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  • #41
  • Sep 8, 2019 3:00am Sep 8, 2019 3:00am
Quoting TradeMinim
{quote} Unless we are on level 2 platforms, the volume on level 1 platforms are pretty much irrelevant because they don't reflect the true amount of orders that are in the market at the moment. Sentiment sounds great theoretically,but it is a tug of war not just between retailers, but also big institutions and banks, it also doesn't have solid past data for us to back-test to validate the idea unfortunately. Here's the bomb - most traders are looking for levels, looking to buy or sell, looking for a direction. At market phase hedging, unlearn all...
TradeMinim, don’t want to minimize what you are trying to teach, but isn’t a ranging phase just another type of level? Sure, they may have a greater pip range than say support and resistance zones or supply and demand zones, but a level nonetheless. So I would suggest that you do want us to look for levels, albeit ranging phases as you have called them.
  • #42
  • Sep 8, 2019 3:57am Sep 8, 2019 3:57am
interested to see where this might go..........
for my trades, I watch the weekly trend, wait for a good pullback, 2 days back towards trend direction and place my entry.
I aim for at least 4RR trades.

TM: it seems to be all about the ranging conditions to determine the entry......... am curious to see how you determine if the big players are selling or buying in the ranging phase.......
  • #43
  • Sep 8, 2019 10:20am Sep 8, 2019 10:20am
Quoting tinnitus
{quote} I've seen that said about volume but the problems are far bigger than that. I don't think you'd see anything at higher levels anyway or anything I'd ever have access to. The biggest problem isn't the partial data but that the correlation between volume and price movement is completely inconsistent and can be positive or negative. Re sentiment I am able to see the average across various brokers for certain pairs and how much it has moved in the week/day. It is at worst a nice overview of what has happened (people have piled in at a low/high...
Great work tinnitus. The ranges drawn are looking good.

We are looking at ranges these few weeks, just to rewire your perspective and train your mind to be
consciously aware of range phases. We don't look for breakouts, however we focus on the pip range
that these phases has established, how "fast" it establishes a range.

It also depends on the "scale" that we are looking at.
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  • #44
  • Sep 8, 2019 10:26am Sep 8, 2019 10:26am
Quoting pakeha
{quote} TradeMinim, don’t want to minimize what you are trying to teach, but isn’t a ranging phase just another type of level? Sure, they may have a greater pip range than say support and resistance zones or supply and demand zones, but a level nonetheless. So I would suggest that you do want us to look for levels, albeit ranging phases as you have called them.
How do you define your levels? You can attach a chart on how you define them, so we can be on the same page.
  • #45
  • Sep 8, 2019 10:36am Sep 8, 2019 10:36am
Quoting yonnie
interested to see where this might go.......... for my trades, I watch the weekly trend, wait for a good pullback, 2 days back towards trend direction and place my entry. I aim for at least 4RR trades. TM: it seems to be all about the ranging conditions to determine the entry......... am curious to see how you determine if the big players are selling or buying in the ranging phase.......
That's the most powerful part in Market Phase Hedging. We don't have to know whether they are buying or selling to ride the wave
  • #46
  • Sep 8, 2019 10:38am Sep 8, 2019 10:38am
Remove yourself from the decision-making process.
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"I am not in control, I am only the executioner." We are only in-charge of pushing buy and sell once our trading system
generate entries and exits, but what happens in-between them are completely OUT of our Control.
Does a losing trade upset you? Do losing streaks anger you? Sure, but recognize you are not in control of the market.
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Overcome your emotions, accept them and focus on what you can control -
Your Trading System. Once you developed this routine and habit, Results and Profit are just a matter of PATIENCE.

Have a great trading week tomorrow guys. As always, trade safe
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  • #47
  • Sep 8, 2019 10:49am Sep 8, 2019 10:49am
Quoting TradeMinim
{quote} How do you define your levels? You can attach a chart on how you define them, so we can be on the same page.
Look at Tinnitus’s diagram. Those orange rectangles and the blue one you added are simply zones formed at price levels.
  • #48
  • Sep 8, 2019 10:52am Sep 8, 2019 10:52am
Quoting TradeMinim
{quote} Great work tinnitus. The ranges drawn are looking good. We are looking at ranges these few weeks, just to rewire your perspective and train your mind to be consciously aware of range phases. We don't look for breakouts, however we focus on the pip range that these phases has established, how "fast" it establishes a range. It also depends on the "scale" that we are looking at. {image}
Cheers! To answer your question in the chart pic - I presume you don't draw boxes on the two bottom accumulations because they kinda trend in a direction rather than range? I.e. They look almost like mini distribution phases.

When I looked at USDJPY it was a lot harder to identify ranges, and conversely not so difficult in gold. And generally within any market it seems that it goes through periods of (at best) hidden ranges. Do you agree?
Hypocrite lecteur, mon semblable, mon frere!
  • #49
  • Sep 9, 2019 4:23pm Sep 9, 2019 4:23pm
TM, any chance of an update if you have time?
  • #50
  • Sep 10, 2019 10:40am Sep 10, 2019 10:40am
Quoting tinnitus
{quote} Cheers! To answer your question in the chart pic - I presume you don't draw boxes on the two bottom accumulations because they kinda trend in a direction rather than range? I.e. They look almost like mini distribution phases. When I looked at USDJPY it was a lot harder to identify ranges, and conversely not so difficult in gold. And generally within any market it seems that it goes through periods of (at best) hidden ranges. Do you agree?
Because it haven't broke structure. We always wait for structure to be broken before drawing a range.

