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  • #121
  • Oct 1, 2019 9:38am Oct 1, 2019 9:38am
Quoting itsDavid
{quote} Can you confirm which settings to work with? Is it the Super Trend Multiplier and Supertrend Period setting on the SuperTrend indi set to the time period you want to trade (current)?
David,

These are the settings for Gold. Can you enter the settings as is and tell us if it resolved. Also, be sure to change the color settings as well- you should just like one Frama Line.

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...1#post12533791

Remember, the xsuper trend is always "current time frame' i.e. we do not use higher time frame for the super trend...

Thanks
  • #122
  • Oct 1, 2019 9:56am Oct 1, 2019 9:56am
Quoting aaven
{quote} David, These are the settings for Gold. Can you enter the settings as is and tell us if it resolved. Also, be sure to change the color settings as well- you should just like one Frama Line. https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...1#post12533791 Remember, the xsuper trend is always "current time frame' i.e. we do not use higher time frame for the super trend... Thanks
Thanks. I have attached screenshots of my settings and what I am seeing. I have just noticed (after doing the screenshots) that you mention that supertrend is always current time frame. I have tried changing that as well but the charts still look very different. I feel sure I am missing something fundamental here!
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  • #123
  • Oct 1, 2019 9:59am Oct 1, 2019 9:59am
With both Supertrend set to 'current'.
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  • #124
  • Oct 1, 2019 10:05am Oct 1, 2019 10:05am
Just noticed something odd that might be the cause of the issue. The timeframes on the two charts don't sync up. No idea why, I opened them both at the same time. Both in the same MT4 screen etc.
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  • #125
  • Oct 1, 2019 10:11am Oct 1, 2019 10:11am
Quoting itsDavid
With both Supertrend set to 'current'. {image}
David,

Do Like this-

1. Open a FRESH Daily XAUUSD chart.

2. Drag "Frama Ribbon" Indicator onto the XAUUSD Daily Chart and apply the settings like the below snapshot-

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3. Drag "xSuper Trend" Indicator onto the same XAUUSD Daily Chart and apply the settings like the below snapshot-

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1. Now Open a fresh 4 Hour XAUUSD Chart.

2. Drag "Frama Ribbon" Indicator onto the XAUUSD 4HR Chart and apply the settings like the below snapshot-

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3. Drag "xSuper Trend" Indicator onto the same XAUUSD 4HR Chart and apply the settings like the below snapshot-

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Thanks
  • #126
  • Oct 1, 2019 10:16am Oct 1, 2019 10:16am
I'll do exactly that, step by step now.

Sorry I'm being such a hassle, I'm usually much faster at picking stuff up than this and usually end up answering as many questions as I ask pretty quickly! This one seems have flummoxed me for some reason.
  • #127
  • Oct 1, 2019 10:26am Oct 1, 2019 10:26am
I have done that and now have a 4H and a daily chart set up with the settings you posted.
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  • #128
  • Oct 1, 2019 10:58am Oct 1, 2019 10:58am
Quoting itsDavid
I have done that and now have a 4H and a daily chart set up with the settings you posted. {image}
David-That's it- You now have charts just like Chris for XAUUSD-

Post #72

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...5#post12530865

For GBPJPY and AUDNZD-do the same approach, but with my settings posts for GBPJPY and AUDNZD...
  • #129
  • Oct 1, 2019 12:02pm Oct 1, 2019 12:02pm
Quoting aaven
{quote} David-That's it- You now have charts just like Chris for XAUUSD- Post #72 https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...5#post12530865 For GBPJPY and AUDNZD-do the same approach, but with my settings posts for GBPJPY and AUDNZD...
Thanks. I assume I can now trade the dots on the 4H chart?

I think I need to do a lot more work understanding these indicators. I would like to learn WHY they give those signals, and the hows behind setting them up. I won't get far learning simply by copying. It's great that i now have it set up, but I still don't really understand how.

I'm doing pretty well trading using stochs, price action, RSI on the other pairs. I am hoping that this might help me add XUAAUD to my trading as well where I've found these indicators less reliable. But in order to do that I'm going to need a lot more understanding.

