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  • #6,441
  • Aug 25, 2019 10:37pm Aug 25, 2019 10:37pm
Quoting 7thTorch
{quote} ahhh..nice part of the world Aussi... far away...was once in Sidney...
gold county mate thats why am here
people leave, but this thread will go on for ever
  • #6,442
  • Aug 25, 2019 10:42pm Aug 25, 2019 10:42pm
Quoting digger1
{quote} lol,, well the ones tht sold where the shit rolled over locking some in because its in a spot where wht may show up 9080 is neck line ,, but on a mkt tht has been going up ,, neck line dont hold whats the next level up ? thenn the next till its what ,, retesting a fresh high ,, neck line breaks it will shake to where ? or at least make an attempt to where ? it aint always about the little sliver of time ya see on a expanded chart on a phone or a normal looking chart for tht matter ,, only thing Im trying to say bud ,, level levels levels...
I’m down 24 pips on 1 position and down 4 pips on the other. Do you think that’s too many to be down? Have you ever been down 24 pips?
ex nihilo
  • #6,443
  • Aug 25, 2019 10:51pm Aug 25, 2019 10:51pm
I have 11 positions open buy and sell. On a weekly. Trade safe. Will hold these positions for a while.
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  • #6,444
  • Aug 25, 2019 10:56pm Aug 25, 2019 10:56pm
Quoting Oc6oph
{quote} I’m down 24 pips on 1 position and down 4 pips on the other. Do you think that’s too many to be down? Have you ever been down 24 pips?
for me yes ,, truthfully ,, tht is a missed traded with runners either gonna get mor or +1 ,, but we dont have the same style,,,, as it stands I have no skin in it ,, but if I did I would be sht from res looking to take out tht weekly low but also knowing back above tht 4 hour 200 area ,, they would be exited and watching for the right shit to take a ride back up ,,,, I just have had it up since we yaked about it ,, like I told ya man ,, I want everybody to get all they can ,,the mkt will make more it just does ,, but the normal trading bullshit is not gonna get it it,,, just dont lol,, your okay yet but would watch it close here ,, if ya close it will drop ,, if ya dont it will go up ,,, thts where yours are at ,, dont matter what ya do here it will be wrong ,, thts trading like real estate,, location location location ,, its level level level ,, no matter which way you are trying to go so if a bit wrong you can still salvage something
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  • #6,445
  • Aug 25, 2019 11:02pm Aug 25, 2019 11:02pm
Lol,, I get down 20 I know I was wrong ,, Ill probably lose 40 or then I start looking at where I should of been watching to begin with ,, snap the ole rubber band on the wrist a few times look in the mirror and say hey dumbass ya seen it ,, wht the fuck made ya think this time would be different lol,, then I get on with my day
  • #6,446
  • Aug 25, 2019 11:03pm Aug 25, 2019 11:03pm
Quoting digger1
{quote} for me yes ,, truthfully ,, tht is a missed traded with runners either gonna get mor or +1 ,, but we dont have the same style,,,, as it stands I have no skin in it ,, but if I did I would be sht from res looking to take out tht weekly low but also knowing back above tht 4 hour 200 area ,, they would be exited and watching for the right shit to take a ride back up ,,,, I just have had it up since we yaked about it ,, like I told ya man ,, I want everybody to get all they can ,,the mkt will make more it just does ,, but the normal trading...
Well it’s based on daily chart 24 pips isn’t much on a daily chart to me. It’s unlikely to get trades right to the pip. If you trade higher time frames you’re going to be underwater several pips sometimes.
ex nihilo
  • #6,447
  • Aug 25, 2019 11:09pm Aug 25, 2019 11:09pm
Quoting Oc6oph
{quote} Well it’s based on daily chart 24 pips isn’t much on a daily chart to me. It’s unlikely to get trades right to the pip. If you trade higher time frames you’re going to be underwater several pips sometimes.
If one dont know what a daily chart is doing they will never scalp effectively ,,never ,, everybody always says swing trading is the way and yea your goinna be under water at times ,, well if one cant trade one day and make some of wht the mkt offers ,, wht makes one think trading a longer time period they are gonna do better over time ,, ya get the same shit on little charts but one has got to know whts playing on the bigger charts with the same fucking patterns ,, above and below some shit and what levels one needs to py attention too what patterns are there what pieces do I have , the daily chart is the big boy scalping chart nothing more nothing less
  • #6,448
  • Edited 11:24pm Aug 25, 2019 11:14pm | Edited 11:24pm
so trade a longer time frame with small positions ,, at some point in time it will come back right ,,right?,, problem is the ones ya enter at better areas are only helping to get the fucked up entries back to even ,, then if ya happen to be wrong ,, they all get wiped and ya lose anyway ,, just takes longer ,, one is just as wrong,, its a chess match everyday ,, some days are long days in a down mkt ,, some are the opposite,, all depends on what level holds or folds,, obviously the longer the chart the little better clue at wht is long term ,, tht doesent mean there wont be swings on a daily chart against the grain ,, but one still has to know and keep the shit tgted to appropriate levels because as stated as a weeks worth of head and shoulder patterns on a minute chart from some level will eventually show and price will drop ,, same thing happens with a daily chart then ya get the big moves on the weekly and monthly charts ,, thts all Im trying to point out Oc ,, evrything is always the same but never quite the same lol,, but what never changes is above shit ya buy ,, below shit ya sell till it isint,,, ya milk it for what its worth why guess at it
  • #6,449
  • Aug 25, 2019 11:17pm Aug 25, 2019 11:17pm
Quoting digger1
{quote} If one dont know what a daily chart is doing they will never scalp effectively ,,never ,, everybody always says swing trading is the way and yea your goinna be under water at times ,, well if one cant trade one day and make some of wht the mkt offers ,, wht makes one think trading a longer time period they are gonna do better over time ,, ya get the same shit on little charts but one has got to know whts playing on the bigger charts with the same fucking patterns ,, above and below some shit and what levels one needs to py attention too...
