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i am junior member and also newbie, please help me tp learn i also opened all my transactions to public on my explorer, please do advise for me
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Welcome Ikigo,

This is a journey that requires much time and commitment. Based on your reading in cycles, astrology, astronomy, sacred geometry, W.D. Gann and more, take an idea and test it out... is it true? Does it hold up into the future? We welcome you contributions.

This book by Daniel Ferrera, Gann for the Active Trader is available as a .pdf on his website: http://danieltferrera.com/wp-content..._Trader_SM.pdf This would be a great start....
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Outlook for next week, EUR/USD 30 min bars UTC+2 Red line uses a 200,400,800 MA RPO and the black line uses a 400,800, 1600 NLEMA RPO (non lag exponential moving average, relative price oscillator)
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{quote} How are you liking nadex? I've been doing touch brackets exclusively most of the year and doing pretty well.
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Hi JR, How do touch brackets work in Nadex? The thing I like is having a time based rather than a price based approach to trading. Since I have been looking at weekly swings, the Friday weekly binaries are appealing.
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i am junior member and also newbie, please help me tp learn i also opened all my transactions to public on my explorer, please do advise for me
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If you want to trade with astrology you will have to study authentic astrology. In medieval astrology there are many references to trade in commodities.
First you study the Tetrabiblos of Ptolemy. Then you study medieval astrology.

Good translations are sold here:
https://bendykes.com/product-category/mundane/

You also have to study astronomy. John Filbey's books are very useful:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=John+Fi...ref=nb_sb_noss
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Astronomy-A...8477109&sr=8-6

Then you create your own statistics. When you have created your own statistics you will discover that W.D. Gann, Bradley and many other astro-trading authors are rubbish. Intellectual scammers. What they wrote and their cycles is useless. Fallacies.

But you don't believe in anything I say and nothing you read. You believe only in your own statistics.
You need to become a scientific astrologer to earn money in the markets.
Nice job!

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{quote} I am here to learn something. When you make a prediction with no explanation of the why and how come that post is worthless as far as I'm concerned. And that goes for those of you with "proprietary" indicators.
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The forero toddao is right. My astrological predictions have no use for anyone.
As of tomorrow I will be uploading the predictions every day half an hour before the New York market opens.
I will upload the astral charts with astrological explanations.

Greetings to all.

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{quote} Welcome Ikigo, This is a journey that requires much time and commitment. Based on your reading in cycles, astrology, astronomy, sacred geometry, W.D. Gann and more, take an idea and test it out... is it true? Does it hold up into the future? We welcome you contributions. This book by Daniel Ferrera, Gann for the Active Trader is available as a .pdf on his website: http://danieltferrera.com/wp-content..._Trader_SM.pdf This would be a great start....
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Jnevins, I've spent my life making the best possible statistics of Gann, Bradley and other authors. Statistics in the gold, silver and wheat market since the year 1200, in the American market since the year 1790 and in the Dow Jones since 1896 on a daily chart.

None of those things of W.D. Gann work. If Gann ever won money in the stock market it had to be for reading the tape and the price action. Perhaps Gann used natal astrology on his own natal chart looking for the best moments to negotiate. For example, natal ASC to 60º or 120º of Jupiter or Venus or the regent of the ASC of the natal chart itself. That is, electional astrology with progressions or solar returns on the natal chart or perhaps on the natal charts of the companies traded in the stock market.

But I can scientifically prove that Gann is completely useless with the cycles he wrote in his books.

Greetings.

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{quote} The forero toddao is right. My astrological predictions have no use for anyone. As of tomorrow I will be uploading the predictions every day half an hour before the New York market opens. I will upload the astral charts with astrological explanations. Greetings to all. .
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{quote} Jnevins, I've spent my life making the best possible statistics of Gann, Bradley and other authors. Statistics in the gold, silver and wheat market since the year 1200, in the American market since the year 1790 and in the Dow Jones since 1896 on a daily chart. None of those things of W.D. Gann work. If Gann ever won money in the stock market it had to be for reading the tape and the price action. Perhaps Gann used natal astrology on his own natal chart looking for the best moments to negotiate. For example, natal ASC to 60º or 120º of Jupiter...
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Thanks Suryananda... I don't use Gann methods and as you say, it is for each individual to test ideas and accumulate hard statistical data... for me, working with cycles is enough for now. What Gann has done for me though is to emphasize the importance of cycle study.... I posted these quotes here in Jan, 2018...

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{quote} Thank you so much, most traders struggle with timing issue and I think planetary cycles can teach and resolve this issue a lot. will read it to understand more.
Agreed... time is much more abstract to grasp than the usual price levels, support and resistance, trend lines, etc.

