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  • #10,561
  • Sep 9, 2019 8:53am Sep 9, 2019 8:53am
[quote = Gann1993; 12490561] Si eres tan bueno como te lo dices a ti mismo, hagamos una competencia de predicción. Tú eliges el mercado y predices los próximos 30 días. Haré mi propio análisis y podremos compararlo entre sí. De todos modos, si tienes las bolas para hacer esto. [/ Quote]


I make an astrological prediction here weekly. Sometimes it works well and sometimes bad. I also have other old threads where I made predictions.
With them you can earn some money statistically tested. But it's only 50% of my system.
The other half I have not explained why no one has asked me. Weird thing.
I make predictions because I like to make them. I don't do prediction competitions with unknown clowns. When I want to see clowns I go to the circus.
I'm afraid you have low self-esteem to say the things you say.
You talk a lot to say nothing. You do not contribute anything in this thread. In other threads either.
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  • #10,562
  • Sep 9, 2019 9:00am Sep 9, 2019 9:00am
Quoting Gann1993
If you are this great as you are telling yourself, let's do a prediction competition.. You choose the market and predict the next 30 days. I will do my own analysis and we can compare it against each other. Anyway if you have the balls to do this.
Dear Mr. Gann... Yes, please post predictions then end of the week recaps. Only then can you be confident in your methods. I have been doing that for 3 years, each week on this forum. Come in peace and solidarity though, not in angry "I'm gonna prove something" mindset. Here's the kicker... are you willing to share your methods? FF is full of traders who "have the secret" but since they have worked so hard for it, would never share the knowledge, as your mentors have done with you.

Are you game?
  • #10,563
  • Sep 9, 2019 9:02am Sep 9, 2019 9:02am
Quoting jnevins
{quote} Dear Mr. Gann... Yes, please post predictions then end of the week recaps. Only then can you be confident in your methods. I have been doing that for 3 years, each week on this forum. Come in peace and solidarity though, not in angry "I'm gonna prove something" mindset. Here's the kicker... are you willing to share your methods? FF is full of traders who "have the secret" but since they have worked so hard for it, would never share the knowledge, as your mentors have done with you. Are you game?

Something else, with the graphics of the transforms that jnevins uploads weekly you can also earn a lot of money if you know how to use them.
The graphic is "raw material" to be developed. Like astrological predictions.


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  • #10,564
  • Edited 12:30pm Sep 9, 2019 9:22am | Edited 12:30pm
Quoting jnevins
{quote} Dear Mr. Gann... Yes, please post predictions then end of the week recaps. Only then can you be confident in your methods. I have been doing that for 3 years, each week on this forum. Come in peace and solidarity though, not in angry "I'm gonna prove something" mindset. Here's the kicker... are you willing to share your methods? FF is full of traders who "have the secret" but since they have worked so hard for it, would never share the knowledge, as your mentors have done with you. Are you game?
In financial astrology there are no secrets because everything is in the historical bibliography.
Astrology has been used to predict the movement of the price of commodities since before Ptolemy. In medieval astrology there are dozens of texts with this theme. In the old Vedic astrology there are also many explanations about it.
Teachers who sell secrets are not teachers. They are scammers.

Why did Gann sell courses in his old age? This question has not been answered.

Who inherited Gann's supposed fortune? His wife only inherited one house. His son inherited almost nothing.
Gann fanatics say fortune was hidden. Was Gann a tax fraudster?

I fear that Mr. Gann## has not come here to share anything. Only he comes to show off how much he knows and how much money he earns. The problem is that his money and his knowledge are hidden. No one has seen them. Maybe he doesn't either.
In other Forex Factory threads he does the same.
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  • #10,565
  • Sep 9, 2019 10:06am Sep 9, 2019 10:06am
Quoting Gann1993
If you are this great as you are telling yourself, let's do a prediction competition.. You choose the market and predict the next 30 days. I will do my own analysis and we can compare it against each other. Anyway if you have the balls to do this.
Unless your quant trading 30 years is more likely the timeframe you need to disqualify such strategies
  • #10,566
  • Sep 9, 2019 10:10am Sep 9, 2019 10:10am
Quoting sidhujag
{quote} Unless your quant trading 30 years is more likely the timeframe you need to disqualify such strategies

There will always be people who will need myths to believe in. There is an entire industry around that need.
About the Gann myth:
https://www.readtheticker.com/Pages/...ann-life-story


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  • #10,567
  • Sep 9, 2019 12:54pm Sep 9, 2019 12:54pm
Quoting Suryananda
{quote} There will always be people who will need myths to believe in. There is an entire industry around that need. About the Gann myth: https://www.readtheticker.com/Pages/...ann-life-story .
Gann used astrology, but different that the technique that you are using, which he used in addition to his technique.
Gann used astrological cycles in a specific way related to "nothing is new under the sun, what has been will be again".

He also used price angles, and knew in advance when time and price would meet.
These 2 techniques were the basis of his theory.

