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  • #7,621
  • Aug 26, 2019 8:27pm Aug 26, 2019 8:27pm
Quoting malmal1985
{quote} hi TylerL, Good new week My view of your analysis: Large images tend to be strong and clear but: H1 frame, prices are in a state of purchase and sale; H1 areas are too high to buy and too low to sell, the probability of trading is low sory because my english is not good 22/5000 Good new week
hi malmal1985,

Thanks, and don't worry, I understand what you're saying thus far!

Do you mind telling me which chart you're referring to?

Cheers,
TylerL
  • #7,622
  • Aug 26, 2019 8:31pm Aug 26, 2019 8:31pm
Quoting malmal1985
Very happy if you evaluate my orders {image} {image} {image}
Hey malmal1985,

In my opinion, the GBPAUD chart shows a less than ideal H1 supply for a short to be taken off a set and forget basis. You might be able to find better quality supplies on a lower time frame.

For GBPUSD, I have a similar trade thesis, but I have my stop loss below the lows of 1.2108 instead.

AUDNZD looks alright to me!

Cheers,
TylerL
  • #7,623
  • Aug 27, 2019 2:54am Aug 27, 2019 2:54am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Tyler Thank you for sharing your chart on the US market. I presume this is the Nasdaq CFD with this broker. If i may, looking at the chart, i have pointed out some things to consider about the short trade idea Keep up the good work. best wishes. {image}
Hello everyone. I hope you are enjoying some holidays with family and friends. I know i am.
But, as speculators in the markets, we always have an eye on the charts (don't let you partner catch you though)

I wanted to revisit a conversation i had (see above) with you, TylerL, about the US stock market chart.
Worked out well enough once we got confirmation.

best wishes
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  • #7,624
  • Aug 27, 2019 3:02am Aug 27, 2019 3:02am
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone Some thoughts on the UK FTSE100 stock market index best wishes{image}{image}
Hello everyone

Follow up on this trade idea shared above, as quoted, on the UK stock market

best wishes
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  • #7,625
  • Aug 27, 2019 3:28am Aug 27, 2019 3:28am
Quoting Royal146
Hello guys and dear Akt! I'm new to this thread and glad I found it. really helpful. please give me your thoughts on Gold, my timeframe sequence is W-D-4H my analysis is, Weekly is up ( near fresh Supply) - Daily is kinda sideway but up! - H4 is sideway and please explain what's the difference between momentum and trend? please, give me your opinion. Thanks {image} {image} {image}
Hello Royal146.
Good to meet you.
Welcome to T.I.O.F and thanks for posting your thoughts on Gold.
Please see the chart below for some of my thoughts.
If i may, be mindful of zones where there is a lot of trading activity on any timeframe - these are not usually used by supply and demand traders as levels.

With regards to your question about the difference between momentum and trend - its quite a significant one. Trend refers to the direction prices are moving in and within the Supply and demand methodology there are clear definitions for the three trends usually present in the market.

Momentum is a bit different in that it is more concerned with the rate of price movement. There are several ways momentum is measured as you are probably aware. The supply and demand methodology relies a number of different ways for measuring momentum and it is up to the trader's preference. You can use a combination of ways if you wish as well.
For newer traders to the methodology, using momentum lines which are a specific type of trend line is an easy repeatable and consistent way (derived from the work of Tom Demark). It is focused on using the two most recent pivots to measure current momentum - pivot lows for upside momentum, and pivot highs for downside momentum.

A change in momentum is an event in current market movement and is usually the first event (and therefore the most unreliable) that occurs when trends are changing. Removal/creation of price zones is the more confirmatory event.

Hope that helps

best wishes
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  • #7,626
  • Aug 27, 2019 8:24am Aug 27, 2019 8:24am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello everyone. I hope you are enjoying some holidays with family and friends. I know i am. But, as speculators in the markets, we always have an eye on the charts (don't let you partner catch you though) I wanted to revisit a conversation i had (see above) with you, TylerL, about the US stock market chart. Worked out well enough once we got confirmation. best wishes{image}
Hey Akt!

Yes I saw that trade as well, but decided to sit it out as I wanted to see the removal of the H4 demand removed before going short. Since it didn't, I was uncomfortable going short despite the supply that was formed which caused prices to lose momentum.

On the other hand, I managed to get short on AUS200. Closed out 2/3 of my position when prices arrived at the H4 proximal and attempted to trail the remaining 1/3, but got taken out of the trade quite quickly following my first profit.

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Very nice textbook trade on the FTSE by the way!

Cheers,
TylerL
  • #7,627
  • Aug 27, 2019 9:39am Aug 27, 2019 9:39am
Quoting TylerL
{quote} Hi Royal146, While I cannot give you the exact definition of a market in a trend or its momentum (different methodologies have different ways of defining trends), I can attempt to explain how the supply and demand methodology defines it. In an up trending market, prices respect demand zones formed on the move up. The trend is lost when a demand zone is traded past. On the other hand, in a down trending market, prices respect supply zones and do not trade past supply zones. For market momentum, a trend line is drawn, low to higher low (up...
Thank you, Taylor, appreciate your help.
  • #7,628
  • Edited Aug 28, 2019 2:45am Aug 27, 2019 9:43am | Edited Aug 28, 2019 2:45am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Royal146. Good to meet you. Welcome to T.I.O.F and thanks for posting your thoughts on Gold. Please see the chart below for some of my thoughts. If i may, be mindful of zones where there is a lot of trading activity on any timeframe - these are not usually used by supply and demand traders as levels. With regards to your question about the difference between momentum and trend - its quite a significant one. Trend refers to the direction prices are moving in and within the Supply and demand methodology there are clear definitions for...
Thanks, dear Michael, I've drawn a pattern about trend and momentum, what do you think about it?
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  • #7,629
  • Aug 27, 2019 10:11am Aug 27, 2019 10:11am
Hi everyone, one more potential set up before heading off to bed.