"TIME is the most important factor in determining market movements and by studying the past records of the averages or individual stocks you will be able to prove for yourself that history does repeat and that by knowing the past you can tell the future. There is a definite relation between TIME and PRICE. Now, by a study of the TIME PERIODS and TIME CYCLES you will learn why tops and bottoms are found at certain times and why Resistance Levels are so strong at certain times and bottoms and tops hold around them. The most money is made when fast moves and extreme fluctuations occur at the end of major cycles."

Forcasting by Time Cycles Course
W.D. Gann

Here are some more tidbits from Gann...


"Mathematics is the only exact science. All power under heaven and on earth is given to the man who masters the simple science of mathematics."


"Every movement in the market is the result of a natural law and of a Cause which exists long before the Effect takes place and can be determined years in advance. The future is but a repetition of the past, as the Bible plainly states…"


After years of patient study I have proven to my entire satisfaction as well as demonstrated to others that vibration explains every possible phase and condition of the market."


"After exhaustive researches and investigations of the known sciences, I discovered that the Law of Vibration enabled me to accurately determine the exact points to which stocks or commodities should rise and fall within a given time. The working out of this law determines the cause and predicts the effect long before the Street is aware either."


"By knowing the exact vibration of each individual stock I am able to determine at what point each will receive support and what point the greatest resistance is to be met."


"Those in close touch with the market have noticed the phenomena of ebb and flow, or rise and fall in the value of stocks. At certain times a stock will become intensely active, large transactions being made in it; at other times this same stock will become practically stationary or inactive with a very small volume of sales. I have found that the Law of Vibration governs and controls these conditions."
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Outlook for next week, EUR/USD 30 min bars UTC+2 Red line uses a 200,400,800 MA RPO and the black line uses a 400,800, 1600 NLEMA RPO (non lag exponential moving average, relative price oscillator) {image}
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Hi Jeremy. I am using your spectrum method, observation for 3 weeks - very accurate . Can you show you settings screen for this analysis? Thank you
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{quote} {image}
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Get lost.
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[quote = Magnat; 12503518] {quote} Get lost. [/ quote]

Parisboy & Gann1993 & XXX is a frank-speaking multinick that sells trading signals with the supposed secrets of W.D. Gann in many threads of Forex Factory. He is not going to leave here because his goal is to destroy this thread.

Regards.

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{quote} Thanks Suryananda... I don't use Gann methods and as you say, it is for each individual to test ideas and accumulate hard statistical data... for me, working with cycles is enough for now. What Gann has done for me though is to emphasize the importance of cycle study.... I posted these quotes here in Jan, 2018... Quoting DailyCharts {quote} Thank you so much, most traders struggle with timing issue and I think planetary cycles can teach and resolve this issue...
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Geocentrically there are 10 planets with 10 sidereal or tropical cycles. How you prefer.
10 x 1 = 10
Each planet has synodic cycles with the outer planets.
10 x 10 = 100/2 = 50
Each planet has cycles of decline.
10 x 1 = 10
Each planet has aspects of latitude with the other planets.
10 x 10 = 100/2 = 50
Each planet has anomalistic cycles (perigee-apogee).
10 x 1 = 10
Each planet has its own cycle with respect to the Ascendant in the terrestrial rotation. They are the 12 astrological houses.
10 x 12 = 120
(10 + 50 + 10 + 50 + 10 + 120) The final result must be multiplied by 12 zodiac signs + retrograde planets + sunspots + eclipses + heliocentric + etcetera. This causes an infinite number of cycles. Which some work by moving the price of financial assets and others do not.
Cycles can only do two things with the price of things. Raise the price or lower it.
The statistical result is similar to this but with several hundreds of graphics of overlapping and nested graphs over each other.


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The problem is which cycle is working now? Why this cycle and not any other. The answer is impossible to know with mere statistical calculations correlating the price with the astronomical movement. In that tangle it is impossible to predict what will rise, how and when.

The answer can only be found by studying astrology.
The ancients thousands of years ago knew these problems and tried to put order in astronomical cycles through astrology and its symbolic meanings.

https://books.google.es/books?id=8Mo...cicles&f=false

Best wishes.
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[quote = Magnat; 12503518] {quote} Get lost. [/ quote] Parisboy & Gann1993 & XXX is a frank-speaking multinick that sells trading signals with the supposed secrets of W.D. Gann in many threads of Forex Factory. He is not going to leave here because his goal is to destroy this thread. Regards. .
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Surya

Unfortunately for you I am an old member of the Timing Solution user group where I met jeremy Nevins the initiator of this thread. This is the reason why I have subscribed to Jeremy's thread

For the rest I leave you to your stubborness, plain stupidity, paranoia and fantasies

As for Magnat :

