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  • #9,381
  • Sep 27, 2019 4:50pm Sep 27, 2019 4:50pm
Quoting Aussi
{quote} ITS ALL ABOUT THE CASH , thats all it is not ego you make 10% is that ego zenNy , 3 trades a week or 100 trades a day its still about the money
not need to raise your voice mate, we all can read keeping the voice down.....

no with 100 trades per week you have lees probability to make good money because the broker is making the most.....
trading is simple but is simple is not easy.
  • #9,382
  • Sep 27, 2019 4:53pm Sep 27, 2019 4:53pm
Quoting digger1
{quote} use your tools,,, draw a damn line ,, thts wht you do ,, practice ,,,, physically do it ,,, observing helps but one can observe and observe ,,,, doing it speeds it up,,like when you were a kid ,, observing one riding a bike really didnt do you much good ,, when you got the seat then shit became real ,,you had to find your balance ,, you had to steer , you had to do all the little thing s , took a bit of practice,, then it became 2nd nature and you didnt even think about it you just did it
Yeah, doing it while on a open trade. Just can't draw a line yet coz my chart is fucked up. Will fix it this weekend and try to make it beautiful and look like trading is easy coz you can already see whats above and below and where to target.. like chart of yours.
Only an idiot knows with certainty to where the market is going.
  • #9,383
  • Sep 27, 2019 4:53pm Sep 27, 2019 4:53pm
Quoting ZenNy
{quote} not need to raise your voice mate, we all can read keeping the voice down..... no with 100 trades per week you have lees probability to make good money because the broker is making the most.....
some time one has to shout out to make a point zenNy and my point is no matter how you trade its about wealth creation i know a lot of people do not understand it zenNY but its about the money
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  • #9,384
  • Sep 27, 2019 4:56pm Sep 27, 2019 4:56pm
Quoting Rrrracer
{quote} I agree... now if I would only do what the chart says to do instead of overthinking everything, I might get ahead LOL... sometimes hard to unlearn what one has picked up along the way (which is usually a bunch of garbage.)
your wrist better be balck and blue ,, both of them lol
  • #9,385
  • Sep 27, 2019 4:58pm Sep 27, 2019 4:58pm
Quoting MrBullBear
{quote} Yeah, doing it while on a open trade. Just can't draw a line yet coz my chart is fucked up. Will fix it this weekend and try to make it beautiful and look like trading is easy coz you can already see whats above and below and where to target.. like chart of yours.
lol,, its never easy bud ,, but it aint rocket science ,, your not splitting the atom here ,,
  • #9,386
  • Sep 27, 2019 4:58pm Sep 27, 2019 4:58pm
if i did not allow my broker to make commissions i bet he would close my account the liquid providers are making more money people are making a living of my trading
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  • #9,387
  • Sep 27, 2019 5:00pm Sep 27, 2019 5:00pm
Quoting Aussi
if i did not allow my broker to make commissions i bet he would close my account the liquid providers are making more money people are making a living of my trading
I almost know they would find a reason ,, well I know they would ,, ha,, the very least there is a big go around about it ,,, some come around some dont lol
  • #9,388
  • Sep 27, 2019 5:02pm Sep 27, 2019 5:02pm
anyway that enough dave you got the point across to people who listen , you naughty boy
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  • #9,389
  • Sep 27, 2019 5:04pm Sep 27, 2019 5:04pm
Quoting Aussi
morning digger and mr bullbear spring frost this morning ,
Let's take advantage of the spring... Let's collect MONEY!!!! Wait, wait... how? You guys go ahead, im not ready yet. Hahaha.
Only an idiot knows with certainty to where the market is going.
  • #9,390
  • Sep 27, 2019 5:05pm Sep 27, 2019 5:05pm
Quoting Aussi
{quote} some time one has to shout out to make a point zenNy and my point is no matter how you trade its about wealth creation i know a lot of people do not understand it zenNY but its about the money
you can also make the point without shouting otherwise you can risk a stroke....

You see trading is like life, there are not any absolute truth.... but....

