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  • #7,661
  • Edited 9:21am Sep 3, 2019 8:58am | Edited 9:21am
Quoting bleeze
hi everyone, EURGBP confirmation entry trade as discussed on AKT group.....on that group, we work together and we smash trades week in week out....instead of bashing such good man, why not invest in the education of learning to trade properly..... cheers {image} {image} {image}
Yep, thats great buddy, keep on smashing those trades. Just don't smash your head on the table when results ain't coming.

"It's part of trading".. Prefered words of an unsuccesful teacher I guess.

Please Bleeze, shut me up. Please link your MT4 to TRADE EXPLORERS. Show me how this methodology has been working for you since December that you started in this thread.

I can link it aswell if you ask me to and you can check my profile and see that I suck.. But at least I am honest and I show it. Honest not only to you, but to myself, which is the most important.

And NO.. A screenshot is not a statement for success.. easy to fake it. I read in one of your comments that you claimed you make a living out of trading Forex...

So even better. I guess it shouldn't be a problem for a succesful trader like you to link your MT4 to TRADE EXPLORERS. If you are... then dude.. I'll pay you hundreds of dollars a month to learn from you.. really.

Please, show us how this works. Thank god for the holy grial.
  • #7,662
  • Sep 3, 2019 9:56am Sep 3, 2019 9:56am
Quoting guiyee
{quote} OH... MY... GOD... Why is everyone so susceptible here?? What about freedom of speech?? Am I in the authoritarian thread? the comunist thread with a beloved leader?? Jesus calm down people.. I didnt insult or said anything crazy. Where did I insult the guy??? Please show me. Just cuz of my attitude? Chill, this is a public thread I can say whatever I want. I know that no one forced me to be in the thread BUT.. What is so offensive about asking for proof of his success to someone who has tried to SELL me something before??? A document or...
Thanks for your long Epistle.
I think you are in a wrong thread. This thread is not meant for someone who is full of himself, someone who think he know something why he knew nothing. Someone who has not "deep leg into the river and is shouting crocodile". AKT will not tell you he is a superman but he is my own hero. He will never brag that he knows anything. But we know what he is made up of. From what i can see, you are a frustrated trader. And the result or comments you read on this thread make you to be highly uncomfortable. you therefore, ended up to believe that nothing can work in the world of FX. please humble yourself and i can help you to beg AKT to pls help your condition as he did for me.
I await your apology response.
Thank you.
  • #7,663
  • Sep 3, 2019 10:04am Sep 3, 2019 10:04am
Quoting guiyee
{quote} Yep, thats great buddy, keep on smashing those trades. Just don't smash your head on the table when results ain't coming. "It's part of trading".. Prefered words of an unsuccesful teacher I guess. Please Bleeze, shut me up. Please link your MT4 to TRADE EXPLORERS. Show me how this methodology has been working for you since December that you started in this thread. I can link it aswell if you ask me to and you can check my profile and see that I suck.. But at least I am honest and I show it. Honest not only to you, but to myself, which is...
Hello everyone.
Good to hear from you all.

I see a lot of time has been spent and unfortunately wasted discussing me and the thread when that time could have been better spent.
I appreciate your points of view.

Guiyee, as you rightly say, you, like many others have contacted over the last few years regarding the methodology and how to get more information about it.
As is usual for me, i provided the information on the mentoring program. I usually end those emails with the clear statement that the trader is not under any obligation to purchase anything and that the decision is entirely theirs.

Should they choose not to purchase the offered program i don't tend to ask them for their reasons, that is not my place.
If the individual decides not to purchase the program because there is no trade explorer then they are well within their rights to do so. You won't hear any complaints from me at all. You are not compelled to do anything you don't want to do. Not at all.

I am glad you have a methodology that works for you. That is all any trader ever needs.

Like i have said several times here, on recorded videos and webinars, supply and demand is not the only way to make money in the markets. Each one of us has to find a method that works for him or her. I have found one that works for me and of this i share here and in my videos.