He was also versed in other fields of astrology and numerology and used these techniques combined.
Looking at his horoscope Gann was a writer, he wanted to communicate this knowledge to ensure it wouldn't get lost.
Not sure if the did everything kosher, using astrology for monetary gain is only good in some situations.
However, the value of the knowledge far exceeds any monetary value.
  • #10,568
  • Sep 9, 2019 3:03pm Sep 9, 2019 3:03pm
Quoting Ilovepippin
{quote} Gann used astrology, but different that the technique that you are using, which he used in addition to his technique. Gann used astrological cycles in a specific way related to "nothing is new under the sun, what has been will be again". He also used price angles, and knew in advance when time and price would meet. These 2 techniques were the basis of his theory. He was also versed in other fields of astrology and numerology and used these techniques combined. Looking at his horoscope Gann was a writer, he wanted to communicate this knowledge...
Amen
  • #10,569
  • Sep 9, 2019 3:19pm Sep 9, 2019 3:19pm
Quoting Suryananda
{quote} In financial astrology there are no secrets because everything is in the historical bibliography. Astrology has been used to predict the movement of the price of commodities since before Ptolemy. In medieval astrology there are dozens of texts with this theme. In the old Vedic astrology there are also many explanations about it. Teachers who sell secrets are not teachers. They are scammers. Why did Gann sell courses in his old age? This question has not been answered. Who inherited Gann's supposed fortune? His wife only inherited one house....

I can feel the hate because i don't share my knowledge.

But why do you even care about my system since you don't believe in Gann?
If you think i will share my methods with you by calling Gann a scammer and me a liar, good luck.

btw: i am not selling any courses and i never paid a single $ for that knowledge

It calls "Determination" to succeed.

You say Gann is a scam, while millions of traders use some kind of gann system, now that's what i call not contributing.
I never said your system didn't work, why are you always attacking me and Gann traders?
I am sharing my analysis with everyone here in the forum, and many Gann enthusiasts are very thankful.

I have met wonderful people in here, and at the same time i can feel the hate everywhere.

It depends on if you are open minded or close minded.

If you think Gann is a scam, i am a liar and i am not contributing to this forum than i'm afraid to massively disappoint you.
  • #10,570
  • Sep 9, 2019 3:30pm Sep 9, 2019 3:30pm
Quoting jnevins
{quote} Dear Mr. Gann... Yes, please post predictions then end of the week recaps. Only then can you be confident in your methods. I have been doing that for 3 years, each week on this forum. Come in peace and solidarity though, not in angry "I'm gonna prove something" mindset. Here's the kicker... are you willing to share your methods? FF is full of traders who "have the secret" but since they have worked so hard for it, would never share the knowledge, as your mentors have done with you. Are you game?
I will do so.

I understand that you are frustrated because you are a teacher yourself, or have been.
But indeed my teacher learned me the hard way, and i am glad he did.

When you hear that people pay $10,000's of dollars for gann courses and they are still not able to predict the markets accurate, while i didn't pay a single $ but i am able to predict the markets in short term, long term and price. Well that's an amazing feeling, being part of something special.

I never said i would not help anyone in this field, it's just not the kind of knowledge that you post public in a forum.
Gann traders like me will only share tiny bits of hints and clues, if some gann student asks me for help and proves me he is a real seeker, then i will help him to get on the right path.
  • #10,571
  • Sep 9, 2019 9:42pm Sep 9, 2019 9:42pm
Quoting Gann1993
{quote} I will do so. I understand that you are frustrated because you are a teacher yourself, or have been. But indeed my teacher learned me the hard way, and i am glad he did. When you hear that people pay $10,000's of dollars for gann courses and they are still not able to predict the markets accurate, while i didn't pay a single $ but i am able to predict the markets in short term, long term and price. Well that's an amazing feeling, being part of something special. I never said i would not help anyone in this field, it's just not the kind of...

Oh, I am not frustrated in the least. My interest in Gann only extends to his broad grasp of many esoteric subjects but I don't have an interest in "discovering" the "secret". I have plenty to keep me busy with my current research into cycles.
  • #10,572
  • Sep 10, 2019 3:29am Sep 10, 2019 3:29am
Quoting Ilovepippin
{quote} Gann used astrology, but different that the technique that you are using, which he used in addition to his technique. Gann used astrological cycles in a specific way related to "nothing is new under the sun, what has been will be again". He also used price angles, and knew in advance when time and price would meet. These 2 techniques were the basis of his theory. He was also versed in other fields of astrology and numerology and used these techniques combined. Looking at his horoscope Gann was a writer, he wanted to communicate this knowledge to ensure it wouldn't get lost. Not sure if the did everything kosher, using astrology for monetary gain is only good in some situations. However, the value of the knowledge far exceeds any monetary value.


Gann did not use astrology. Gann did not know astrology. He used astronomical cycles. That's why he also used heliocentric astronomy. That is an astrological aberration because we do not live in the Sun.
Astrology is not the same as astronomy.
When people don't know astrology, they confuse astrology with astronomy.
Astrology is a symbolic language.
The second question remains unanswered, where is the fortune of W.D. Gann? Does it hide in South American banks?
Why do you have such a need to worship myths?

