..

Before Monday was every thing good..
I tested older version of EA, same result..
I change account of Metatrader, same result..
I change computer, same result..

I do not understand what happends..

thanks for help..
  • #6,972
  • Oct 11, 2019 4:25pm Oct 11, 2019 4:25pm
Quoting piko
Can you advice me someone, please? I use newest version of R4M BDX AllPairs (default settings, H4), I have marked "allow dll", " allow real trading" in EA and enabled "auto trading" in MetaTrader, but from Monday was not open any trade, and in logs I have alert about signal, but it is not open.. Before Monday was every thing good.. I tested older version of EA, same result.. I change account of Metatrader, same result.. I change computer, same result.. I do not understand what happends.. thanks for help..
@piko -- check the printed log under the 'Experts' tab -- it may provide a clue.
  • #6,973
  • Oct 11, 2019 4:34pm Oct 11, 2019 4:34pm
Hi R3d

what settings have you been using?

I’ve been trying
tp 0.12
sl 0.3
H1
50% adr

results have been somewhat mixed so far. I was up for the week until today.

best wishes

RT

Quoting R3d
So... I had a plan: go on without GPBs... everything was fine until yesterday. Two weeks of very low DD and decent profit, 30% up in my real account since 9 September, up and down this week, but never dramatic (1 to 2% of DD). A week in profit, anyway (5%). Ready to change from 0.01 to 0.02 lots. But yesterday I had a very bad idea: GBPs again, in the EA. A bloodbath, my friends... 50% of my profit, evaporated in few hours (with 0.01 lots...). Lesson learned. Start to building again without GBPs. I've tried to observe some filter for entries, like...
  • #6,974
  • Oct 11, 2019 4:40pm Oct 11, 2019 4:40pm
Quoting robots4me
{quote} @piko -- check the printed log under the 'Experts' tab -- it may provide a clue.
of course, I checked it, but no information what help me..
  • #6,975
  • Oct 11, 2019 5:18pm Oct 11, 2019 5:18pm
Quoting R3d
So... I had a plan: go on without GPBs... everything was fine until yesterday. Two weeks of very low DD and decent profit, 30% up in my real account since 9 September, up and down this week, but never dramatic (1 to 2% of DD). A week in profit, anyway (5%). Ready to change from 0.01 to 0.02 lots. But yesterday I had a very bad idea: GBPs again, in the EA. A bloodbath, my friends... 50% of my profit, evaporated in few hours (with 0.01 lots...). Lesson learned. Start to building again without GBPs. I've tried to observe some filter for entries, like...
Can I humbly ask why you are banging your head against a wall?

You know exactly why things went wrong - it's simply the wrong time to trade GBP - it happens. You know things will come back once the UK uncertainty passes.

So why are you insisting on trying to force something that you have no control over to change to suit you (and the method)?

Take a large step back, a deep breath, look at how awesome things were going before your stubbornness took over and accept it as a waste of your valuable time. Stop trying to change the unchanchable and get back on track making money.
  • #6,976
  • Edited 7:11pm Oct 11, 2019 6:35pm | Edited 7:11pm
Quoting R3d
So... I had a plan: go on without GPBs... everything was fine until yesterday. Two weeks of very low DD and decent profit, 30% up in my real account since 9 September, up and down this week, but never dramatic (1 to 2% of DD). A week in profit, anyway (5%). Ready to change from 0.01 to 0.02 lots. But yesterday I had a very bad idea: GBPs again, in the EA. A bloodbath, my friends... 50% of my profit, evaporated in few hours (with 0.01 lots...). Lesson learned. Start to building again without GBPs. I've tried to observe some filter for entries, like...
The system we have is good. You cannot filter for everything as you end up getting nothing in the end. Filtering GBP pairs at 75-80%ADR is not going to help as many of them went over 200adr yesterday.
My only suggestion is you use BD 1440 40%ADR as when it adjusts for the next day you often find the blue midline above your sell entry so you know to just close those trades early.

For BDX I have decided to not use early exits and go with making a profit while I can relying on the edge the ADR gives us. But there will always be days like this, as long as we up at end of the month it is all good.
EX BBMA trader focusing on REE code.
  • #6,977
  • Oct 11, 2019 9:07pm Oct 11, 2019 9:07pm
Quoting robots4me
{quote} @alblive -- I understand there are a variety of ways to tweak a strategy -- and that applies to ALL strategies. And in the end it's the tweaking that's almost always their downfall. So we're not claiming the current trade logic is the best-of-the-best but, rather, it achieves a sweet-spot for multiple pairs across multiple time frames. So, we locked it down. Yes, exiting at the opposite band can yield a bigger win -- except when it doesn't. The problem is you never know in advance when to let it run to the opposite band. For every trade...
You guys are on the cutting edge of trading, and that is automation. There is an old engineering saying that the more moving parts a thing has, the more likely it is to break. Simple is always best. Mechanical. Methodical.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #6,978
  • Oct 11, 2019 9:20pm Oct 11, 2019 9:20pm
Quoting piko
Can you advice me someone, please? I use newest version of R4M BDX AllPairs (default settings, H4), I have marked "allow dll", " allow real trading" in EA and enabled "auto trading" in MetaTrader, but from Monday was not open any trade, and in logs I have alert about signal, but it is not open.. Before Monday was every thing good.. I tested older version of EA, same result.. I change account of Metatrader, same result.. I change computer, same result.. I do not understand what happends.. thanks for help..
Maybe rr ratio can be modified to avoid such dd.
  • #6,979
  • Oct 12, 2019 4:13am Oct 12, 2019 4:13am
Quoting Simontw
Anybody run the latest BDX this week at 50%ADR H1 with a close at midline? No HAS or CC exit. (Also interested to hear from anyone using the previous BD version) I ran it with HAS and it been a crazy week due to GBP pairs. But just wondering how you did since start of October. I am weighing up the pros cons of early exit versus letting it run to either profit or SL. I am down overall since start of month using HAS exits. So starting to think as much as I like the idea of the early exits, it is actually more profitable overall to leave it to go to...
I suggest you apply CC exit if you can see it allows you to save you a big drawdown, I think if we can add exit on opposite band would be a great addition also. Thanks
  • #6,980
  • Oct 12, 2019 5:40am Oct 12, 2019 5:40am
Quoting MarkStep
{quote} I suggest you apply CC exit if you can see it allows you to save you a big drawdown, I think if we can add exit on opposite band would be a great addition also. Thanks

No CC exit is more extreme than the current HAS exit. If I had to choose one it would 100% be HAS exit.
But as I mentioned previously I made the decision that I make more money more consistently even with SL if I let the trade go to TP/Exit midline with no use of CC or HAS exit. The hit rate makes up for losses in our data so far and in my personal experience.

Big drawdown is no problem if we get a high proportion coming into TP. One 0.01 trade hitting SL no worries. It is worth it to take advantage of our ADR edge. Otherwise, I feel I am crippling too many trades for the sake of safety. But each to their own.. happy trading everyone.
EX BBMA trader focusing on REE code.
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