I hope i have made a positive contribution to the trading community with the thoughts, free webinars, videos and posts shared over the years.

It is really a fruitless exercise discussing methodologies in terms of what works and what doesn't....what works for one may not and will not work for another, and that's fine.

To note, i was trained by some of the most well known and successful traders in various methodologies, not just Supply and demand. Never for free.
I have never asked any of my mentors to see their bank statements or account statements before i decided for myself whether i wanted the information they learned through sweat and money. I decided i wanted that knowledge and purchased their programs.

I have found it has helped me to be willing to pay for everything i have learned over several years of being mentored, especially when i didn't have the money. My focus has always been on making sure i acquire valuable information i can use, enhance and build upon.

Thank you to all of the contributors here for their generosity towards each other and their kindness to total strangers, sharing views and thoughts in a productive manner.

I would rather this thread continues to be used for what it is meant for, sharing ideas on the markets using supply and demand as the foundation, rather than what other threads have degenerated into.


Best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #7,664
  • Edited 10:52am Sep 3, 2019 10:28am | Edited 10:52am
Quoting Lade
{quote} Thanks for your long Epistle. I think you are in a wrong thread. This thread is not meant for someone who is full of himself, someone who think he know something why he knew nothing. Someone who has not "deep leg into the river and is shouting crocodile". AKT will not tell you he is a superman but he is my own hero. He will never brag that he knows anything. But we know what he is made up of. From what i can see, you are a frustrated trader. And the result or comments you read on this thread make you to be highly uncomfortable. you therefore,...
Did I say I know something?.. I am not bragging about anything buddy, in fact if you talk about humbleness, saying that I am willing to link my MT4 to TRADE EXPLORER to show you that I suck is the most humble thing you will read in this thread...

I am not a frustrated trader because I am a succesfull web programmer. I always thought of trading as something valuable to add in my life and be able to make compound interests with my money.

Buddy.. I wouldn't write any of this if this thread was supposed to create a comunity of people who wants to learn how to trade succesfully... but the TRUTH is that this thread was created by a guy with COMMERCIAL PURPOSES... Did I clarify that AKT tried to sell me a service and a document with more "details" of this methodology??? ... Again, I repeat... I buy it... But since this is internet.. I need proof of success.

So what is so wrong about asking to AKT to show and prove that was he is teaching in fact is a good way to become a succesful trader???

Is it really that hard to link your MT4 to a TRADE EXPLORER??

OF COURSE IT IS!... YOU NEED TO BE PROFITABLE ... long term profitable..

By the way dear LADE, I am a frustrated trader.. how about you?? I guess you are very profitable for saying that

Cheers.
  • #7,665
  • Sep 3, 2019 10:45am Sep 3, 2019 10:45am
Quoting guiyee
{quote} Did I say I know something?.. I am not bragging about anything buddy, in fact if you talk about humbleness, saying that I am willing to link my MT4 to TRADE EXPLORER to show you that I suck is the most humble thing you will read in this thread... I am not a frustrated trader because I am a succesfull web programmer. I always thought of trading as something valuable to add in my life and be able to make compound interests with my money. Buddy.. I wouldn't write any of this if this thread was supposed to create a comunity of people who wants...
Hello Guiyee

I would like to kindly ask that this matter be put to rest and the thread be restored to its purpose please.
It is not a crime to be a commercial entity on forexfactory. The thread was placed here by Forexfactory for their own reasons and they are well within their rights to do so, it is their platform.

I think it would have been more appropriate and civil for you to have asked me directly if you had any questions you had rather than what is currently going on.
Like i said earlier, there is no coercion in the matter.

The thread has rules for contributors to engage with each other.
Frankly it is quite rude and hurtful that you are making insinuations i am being fraudulent for not having a trade explorer. Surely that is my choice whether i have one or not.