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  • #10,573
  • Sep 10, 2019 3:46am Sep 10, 2019 3:46am
Quoting jnevins
{quote} Oh, I am not frustrated in the least. My interest in Gann only extends to his broad grasp of many esoteric subjects but I don't have an interest in "discovering" the "secret". I have plenty to keep me busy with my current research into cycles.
Mr. Gann ### has nothing to share because he has no knowledge. He is a provocateur who tries to gather information. In other threads of F.F. he keeps the same empty talk.

In Belgium I have met several people like him. But Belgian chocolate is tasty. I like it.

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  • #10,574
  • Sep 10, 2019 3:51am Sep 10, 2019 3:51am
Quoting Gann1993
{quote} I will do so. I understand that you are frustrated because you are a teacher yourself, or have been. But indeed my teacher learned me the hard way, and i am glad he did. When you hear that people pay $10,000's of dollars for gann courses and they are still not able to predict the markets accurate, while i didn't pay a single $ but i am able to predict the markets in short term, long term and price. Well that's an amazing feeling, being part of something special. I never said i would not help anyone in this field, it's just not the kind of...

Hé ami! Se détendre. Lorsque vous apprendrez un peu d'humilité, il sera plus facile de recueillir des informations auprès de ceux qui savent. Mais avec votre arrogance actuelle, il est très douteux que vous puissiez apprendre quelque chose.
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  • #10,575
  • Sep 10, 2019 4:52am Sep 10, 2019 4:52am
Quoting jnevins
{quote} Read this excellent write up on the Gann Emblem... Perhaps you have seen it already... https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...119199915.app2
thanks a lot !
  • #10,576
  • Edited 5:16am Sep 10, 2019 5:03am | Edited 5:16am
it would be useful if Gannxxxx and Suryayyyy could post something simple, practical , replicable by the normal guy trading on FF

The rest is non-sense and a waste of time and of space.

Gann tools (Angles, Horizontal Lines, Square of Nine etc ) work . It is not the Holy Grail but it works when you know their limits.

IMHO Astrology do not work for the average guy when trading Too complex.

An Astrologer can surely trade with "astrological" tools and / or astrological methodology, but conversely how many traders can trade using "astrology" ? My experience is very few.

As for now I was not impressed by what both Gannxxx and Suryayyyy have posted. Old generalities on Gann and Financial Astrology

My 2 cents
  • #10,577
  • Sep 10, 2019 7:20am Sep 10, 2019 7:20am
Quoting Suryananda
{quote} Gann did not use astrology. Gann did not know astrology. He used astronomical cycles. That's why he also used heliocentric astronomy. That is an astrological aberration because we do not live in the Sun. Astrology is not the same as astronomy. When people don't know astrology, they confuse astrology with astronomy. Astrology is a symbolic language. The second question remains unanswered, where is the fortune of W.D. Gann? Does it hide in South American banks? Why do you have such a need to worship myths? .
That's what i have been saying for the last 10 posts, did you even read?
  • #10,578
  • Sep 10, 2019 7:21am Sep 10, 2019 7:21am
Quoting Suryananda
{quote} Hé ami! Se détendre. Lorsque vous apprendrez un peu d'humilité, il sera plus facile de recueillir des informations auprès de ceux qui savent. Mais avec votre arrogance actuelle, il est très douteux que vous puissiez apprendre quelque chose. ,

Speak english please this is an english forum are you trying to show off you can talk french or what?
The level of professionality is getting lower by the post..
  • #10,579
  • Edited 10:10am Sep 10, 2019 9:54am | Edited 10:10am
Quoting parisboy
it would be useful if Gannxxxx and Suryayyyy could post something simple, practical , replicable by the normal guy trading on FF The rest is non-sense and a waste of time and of space. Gann tools (Angles, Horizontal Lines, Square of Nine etc ) work . It is not the Holy Grail but it works when you know their limits. IMHO Astrology do not work for the average guy when trading Too complex. An Astrologer can surely trade with "astrological" tools and / or astrological methodology, but conversely how many traders can trade using "astrology" ? My experience...
I make an astrological prediction here every week for months. Sometimes it works well and is profitable. Other times it doesn't work.
I make the astrological predictions because I want. I like to make them. If you don't like them, don't look at them. Go to another thread.
Astrology only works when astrology is known. If you don't know that is your problem.

I have not seen Mr. Gann ### predict anything. Do you have vision problems?

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  • #10,580
  • Sep 10, 2019 10:08am Sep 10, 2019 10:08am
Quoting Gann1993
{quote} Speak english please this is an english forum are you trying to show off you can talk french or what? The level of professionality is getting lower by the post..
I did it to remember my old days. When I worked in an EU financial institution. In Belgium I found a lot of guys who talked a lot without saying anything. As your.
"Bavard comme une pie".
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