Looking to get long on the USDCAD H1 demand following CFM rules met after prices entering D1 demand. Similarly, looking to take 2/3 profits at the H4 supply and trail the remaining 1/3 for final profits at the top of range, 1.334 level

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Have a great night/ day ahead everyone!

Cheers,
TylerL
  • #7,630
  • Aug 28, 2019 3:46am Aug 28, 2019 3:46am
Hi everyone, was just looking at some charts during my break and spotted this short entry on the AUS200. Didn't take the short due the large spread on my broker.

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Cheers,
TylerL
  • #7,631
  • Aug 28, 2019 10:49am Aug 28, 2019 10:49am
I was looking at Pfizer, wondering if the selling would ever end and thought I'd share what I came up with on the Monthly, Weekly, Daily combo.

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  • #7,632
  • Aug 28, 2019 8:07pm Aug 28, 2019 8:07pm
Good morning traders!

Confirmation long on bitcoin, H1 time frame?

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Cheers,
TylerL
  • #7,633
  • Aug 28, 2019 8:24pm Aug 28, 2019 8:24pm
Quoting cpuz
I was looking at Pfizer, wondering if the selling would ever end and thought I'd share what I came up with on the Monthly, Weekly, Daily combo. {image}{image}{image}
Hey there cpuz,

These are what I think is happening in the markets currently.

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Cheers,
TylerL
  • #7,634
  • Aug 29, 2019 2:56pm Aug 29, 2019 2:56pm
Quoting TylerL
{quote} Hey there cpuz, These are what I think is happening in the markets currently. {image} {image} {image} Cheers, TylerL
Thanks @TylerL,

I see the logic on the Monthly, and didn't see that 3rd DBR on the Daily to enable the aggr momentum line.

But on your weekly I have a question.
I'm new to this, trying to progress from n00b. I think I have the major rules down, but still trying to figure out all of the micro ins and outs of the dependency logic.
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  • #7,635
  • Aug 29, 2019 8:28pm Aug 29, 2019 8:28pm
Good morning traders yet again!

A chart that isof interest to me today

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Have a great day ahead everyone!

Cheers,
TylerL
  • #7,636
  • Aug 29, 2019 8:37pm Aug 29, 2019 8:37pm
Quoting cpuz
{quote} Thanks @TylerL, I see the logic on the Monthly, and didn't see that 3rd DBR on the Daily to enable the aggr momentum line. But on your weekly I have a question. I'm new to this, trying to progress from n00b. I think I have the major rules down, but still trying to figure out all of the micro ins and outs of the dependency logic. {image}
Hi cpuz!

Yes you're right, there are weekly demand zones that I (conveniently) left out. The zones which were not drawn in had deep penetrations which I would be uncomfortable taking trades off them. Nonetheless, they can still be traded if there's a deeper penetration relative to the previous, triggering the order blocks below, and increasing the odds with a lower time frame entry.

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As a guide, I have coloured the candles with less than 50% to show up as a clear candle as this made my search for the bases easier (But when looking for potential supply and demand zones, you should look for the extended moves instead of the bases). And in this example, given the move away from each zone, i was able to draw the DBD zones as per the screenshot i've shared.

Cheers,
TylerL
  • #7,637
  • Aug 31, 2019 7:43pm Aug 31, 2019 7:43pm
Hi, A request to Akt.

I checked out S&D some years ago but moved on simply because I didn't have enough time to learn it all. Now I'm retired I'd like to revisit it. You have some 381 pages on this thread so for a newbie its difficult to know where to find the fundamentals of S&D within those pages. Can you please point me to relevant posts/pages herein or a third party source for education.

Many thanks in anticipation of your assistance.

Alex
  • #7,638
  • Sep 1, 2019 8:45am Sep 1, 2019 8:45am
Hey guys

I have a question about SL :
how much pip should I consider above or below the S/D zone if my Entry is in
H1
H4
or
Dl?
  • #7,639
  • Sep 2, 2019 1:20am Sep 2, 2019 1:20am
Quoting Bacchus
Hi, A request to Akt. I checked out S&D some years ago but moved on simply because I didn't have enough time to learn it all. Now I'm retired I'd like to revisit it. You have some 381 pages on this thread so for a newbie its difficult to know where to find the fundamentals of S&D within those pages. Can you please point me to relevant posts/pages herein or a third party source for education. Many thanks in anticipation of your assistance. Alex
Hello Bacchus
Welcome Welcome to T.I.O.F, good to have you
I hope retirement is treating you well

Here is a link to the sister youtube channel where i post video analysis. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBf..._as=subscriber
It should be a useful addition to your learning.

When you are ready for more formal and private education please do send me an email or private message and we can get you started.

Welcome again

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #7,640
  • Sep 2, 2019 1:21am Sep 2, 2019 1:21am
Quoting Royal146
Hey guys I have a question about SL : how much pip should I consider above or below the S/D zone if my Entry is in H1 H4 or Dl?
Hello Royal146

There are several ways to place stoplosses that are taught within the methodology. The general rule of thumb is a minimum of 4 pips above a zone

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
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