If i may, as you don't find the thread of any use to you i would kindly ask that you don't waste your time and the time of others coming here for a genuine engagement with other traders on the opportunities in the markets

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #7,666
  • Sep 3, 2019 10:51am Sep 3, 2019 10:51am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello everyone. Good to hear from you all. I see a lot of time has been spent and unfortunately wasted discussing me and the thread when that time could have been better spent. I appreciate your points of view. Guiyee, as you rightly say, you, like many others have contacted over the last few years regarding the methodology and how to get more information about it. As is usual for me, i provided the information on the mentoring program. I usually end those emails with the clear statement that the trader is not under any obligation to purchase...

Please buddy, do not mix the things I say.. By the way I started the discussion with no intention to offend anyone. But it seems that you have a lot of faithful followers who get very upset if someone doesn't trust a person with no proof of being profitable.

. I neved said that you claim that Supply and Demand is the only methodology that works

. I never said you MAKE other people pay you. Of course it depends on each person..

Words from AKT:

"To note, i was trained by some of the most well known and successful traders in various methodologies, not just Supply and demand. Never for free.
I have never asked any of my mentors to see their bank statements or account statements before i decided for myself whether i wanted the information they learned through sweat and money. I decided i wanted that knowledge and purchased their programs"

Thats great buddy. But its a bit contradictory... You said you learned from SUCCESSFUL traders... but you didn't ask for statements... Well, if I go to University, I wont ask the teacher for statements because THERE IS A REASON HE IS TEACHING AT UNIVERSITY... You know he is successfull , right???
Well... This is internet, we don't know you.. All we know about you, are your words and what you claim to be... but there is no proof of it or whatsoever..

ARE YOU OR ARE YOU NOT A COMMERCIAL MEMBER??
ARE YOU OR ARE YOU NOT CHARGING FOR YOUR SERVICES?? (Yes there is free info and videos, but yet you claim that for a better understanding and more detail info, is better to get the service or document you sell.. am I right??)

Then what is so wrong about asking you for proof of the knowledge you teach for $$??

Would anyone go to a University without knowing if the place is LEGIT???

Thats all I am saying AKT..

Do us all a favor and link your MT4 to TRADE EXPLORERS... So we can end this discussion.. Otherwise you are charging people for a service that might not be helpful at all

- Hey all, I sell this ITEM... I am a good person, I got it from a great dealer, you can buy it.. It works perfectly

.- Show us if it works!!

- Oh please, you shouldn't be like that. I am here with good intentions...

AKT.. TRADER EXPLORERS... It isn't too hard.. really..
  • #7,667
  • Sep 3, 2019 10:57am Sep 3, 2019 10:57am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Guiyee I would like to kindly ask that this matter be put to rest and the thread be restored to its purpose please. It is not a crime to be a commercial entity on forexfactory. The thread was placed here by Forexfactory for their own reasons and they are well within their rights to do so, it is their platform. I think it would have been more appropriate and civil for you to have asked me directly if you had any questions you had rather than what is currently going on. Like i said earlier, there is no coercion in the matter. The thread...
I find rude and hurful that you charge people for something you can't proof it works... Its been 4 years of this thread..

It is not a crime to be a commercial member of course.. I just find it a huge lack of moral sense to make people waste their time with something you can't proof it works..

I find your attitude rude and hurful.. Making people waste their time and money.

Having a TRADE EXPLORERS is your choice.. of course.. But is the ONLY way on Internet to know if someone is profitable or not..

Dont worry, I wont bother too much.. It is your business and if people likes to be fooled and be part of a herd of sheeps.. thats their choice..

But I find it funny that someone like you is saying that I am rude... I am not the one making people waste their time and money buddy..

Cheers
  • #7,668
  • Sep 3, 2019 10:58am Sep 3, 2019 10:58am
Quoting guiyee
{quote} Please buddy, do not mix the things I say.. By the way I started the discussion with no intention to offend anyone. But it seems that you have a lot of faithful followers who get very upset if someone doesn't trust a person with no proof of being profitable. . I neved said that you claim that Supply and Demand is the only methodology that works . I never said you MAKE other people pay you. Of course it depends on each person.. Words from AKT: "To note, i was trained by some of the most well known and successful traders in various methodologies,...
This discussion is over.
I wish you well.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #7,669
  • Sep 3, 2019 11:02am Sep 3, 2019 11:02am
Hello everyone.

