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  • #5,181
  • Aug 17, 2019 8:45pm Aug 17, 2019 8:45pm
A high ,, a low ,, a midpoint ,, same ole shit ,, now its above the main 3 biggies and a weekly close right at a mid point ,,,, Im sure tht tweet was the reason to blame shit on
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  • #5,182
  • Aug 17, 2019 8:46pm Aug 17, 2019 8:46pm
Quoting digger1
A high ,, a low ,, a midpoint ,, same ole shit ,, now its above the main 3 biggies and a weekly close right at a mid point ,,,, Im sure tht tweet was really a reason to blame shit on {image}
If you wait for price to be above everything wouldn’t you miss hundreds of pips also where would you place stop
ex nihilo
  • #5,183
  • Aug 17, 2019 8:50pm Aug 17, 2019 8:50pm
think of the daily chart swings as trees in a forest ,, somethime to get a picture of the forest one needs to look from an airplane view ,, and a little snippet on a chart on a phone ,, dont even show a whole tree
  • #5,184
  • Aug 17, 2019 8:55pm Aug 17, 2019 8:55pm
Quoting digger1
think of the daily chart swings as trees in a forest ,, somethime to get a picture of the forest one needs to look from an airplane view ,, and a little snippet on a chart on a phone ,, dont even show a whole tree
I just post from phone because I’m on the forum on my phone and it’s faster. but I have computer I use too for trading. I have MT4 on phone because I don’t like leaving my trades used to take laptop everywhere I went but got tired of doing that and it looked silly
ex nihilo
  • #5,185
  • Aug 17, 2019 9:01pm Aug 17, 2019 9:01pm
do you really think the ones tht bought tht shoulder at the very bottom on the retest of the daily 200 is crying about them pips from there to the bottom if they are still holding ,, do ya think any whining about it from ones who bought the area where it 1st the crossed weekly 200 hell they are the same ones tht sold the monthly then bough it back up from tht level ,, ,, its all about what holds what folds ,, its just picking levels off one at a time ,, but if one doesent do it with the mkt guess what ya dont make anywhere near what the mkt offers it dont matter the time frame ,, worse most just do what they always do because thts what is shoved in your face its just the way ya have to trade ,,, ya cant fight a mkt or go by looks all one can do is find the pieces and go with what they tell ya ,,,, everything is always the same but its never quite the same ,,,, and those patterns as stated ,, enough of them kick ones ass tht after a while you improvise and adapt and find better ways top roll with a mkt not just do the same ole thing ,,, and over all one will always do better trading what a chart says is known,,, above some shit your buying below some shit your selling and ya fucking do tht till it dont work any more
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  • #5,186
  • Aug 17, 2019 9:03pm Aug 17, 2019 9:03pm
Quoting Oc6oph
Aussi how does an EA work?
very unsure mate but if i look at the stats on ea,s i have a far far better win rate
people leave, but this thread will go on for ever
  • #5,187
  • Aug 17, 2019 9:06pm Aug 17, 2019 9:06pm
Quoting digger1
do you really think the ones tht bought tht shoulder at the very bottom on the retest of the daily 200 is crying about them pips from there to the bottom if they are still holding ,, do ya think any whining about it from ones who bought the area where it 1st the crossed weekly 200 hell they are the same ones tht sold the monthly then bough it back up from tht level ,, ,, its all about what holds what folds ,, its just picking levels off one at a time ,, but if one doesent do it with the mkt guess what ya dont make anywhere near what the mkt offers...