Daily chart gives stronger signals than these lower time frames that’s why. I don’t base trades off lower time frames just noise to me
ex nihilo
  • #6,450
  • Aug 25, 2019 11:29pm Aug 25, 2019 11:29pm
Quoting Oc6oph
{quote} Daily chart gives stronger signals than these lower time frames that’s why. I don’t base trades off lower time frames just noise to me
wht transpires on an hourly chart gives one a damn good clue wht is gonna transpire on a daily chart from certain levels and it still comes down to a level ,, a sup tht holds or folds and a res tht holds or folds ,, nothing more nothing less,, buying something getting sold does not pay ,,selling something getting bought does not pay ,, no matter wht it looks like ,, learning wht the chess match looks like on a smaller time frame pays well ,, and in the end positioned right for a bigger move ,, if wrong well a + 1 is better than nothing or missing some out of acct lol
  • #6,451
  • Aug 25, 2019 11:41pm Aug 25, 2019 11:41pm
Quoting Oc6oph
{quote} Daily chart gives stronger signals than these lower time frames that’s why. I don’t base trades off lower time frames just noise to me
Not finding fault or trying to point to a better way ,, its not easy no matter how ya do it ,, its just I spent years where most are at ,, going no where ,, never coming close to what the mkt offers ,, been there done tht ,, dropped the bullshit and moved on ,, I have my days ,, lol,, you do better than most ,, but your good runs get chewed up slowly ,, holding ya back ,, for most the best way to make a small fortune in trading is to start with a huge fortune ,, tht happens falling for the bull shit tht is constantly spewed at them about trading ,,, easy no ,, rocket science ,,no ,, magical mystical or any of the other bullshit no ,, just a level ,,, buy it ,, sell it ,, or tgt it ,, find a way to roll with the mkt as its doing it ,
  • #6,452
  • Aug 25, 2019 11:43pm Aug 25, 2019 11:43pm
Quoting digger1
{quote} wht transipers on an hourly chart gives one a damn good clue wht is gonna transpire on a daily chart from certain levels and it still comes down to a level ,, a sup tht holds or folds and a res tht holds or folds ,, nothing more nothing less
Well EG based on daily and H1 would give me too many false signals I like H4 too
ex nihilo
  • #6,453
  • Aug 25, 2019 11:45pm Aug 25, 2019 11:45pm
What’s bullshit I was watching trades
ex nihilo
  • #6,454
  • Aug 25, 2019 11:48pm Aug 25, 2019 11:48pm
Quoting Oc6oph
{quote} Well EG based on daily and H1 would give me too many false signals I like H4 too
dont see much false about above or below some shit,, now its back to what sent er up the last time ,, time to py attention ,, work with what the mkt gives ya and forget the lousy rocket formula predictions ,, and the stipulations such as the mkt must do this or it must do tht ,, it dont have to do shit ,, either buyers are gonna show up and start turning it or sellers are gonna keep whacking er down a level at a time
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  • #6,455
  • Aug 25, 2019 11:55pm Aug 25, 2019 11:55pm
Quoting digger1
{quote} dont see much false about above or below some shit,, now its back to what sent er up the last time ,, time to py attention ,, work with what the mkt gives ya and forget the lousy rocket formula predictions ,, and the stipulations such as the mkt must do this or it must do tht ,, it dont have to do shit ,, either buyers are gonna show up and start turning it or sellers are gonna keep whacking er down a level at a time {image}
No predictions on EG just good signal but anything can happen
ex nihilo
  • #6,456
  • Aug 26, 2019 12:01am Aug 26, 2019 12:01am
And about right there is the neck line on the daily chart right around a break out level where it went to some pretty lofty highs with all the good support underneath and a tgt above yet ,,, what s a mkt do ,, breaks a level retests it and continues on ,or it dont ,, the chess match will decide,, swing from the best levels possible lol like all the ones dropping running out shit to the left to help prop them up ,, this one running out of shit to hold er down
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  • #6,457
  • Aug 26, 2019 12:07am Aug 26, 2019 12:07am
Quoting Oc6oph
{quote} No predictions on EG just good signal but anything can happen
only prediction tht can be made is if it gets back above some shit ,, it will start getting bought I mean there is a what to the left , A previous high I do believe lol,, if not it wont ,, easy right lol
  • #6,458
  • Aug 26, 2019 12:13am Aug 26, 2019 12:13am
in the mean time ,, the aud the nzd has done what ,, hit the breaks and few more sht shekels ,, tht 100 you was looking for getting close on just useing wht the mkt pointed out
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  • #6,459
  • Aug 26, 2019 12:13am Aug 26, 2019 12:13am
Quoting digger1
{quote} only prediction tht can be made is if it gets back above some shit ,, it will start getting bought I mean there is a what to the left , A previous high I do believe lol,, if not it wont ,, easy right lol
I had short signal so I took the trade. If I lose oh well part of it. I used to watch an investor trader on YouTube and he used a derogatory words to describe traders who would buy up here lol
ex nihilo
  • #6,460
  • Aug 26, 2019 12:16am Aug 26, 2019 12:16am
Quoting Oc6oph
{quote} I had short signal so I took the trade. If I lose oh well part of it. I used to watch an investor trader on YouTube and he used a derogatory words to describe traders who would buy up here lol
Hate to have him for an adviser ,, lol,,,, 70 % of the time he would be right ,, the 30 % of the time he wasent takes mom and pops savings ,, he would be fine ,, but mom and pop wont be
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