An update on the Pfizer trade idea

best wishes
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  • #7,670
  • Sep 3, 2019 11:06am Sep 3, 2019 11:06am
@guiyee I assure you the system is profitable. AKT showing you his statements is irrelevant, he is not selling you anything. He is profitable and so are many of the guys who trade with him, I would know, AKT and I started together.

Him proving to you his profitability statements is irrelevant. His profitability will have no bearing on your profitability because we can take the same exact rules, execute them to a tee and have different results. Why? Profitability is dependent on your understanding of the system, ability to leverage that understanding, money management and your mental/emotional condition at the time of analysis and execution.

I would recommend you evaluate his worthiness through his merit in this thread and his youtube channel. He has posted many setups in advance that have turned out well and some that have not. This business is probabilistic, no one has a 100% hit rate.

Give a little respect, he takes his time out of his VERY VERY busy schedule away from his family, career and friends to foster a thread that is worth its weight in gold and he gave it all away for free. This includes all contributors to the thread, great job at creating a wonderful and constructive community!

Keep up the good work Storehouse Fellas, fans: keep learning, haters: keep on hatin to your own detriment because his group nets pips on a daily basis.

Cheers.
DenDen.
  • #7,671
  • Sep 3, 2019 11:40am Sep 3, 2019 11:40am
Hello everyone

Some thoughts on the EURUSD - Focusing on weekly income.

best wishes
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  • #7,672
  • Sep 3, 2019 12:03pm Sep 3, 2019 12:03pm
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone. Some thoughts on the energy markets, Natural Gas specifically. best wishes{image}{image}
Hello everyone

A revisit of the analysis on Natural Gas...Daily chart

best wishes
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  • #7,673
  • Sep 3, 2019 12:50pm Sep 3, 2019 12:50pm
Hello everyone

Some short term income trading on the Nasdaq 100 US market. Big picture was the hourly chart. Entry on a 2 min chart.

before and after...

best wishes
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  • #7,674
  • Sep 3, 2019 2:04pm Sep 3, 2019 2:04pm
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone Some thoughts on the EURUSD - Focusing on weekly income. best wishes{image}{image}
Hello AKT, my analysis of EURUSD H4 & also your chart below.
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  • #7,675
  • Sep 3, 2019 2:32pm Sep 3, 2019 2:32pm
Quoting Diddyy
{quote} Hello AKT, my analysis of EURUSD H4 & also your chart below.{image}{image}
Hello Diddyy

The definition of quality has to do with the move away from the zones, the time spent at the levels, the freshness of the level, etc.
The removal of an opposing zone is but one of the factors that should be evaluated, but it is not the only one.

Hope that helps

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #7,676
  • Sep 3, 2019 6:39pm Sep 3, 2019 6:39pm
Quoting guiyee
{quote} OH... MY... GOD... Why is everyone so susceptible here?? What about freedom of speech?? Am I in the authoritarian thread? the comunist thread with a beloved leader?? Jesus calm down people.. I didnt insult or said anything crazy. Where did I insult the guy??? Please show me. Just cuz of my attitude? Chill, this is a public thread I can say whatever I want. I know that no one forced me to be in the thread BUT.. What is so offensive about asking for proof of his success to someone who has tried to SELL me something before??? A document or...
Your lack of respect for people who have been helping community answer their question from their own busy schedules is rather shameful, who are you to ask me to show you my trading account, my past, my success and my results are for people who matter to me, You on the other hand dont matter to me at all, YOU ARE NO BODY!!!

You really do have a lot of time to waste and for hatred towards other, wish if you had spent time learning something useful, you wouldn't be here wining like a 6 year old, I believe AKT has already answered and made this matter closed, so would consider this matter closed too.