Magnat joined FF in August 2010, 9 years ago
In 9 years, Magnat posted 77 messages - 8 messages a year
His last message was April 4 2015 53 months ago !
And suddenly after 53 months of inactivity Magnat arrives on Jeremy's thread out of nowhere, and his first message 12 hours ago is "get lost" ????
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{quote} Geocentrically there are 10 planets with 10 sidereal or tropical cycles. How you prefer. 10 x 1 = 10 Each planet has synodic cycles with the outer planets. 10 x 10 = 100/2 = 50 Each planet has cycles of decline. 10 x 1 = 10 Each planet has aspects of latitude with the other planets. 10 x 10 = 100/2 = 50 Each planet has anomalistic cycles (perigee-apogee). 10 x 1 = 10 Each planet has its own cycle with respect to the Ascendant in the terrestrial rotation. They are the 12 astrological houses. 10 x 12 = 120 (10 + 50 + 10 + 50 + 10 + 120) (10 + 50 + 10 + 50 + 10 + 120)

The final result must be multiplied by 12 zodiac signs + retrograde planets + sunspots + eclipses + heliocentric + etcetera. This causes an infinite number of cycles. Which some work by moving the price of financial assets and others do not.

Cycles can only do two things with the price of things. Raise the price or lower it.

The statistical result is similar to this but with several hundreds of graphics of overlapping and nested graphs over each other..
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Surya congratulations for this fantastic technical discovery ! A major breakthrough

You make my day, Fountain of Wisdom
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This comes from a small neural network that I am building. The astrological prediction is also bearish. Best wishes to All. DJIA {image} {image} .
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The graph that I uploaded a week ago is still valid. This graphic comes from a small neural network that I have been building for months. It is not an astrological prediction.

DJIA is Bearish to Sep 17, 2019.

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{quote} The graph that I uploaded a week ago is still valid. This graphic comes from a small neural network that I have been building for months. It is not an astrological prediction. DJIA is Bearish to Sep 17, 2019.
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I agree that the outlook is bearish.
Since the lunar eclipse the market has not been able to reach the same high.
At this point it may happen, but if so it won't be long before it falls below and the market will be bearish/sideways until at least the end of the year and after the new year we will get our usual sell off in January.

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{quote} Hi Jeremy. I am using your spectrum method, observation for 3 weeks - very accurate . Can you show you settings screen for this analysis? Thank you
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Hi Taxfree.... I posted a video on how I am calculating the weekly projection line in post 10,488, August 16...

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Here is a link to my playlist of Timing Solution videos on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...TVTDDQjmtrZJ7i

Best,

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{quote} Geocentrically there are 10 planets with 10 sidereal or tropical cycles. How you prefer. 10 x 1 = 10 Each planet has synodic cycles with the outer planets. 10 x 10 = 100/2 = 50 Each planet has cycles of decline. 10 x 1 = 10 Each planet has aspects of latitude with the other planets. 10 x 10 = 100/2 = 50 Each planet has anomalistic cycles (perigee-apogee). 10 x 1 = 10 Each planet has its own cycle with respect to the Ascendant in the terrestrial rotation. They are the 12 astrological houses. 10 x 12 = 120 (10 + 50 + 10 + 50 + 10 + 120) The...
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Right... it would be fairly impossible to keep track of and calculate these innumerable cycles... much less trade from them... that's where Timing Solution software comes in. It calculates all of the many cycles then finds a harmonic mean to create a projection line.....

#1 Each of the many cycles I highlighted after running the Spectrum module on 10,000 bars of 30 min data (10 months)

#2 Harmonic Box distillation of all of those cycles into one.

Each of us must study our own method and in time come to trust in it. There are no secrets... only hard work.
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{quote} Right... it would be fairly impossible to keep track of and calculate these innumerable cycles... much less trade from them... that's where Timing Solution software comes in. It calculates all of the many cycles then finds a harmonic mean to create a projection line..... #1 Each of the many cycles I highlighted after running the Spectrum module on 10,000 bars of 30 min data (10 months) #2 Harmonic Box distillation of all of those cycles into one. Each of us must study our own method and in time come to trust in it. There are no secrets......
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OK thanks.
But following any astrological signal, I only enter the market if the indicators indicate so.
In a 4-hour chart and at the opening of the London market for EURUSD or at the opening of Wall Street for DJIA.

I do not expect any turning point if the RSI does not tell me and the stochastic confirms the trend.
Then, following his chart today, he would only enter the market short if the 10-session mobile average in pale blue crosses the 128-session moving average down. And with RSI going down from 50. At the opening of London and on a 4-hour chart.

In the historical results with astrological reading I cannot overcome a mathematical advantage of 1.35 (135/100). But entering with the indicators in favor of astrological prediction I can reach 3.75 (375/100).

The only secret is to make the best possible reading of the astral chart with mundane astrology and to have patience waiting for the market to confirm entry. If there is no confirmation, it is not traded.

I usually stay in the market for many days trying to win the maximum of the trend.
Greetings.

EURUSD
SHORT if technical conditions described above allow it.

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DJIA is bearish.
Astrological chart.

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