Buying tops is risky to me I’d like to see some of your trades in real time to get better understanding of stop placement and entry
ex nihilo
  • #5,188
  • Aug 17, 2019 9:09pm Aug 17, 2019 9:09pm
Quoting Oc6oph
{quote} Buying tops is risky to me I’d like to see some of your trades in real time to get better understanding of stop placement and entry
lol,,70 percent of the time you will be fine ,,,,the 30 percent your not is when those tops or bottom are suddenly not a top or bottom anymore,, the ea trade tho was not a top it was a shoulder level ,, now there is a new top
  • #5,189
  • Aug 17, 2019 9:16pm Aug 17, 2019 9:16pm
Quoting digger1
{quote} lol,,70 percent of the time you will be fine ,,,,the 30 percent your not is when those tops or bottom are suddenly not a top or bottom anymore,, the ea trade tho was not a top it was a shoulder level ,, now there is a new top
I guess you’re focusing on moving averages for entry but these moving averages lag it seems and not sure how I’d use them in real time
ex nihilo
  • #5,190
  • Aug 17, 2019 9:47pm Aug 17, 2019 9:47pm
Quoting Oc6oph
{quote} I guess you’re focusing on moving averages for entry but these moving averages lag it seems and not sure how I’d use them in real time
something gets in a range they run about the middle ,, when something takes off they dont lag they point where some follw thru is going to come in ,, then ya look to see what levels are around ,, right to the pip lol,, nothing is ,,,,, but wheres the lag,, long one is 4 hour 200 sht one same as m15 200 yellow is weekly ave price they are just guides ,, damn good ones tho ,, everything dont care what it is always comes down to the numbers and averages lol,, but where exactly is the lag ,, if one keeps track of levels where price crosses them or what happens when they get to them the lag argument is no longer an argument ,, they get used period . above or below the big ones one should pay attention
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  • #5,191
  • Aug 17, 2019 9:54pm Aug 17, 2019 9:54pm
Quoting digger1
{quote} something gets in a range they run about the middle ,, when something takes off they dont lag they point where some follw thru is going to come in ,, then ya look to see what levels are around ,, right to the pip lol,, nothing is ,,,,, but wheres the lag,, long one is 4 hour 200 sht one same as m15 200 yellow is weekly ave price they are just guides ,, damn good ones tho ,, everything dont care what it is always comes down to the numbers and averages lol,, but where exactly is the lag ,, if one keeps track of levels where price crosses them...
Thank you for showing but in real time these moving averages can be tricky
ex nihilo
  • #5,192
  • Aug 17, 2019 10:10pm Aug 17, 2019 10:10pm
Quoting Oc6oph
{quote} Thank you for showing but in real time these moving averages can be tricky
trickey part is holding em for the next level ,, you knew my reasons for shting the nzd and aud ,, I did buy the nzd once last week trying to fill in the spike candle,, bought the aud once or twice when I happened to be around by good cp a line drawn from where it Is crossed the m15 200 back yonder was my sup and my area to take a swin with a tight stp ,, the hourly 200 has to go to worry about anything beyond tht ,, the 8 hour stochs is trying to go up but one dont hold till it at least holds the m15 it haesnt and know its in danger of not holding shit ,, thts a range type ,, just a naked chart with nothing else on it ,, my normal charts have more shit as you know ,, but tht just over a week of trading ,, there was plenty even in a slow mover
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The eur one of the most heavily traded and most liquid on the plant actually repects average about the best ,, forgot to put hourly 200 on this but the little aqua one is nothing more than a 1500 min average or a rough daily average price ,,, hell hasent even mad it up to m15 200 area since the touch where it rolled over
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  • #5,193
  • Aug 17, 2019 10:13pm Aug 17, 2019 10:13pm
Quoting digger1
{quote} trickey part is holding em for the next level ,, you knew my reasons for shting the nzd and aud ,, I did buy the nzd once last week trying to fill in the spike candle,, bought the aud once or twice when I happened to be around by good cp a line drawn from where it Is crossed the m15 200 back yonder was my sup and my area to take a swin with a tight stp ,, the hourly 200 has to go to worry about anything beyond tht ,, the 8 hour stochs is trying to go up but one dont hold till it at least holds the m15 it haesnt and know its in danger of...