Good that you know about trade explorer, I wish you had spent that time learning about Trade Explorer and what they can do, you had spent same time learning any methodology then you would have known about Trading too...
  • #7,677
  • Sep 3, 2019 8:37pm Sep 3, 2019 8:37pm
Hi AKT and everyone

This is a losing trade I took on Corn. Sequence is W D 4H.
The trend was down, inside Weekly and 4H demand
I took a confirmation counter trend long on the 4H after break of trend line and opposing zone removed and new demand zone formed.
It turned out to be a loser....Was my train of thought correct?
Thanks in advance

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  • #7,678
  • Sep 4, 2019 2:02am Sep 4, 2019 2:02am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Diddyy The definition of quality has to do with the move away from the zones, the time spent at the levels, the freshness of the level, etc. The removal of an opposing zone is but one of the factors that should be evaluated, but it is not the only one. Hope that helps best wishes
Thank you
  • #7,679
  • Sep 4, 2019 2:58am Sep 4, 2019 2:58am
Quoting Adiga
Hi AKT and everyone This is a losing trade I took on Corn. Sequence is W D 4H. The trend was down, inside Weekly and 4H demand I took a confirmation counter trend long on the 4H after break of trend line and opposing zone removed and new demand zone formed. It turned out to be a loser....Was my train of thought correct? Thanks in advance {image} {image} {image}
Hello Adiga,

Good to meet you and Welcome to T.I.O.F

Thank you for sharing your trade on Corn. It is a market we monitor on the Roundtable as well.

As to your question, please see the charts below for some thoughts i hope may may helpful to you as you review your trade.

A review of the daily may have been useful and made a difference.

Hope it helps

best wishes
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  • #7,680
  • Edited 3:37am Sep 4, 2019 3:24am | Edited 3:37am
Quoting Denden2012
@guiyee I assure you the system is profitable. AKT showing you his statements is irrelevant, he is not selling you anything. He is profitable and so are many of the guys who trade with him, I would know, AKT and I started together. Him proving to you his profitability statements is irrelevant. His profitability will have no bearing on your profitability because we can take the same exact rules, execute them to a tee and have different results. Why? Profitability is dependent on your understanding of the system, ability to leverage that understanding,...
Yes and no.

1. "I assure you the system is profitable."

There is only one step left to make your statement credible. I don't say that you are not credible, simply a lot of people don't know you. So there is only one small step left to convince naysayers and to make your statement credible.

2. "AKT showing you his statements is irrelevant, he is not selling you anything."

AKT is selling here his services, I was contacted by him with the offer, I suppose this is the reason this thread was moved to Commercial Section on FF. It would be encouraging to potential clients to show some evidence that this system works. AKT looks to me like a helpful and polite dude, this is a huge plus I think.

His words that he trades using a different system puts a (little) question mark over this approach.

There is nothing wrong in being an analyst, not everyone wants to be a trader with strong emotional ups and downs of this profession, but you know, one should be honest. I don't say that AKT is not a trader, I don't know that, but something doesn't fit. A successful trader can earn 10, 50, even 100 thousand a month. With experience comes wealth, sometimes huge. The question is why a successful trader needs these additional 2-3 thousand a month?

Yes I know successful traders, millionaires who teach others, I can supply names and all of them show their results, accounts with millions with live trades, before and after. Being good is not a shame, being wealthy is not a shame either.

3. "Profitability is dependent on your understanding of the system, ability to leverage that understanding, money management and your mental/emotional condition at the time of analysis and execution."

Who is the best person to convince you and us that this system is profitable? Do you know someone?

Edit: I would like to add that I personally like this thread, this clean approach, beautiful screens, AKT puts a lot of work (intelligent work I must admit) to this thread, he is a very good contributor, and I think a positive person. His ideas are interesting, original and he applies them systematically through the thread which is also a badge of skillfulness and thorough understanding of the topic. Huge plus. I think he is also a very good and supportive teacher. Huge plus again.
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