back to trading.....of course is about money....but if you know a bit about trading you have to admit that in any instrument in a day you will have about 0 to 3 high probability trades where the your probability of win is 60-70% with a RR of 1:1..... People should focus only on those trades and gain the patience to do so.
trading is simple but is simple is not easy.
  • #9,391
  • Sep 27, 2019 5:05pm Sep 27, 2019 5:05pm
Quoting MrBullBear
{quote} Let's take advantage of the spring... Let's collect MONEY!!!! Wait, wait... how? You guys go ahead, im not ready yet. Hahaha.
i am sure you will when you are ready
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  • #9,392
  • Sep 27, 2019 5:06pm Sep 27, 2019 5:06pm
Quoting MrBullBear
{quote} Let's take advantage of the spring... Let's collect MONEY!!!! Wait, wait... how? You guys go ahead, im not ready yet. Hahaha.
you know more than you think you do ,,,, you just dont know tht yet,,, it will come
  • #9,393
  • Sep 27, 2019 5:11pm Sep 27, 2019 5:11pm
Quoting digger1
{quote} yep and using same shit does tht for one too right ,, some definitely worth knowing ,, but it is still the same shit
probability and slight edge its like poker pocket aces pre flop i could win with that hand on a table of ten 67% of the time
if you spot pocked aces on a chart thats your edge if your disciplined enough you might get 67% win rate taken over 100s of trades at 1 to 1 or possibly 1 to 2 RR that if your realy good top 100 trader.
now thats my understanding we all will have different veiws and i respect that.
a real good trader needs min 100k to be fulltime if you call 30 to 50k livable whats the point in me going live yet
Turn your wounds into wisdom
  • #9,394
  • Sep 27, 2019 5:16pm Sep 27, 2019 5:16pm
Quoting ZenNy
{quote} you can also make the point without shouting otherwise you can risk a stroke.... You see trading is like life, there are not any absolute truth.... but.... back to trading.....of course is about money....but if you know a bit about trading you have to admit that in any instrument in a day you will have about 0 to 3 high probability trades where the your probability of win is 60-70% with a RR of 1:1..... People should focus only on those trades and gain the patience to do so.
you make a good point zenNY , i am sure you have a trading plan and keep to it , the old saying is "' if it works for you keep doing it "" my plan involves a different way of trading which is very successful for me so i keep doing it , on this thread today some said the amount of trades they did got stopped out they have a different plan , i do agree increasing the lot size to make more money makes sense providing the account is safe to do so
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  • #9,395
  • Sep 27, 2019 5:17pm Sep 27, 2019 5:17pm
Quoting MrBullBear
{quote} Let's take advantage of the spring... Let's collect MONEY!!!! Wait, wait... how? You guys go ahead, im not ready yet. Hahaha.
your aud bull bear ,, line drawn on daily ,, failure at a weekly pivot ,,, down last week ,,, this week ,, failure at weekly pivot down ,, last thing tht happened failure at weekly average price ,,, an average weekly price ,, go figure ay ,, no rocket science needed , not much thinking involved ,,, just a level to watch for and take a swing ,, maybe scalp a few up to them levels when there is a good opportunity or right time of day little 2 week trip ,, trades both ways bigger better ones to the down side ,, but right levels some to be had up too
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  • #9,396
  • Sep 27, 2019 5:18pm Sep 27, 2019 5:18pm
Quoting Bk55
{quote} im not saying your selling anything digger but the cleaver money is banking from traders
yes but is you trade with diligence as a trader you can for sure make money, today I only made one trade today, shorting the swiss risking 20 pips for 25...... Prices broke a major trend line the when back up to test the recent high and reverse....
trading is simple but is simple is not easy.
  • #9,397
  • Sep 27, 2019 5:23pm Sep 27, 2019 5:23pm
Quoting Bk55
{quote} probability and slight edge its like poker pocket aces pre flop i could win with that hand on a table of ten 67% of the time if you spot pocked aces on a chart thats your edge if your disciplined enough you might get 67% win rate taken over 100s of trades at 1 to 1 or possibly 1 to 2 RR that if your realy good top 100 trader. now thats my understanding we all will have different veiws and i respect that. a real good trader needs min 100k to be fulltime if you call 30 to 50k livable whats the point in me going live yet
what good does it do not to be live ,, you can apply same shit to small acct if you so desire ,, percentages still the same ,, believe me the 1st time you spend money you made trading ,,, you will grin from ear to ear ,,, then it only gets better,,,, my own opinion ,,, take it for wht it is ,, means nothing in the grand scheme of things ,, but its already got a hold of ya ,, trading must be done a certain way ,,, bad thought to live by from the get go ,tht is from my own experience ,,,, I wish you only the best bud ,, love the big dreams ,, the money is here to make tht a reality ,, hard to get ,,,, even harder believing certain ways and certain things
  • #9,398
  • Sep 27, 2019 5:23pm Sep 27, 2019 5:23pm
Quoting ZenNy
{quote} yes but is you trade with diligence as a trader you can for sure make money, today I only made one trade today, shorting the swiss risking 20 pips for 25...... Prices broke a major trend line the when back up to test the recent high and reverse....
70% of breakouts fail the market ranges most of the time. its not about the qauntity 1 man needs to make lets say 30pips a week the other needs to make 300 whos the cleaver one
Turn your wounds into wisdom
  • #9,399
  • Sep 27, 2019 5:24pm Sep 27, 2019 5:24pm
Quoting Aussi
{quote} you make a good point zenNY , i am sure you have a trading plan and keep to it , the old saying is "' if it works for you keep doing it "" my plan involves a different way of trading which is very successful for me so i keep doing it , on this thread today some said the amount of trades they did got stopped out they have a different plan , i do agree increasing the lot size to make more money makes sense providing the account is safe to do so
good post mate, I am not saying you cannot make money by making 10 trades per day, if you are an expert trader you will for sure.....

But mostly here do not make money and they need to start to make some and the save way to do it is to trade less but only the good one, if they do that 1% a week can go to 4-5 % after they learn how to be selective and after they learn more about themselves.
trading is simple but is simple is not easy.
  • #9,400
  • Sep 27, 2019 5:29pm Sep 27, 2019 5:29pm
Quoting Bk55
{quote} 70% of breakouts fail the market ranges most of the time. its not about the qauntity 1 man needs to make lets say 30pips a week the other needs to make 300 whos the cleaver one
that was not a range....was a major trend reversal..... also a pull back of the higher period after a triple top....

market conditions need to be weighted before a trade is initiated...
trading is simple but is simple is not easy.
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