Yes I have 200 sma on my chart. EURUSD gets near or above it on H4 then drops a lot of the time. It formed range just below 200 sma on H4. Was expecting it to get above 200sma and range for a bit but it didn’t
ex nihilo
  • #5,194
  • Aug 17, 2019 10:20pm Aug 17, 2019 10:20pm
In hind sight why the fuck I even thought about longs in the nzd is beyond me lol,, but a few plus 1 stop outs,,, always want to mark tht 1st blip on any sharp drop down like tht ,, in the end there wasent one reason pointed out by the charts to be a buyer , the aud news spike there got me all excited lol, was a spot to take a swing with a tight stp tho maybe sub consciously trying to help my bud out lol
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  • #5,195
  • Aug 17, 2019 10:28pm Aug 17, 2019 10:28pm
Quoting digger1
In hind sight why the fuck I even thought about longs in the nzd is beyond me lol,, but a few plus 1 stop outs,,, always want to mark tht 1st blip on any sharp drop down like tht ,, in the end there wasent one reason pointed out by the charts to be a buyer , the aud news spike there got me all excited lol, was a spot to take a swing with a tight stp tho maybe sub consciously trying to help my bud out lol {image}
Lol I assumed a lot of people would be shorting at retest of 6490 and their would be short squeeze. I looked on trade view and most people had short ideas so figured longs would be best but retail people probably have no impact on the market
ex nihilo
  • #5,196
  • Aug 17, 2019 10:38pm Aug 17, 2019 10:38pm
we covered the gbp already ,, tht bitch is a beast so any tool ya got should be utilized ,, chart posted a ways back on what I used ,, but averages and a tight stop will get ya something ,, its all in how much practice ya got using your tools ,, Do I get them all perfect ,, hell no Im human ,, I know when I fucked up tho and get out then wait for where I shoulve been looking to begin with ,, hell Im in and out so much tired all the time ,, far from being at the top of my game all the time I could have 25 trades or more in a day time ,, hell some days it takes me tht many to get the right entry so I can move my stp to plus one and walk away lol
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  • #5,197
  • Aug 17, 2019 10:40pm Aug 17, 2019 10:40pm
Quoting Oc6oph
{quote} Lol I assumed a lot of people would be shorting at retest of 6490 and their would be short squeeze. I looked on trade view and most people had short ideas so figured longs would be best but retail people probably have no impact on the market
some of tht trading jargon tht dont mean shit when its all said and done ,, whats the chart tell ya thts all tht matters
  • #5,198
  • Aug 17, 2019 10:44pm Aug 17, 2019 10:44pm
Quoting digger1
we covered the gbp already ,, tht bitch is a beast so any tool ya got should be utilized ,, chart posted a ways back on what I used ,, but averages and a tight stop will get ya something ,, its all in how much practice ya got using your tools ,, Do I get them all perfect ,, hell no Im human ,, I know when I fucked up tho and get out then wait for where I shoulve been looking to begin with ,, hell Im in and out so much tired all the time ,, far from being at the top of my game all the time I could have 25 trades or more in a day time ,, hell some...
Yes I’m going to start focusing more on GBP it has some really good moves. But doesn’t moving stop up too soon get you taken out of winning trades
ex nihilo
  • #5,199
  • Aug 17, 2019 10:47pm Aug 17, 2019 10:47pm
Quoting Oc6oph
{quote} Yes I’m going to start focusing more on GBP it has some really good moves. But doesn’t moving stop up too soon get you taken out of winning trades
yep lots of runners taken out ,, but I never come back to a - 30 -50 or - what ever the hell I moved a sto to to sty in a trade ,, hell it goes tht far I was wrong and Id rather be out lol Id rathjer move profit tgts up if Im still in a trade
  • #5,200
  • Aug 17, 2019 10:50pm Aug 17, 2019 10:50pm
There is always another ride some where ,, never look back lol,,
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