Are there any good instructional pages and/or videos for these indis and this method I could study?
  • #130
  • Oct 1, 2019 1:53pm Oct 1, 2019 1:53pm
Quoting itsDavid
{quote} I'm trying to figure out how to sync them as shown in post 92. So I can trade XAUUSD on the 4hr chart.
Too many options get confusing.
  • #131
  • Oct 1, 2019 1:58pm Oct 1, 2019 1:58pm
Quoting itsDavid
{quote} Thanks. I assume I can now trade the dots on the 4H chart? I think I need to do a lot more work understanding these indicators. I would like to learn WHY they give those signals, and the hows behind setting them up. I won't get far learning simply by copying. It's great that i now have it set up, but I still don't really understand how. I'm doing pretty well trading using stochs, price action, RSI on the other pairs. I am hoping that this might help me add XUAAUD to my trading as well where I've found these indicators less reliable. But...
David,

The method and trading logic is evolving and still work in progress. You can google the names of the indicators and i am sure there must be documentation or notes on their inner workings...

Thanks
  • #132
  • Edited 5:08pm Oct 1, 2019 2:53pm | Edited 5:08pm
Quoting aaven
{quote} David, The method and trading logic is evolving and still work in progress. You can google the names of the indicators and i am sure there must be documentation or notes on their inner workings... Thanks
Thanks.

I'm not the type to ask without Googling first, you can be sure of that.

I found some fairly basic info on fractal moving averages etc, which was useful. I just thought it was also worth asking since there are likely to be recommendations from people here

The most interesting thing I found was the attached pdf which may be useful to people?
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  • #133
  • Oct 1, 2019 4:34pm Oct 1, 2019 4:34pm
David...we are trading the daily and the 4 hour seperately.

We are not trading the 4 hour off of the daily chart.
  • #134
  • Oct 1, 2019 4:38pm Oct 1, 2019 4:38pm
Just got home and realized something with regards to my earlier confusion about closing a trade when a dot appears or wait for higher TF to complete first.

Because I have decided to set interpolation to true I must stay consistent and close as soon as the dot appears and open a new trade.

I believe the saying is "Live by the sword die by the sword".

Chris
  • #135
  • Edited 4:52pm Oct 1, 2019 4:39pm | Edited 4:52pm
Quoting cfudge
David...we are trading the daily and the 4 hour seperately. We are not trading the 4 hour off of the daily chart.
I honestly couldn't be more confused. I'm going to start reading the thread again and see if I can work it all out. I thought what I just created was a 4H and a Daily chart. Would trading off the 4H be trading off the daily? I'm genuinely so confused at this point.
  • #136
  • Oct 1, 2019 4:48pm Oct 1, 2019 4:48pm
OK let's try this

If we want to trade the daily chart the frama ribbon will need to take its signals from the weekly TF.

The xsupertrend also wants to take its signals from the weekly TF, but doing this we get the colour change signals too late (having to wait for the weekly candle to

close)

So...we need to open 2 daily charts both as described above. Then on one chart you will change the TF of the xsupetrend to current (which will be the daily TF)

On that same chart you will change the "supertrend period" and the "supertrend multiplier" until it looks close enough to the unaltered chart. When you are happy with

how it looks close the other daily chart and the chart that is left (the adjusted one) is now ready to trade with.

This is how you would set up charts for whatever TF you want to trade with.

Chris
  • #137
  • Oct 1, 2019 4:59pm Oct 1, 2019 4:59pm
I thought that's what I had done with aavens help earlier today. I think I need to sleep on this one and come back fresh tomorrow. I normally find this stuff pretty easy to follow but some reason this one is just not in sync with my brain. I'm sure a lightbulb will come on sooner or later!
  • #138
  • Oct 1, 2019 5:05pm Oct 1, 2019 5:05pm
Quoting itsDavid
I thought that's what I had done with aavens help earlier today. I think I need to sleep on this one and come back fresh tomorrow. I normally find this stuff pretty easy to follow but some reason this one is just not in sync with my brain. I'm sure a lightbulb will come on sooner or later!
Sleep on it man...I was confused yesterday but writing out the tutorial helped me. It really isn't that hard once you have done it a few times.

BTW your charts posted above are exactly the same as mine. (your gold charts)
  • #139
  • Oct 2, 2019 5:55am Oct 2, 2019 5:55am
Quoting cfudge
{quote} Sleep on it man...I was confused yesterday but writing out the tutorial helped me. It really isn't that hard once you have done it a few times. BTW your charts posted above are exactly the same as mine. (your gold charts)
Hello Chris
On the weekly time frame to trade the daily, are you setting the "dot on the first bar" to true or false?
Or any other higher time frame for that matter, for instance daily to trade 4 hourly?
Regards
  • #140
  • Oct 2, 2019 8:11am Oct 2, 2019 8:11am
Hi Howard
I am trading the daily with weekly settings and the 4hour with daily settings

Yes all have interpolation set to true, so the dot appears early
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