All currencies go through range phases, when you can't find a range in a TF, scale upwards and observe, then scale down to highlight.
  • #51
  • Sep 10, 2019 10:41am Sep 10, 2019 10:41am
Quoting yonnie
TM, any chance of an update if you have time?
I'm finalizing my blog posts as we speak Will update soon
  • #52
  • Sep 10, 2019 10:42am Sep 10, 2019 10:42am
Quoting pakeha
{quote} Look at Tinnitus’s diagram. Those orange rectangles and the blue one you added are simply zones formed at price levels.
However you define it. The main observation is to look for areas where there are a balance of buyers
and sellers (hence the ranging phases).
  • #53
  • Sep 10, 2019 10:57am Sep 10, 2019 10:57am
Some traders PM-ed me and asked why we haven't trade these few weeks.

1. Because we've hit our target of the year at 100%, so we are playing more defensively this quarter.
2. We rode the bullish wave in Gold earlier this year. Entering buy trades these few weeks would be "Buying High".

After extending the range of Gold, Price declined aggressively and pulling back to the edge of the ranging phase zone. This attractive area is where price has been approached will definitely heat up the battle of buyers and sellers. Standing at the side line for now but will be looking out for trade opportunities as
price is going to choose a direction soon. Trade safe
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  • #54
  • Sep 12, 2019 8:07pm Sep 12, 2019 8:07pm
Anyone got whipped in EURUSD earlier? Let's discuss. The green range is where we would enter the trade before the whip,
and it doesn't really matter whether price has moved up or down.
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  • #55
  • Edited Sep 13, 2019 10:00am Sep 12, 2019 8:17pm | Edited Sep 13, 2019 10:00am
Do Forex sentiments work? Well google it and it say it does. But the reality is Sentiments are painted all over the charts
in your face, and so many traders just fail to see them!

Sentiments are data that we "Have no control" of. And adding this predictive variable to your trading system simply creates chaos.

- Is something we have no control of
- It's DELAYED data from who? The Market Makers.
- We won't know how the masses will react
- News can easily disrupt the current sentiment

Will the majority be always wrong? It depends. Market makers can whip all they want like in EURUSD.
Focus on building your trading system with less discretionary elements, it's all you need to do to gain consistent
profitability. Don't chase the unicorn or some "magic" indis. Trade safe
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  • #56
  • Sep 12, 2019 8:52pm Sep 12, 2019 8:52pm
Quoting TradeMinim
Do Forex sentiments work? Well google it and it say it does. But the reality is Sentiments are paint all over the charts in your face, and so many traders just fail to see them! Sentiments are data that we "Have no control" of. And adding this predictive variable to your trading system simply creates chaos. Will the majority be always wrong? It depends. Market makers can whip all they want like in EURUSD. In the end you still side sentiment analysis, well prove me wrong with verified results using sentiment analysis Focus on building...
Hi mate I posted but deleted it because I realised that I had lost sight of where you're coming from. Your posts are quite difficult to decipher but from what I think I understand you are talking about market phases and market ranges as two distinct areas. And by combining a correct knowledge of the two areas, and aligning our trades mechanically to take advantage, we can "trade safe" - sounds good!

As a matter of interest, what phase is GBPUSD in right now and also Gold (XAUUSD)? Thanks for any assistance with those two!!
  • #57
  • Sep 13, 2019 8:55am Sep 13, 2019 8:55am
Quoting TradeMinim
Anyone got whipped in EURUSD earlier? Let's discuss. The green range is where we would enter the trade before the whip, and it doesn't really matter whether price has moved up or down. {image}
How does it not matter whether price moves up or down? I presume you are placing trades both ways but unless I've missed something you've not explained anything yet.
Hypocrite lecteur, mon semblable, mon frere!
  • #58
  • Sep 13, 2019 4:39pm Sep 13, 2019 4:39pm
hi Tin,
the word "hedging" is in the title.........maybe TM trades like this: in the ranging phase, buy near the bottom and instead of a small SL have a hedge in place to sell..............
sell near the top and buy if the range is broken at the top.
he might even have a larger position on for the hedge to cover the loss for the initial position and to make a profit as well.
but we`ll just have to wait for the man himself to explain how he trades.....
  • #59
  • Sep 14, 2019 3:53am Sep 14, 2019 3:53am
Quoting tinnitus
{quote} How does it not matter whether price moves up or down? I presume you are placing trades both ways but unless I've missed something you've not explained anything yet.
Maybe all will be revealed eventually tinnitus. We can only live in hope!!
  • #60
  • Sep 14, 2019 7:19am Sep 14, 2019 7:19am
Quoting Mtinifx
{quote} Hi mate I posted but deleted it because I realised that I had lost sight of where you're coming from. Your posts are quite difficult to decipher but from what I think I understand you are talking about market phases and market ranges as two distinct areas. And by combining a correct knowledge of the two areas, and aligning our trades mechanically to take advantage, we can "trade safe" - sounds good! As a matter of interest, what phase is GBPUSD in right now and also Gold (XAUUSD)? Thanks for any assistance with those two!!
Attached is GBPUSD, when is pair is trending, I will look for opportunities at other pairs, cause the train has "moved" without us.
Remember that Opportunity Lies in the Range, not when the pair has already moved.

Market Phase is the phase of the market in a particular TF, Market Range is the one we draw out.
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