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  • #5,841
  • Aug 16, 2019 9:22pm Aug 16, 2019 9:22pm
Quoting alblive
question, is there any way to use the indicator through a saved template? (i know it would usually make the indicator malfunction). applying new indicators and color schemes to all pairs used is time consuming not a big deal, just wondering....
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is there any way to use the indicator through a saved template?
@alblive -- I don't know.

I think problems might arise if people include additional indicators. The BD (BDX) is a CPU hog. Furthermore, MT4 executes each chart (with all its indicators) in a single thread with a limited CPU time slice. When the time slice ends then MT4 switches to the next chart, regardless if all computations and drawings were completed. This leads to undefined behavior.

So -- you can try using a template and if it is just color changes then I would expect that to be okay. But I would be hesitant to add additional indicators. Perhaps give it a try, experiment a bit, and then let us know how it goes.
  • #5,842
  • Aug 16, 2019 9:25pm Aug 16, 2019 9:25pm
Quoting robots4me
{quote} {quote} @alblive -- I don't know. I think problems might arise if people include additional indicators. The BD (BDX) is a CPU hog. Furthermore, MT4 executes each chart (with all its indicators) in a single thread with a limited CPU time slice. When the time slice ends then MT4 switches to the next chart, regardless if all computations and drawings were completed. This leads to undefined behavior. So -- you can try using a template and if it is just color changes then I would expect that to be okay. But I would be hesitant to add additional...

i will test it out.
  • #5,843
  • Aug 16, 2019 10:18pm Aug 16, 2019 10:18pm
Quoting alblive
{quote} i will test it out.

Symbol changer profit display v3

I have been using this with 28 pairs and getting by, but can be slow when I start up PC then log into broker ( AxiTrader MT4 ), the buttons change colour on open trades, green or red, profit or loss.

Enjoy your weekend.

Donald
  • #5,844
  • Edited Aug 17, 2019 1:34am Aug 16, 2019 11:31pm | Edited Aug 17, 2019 1:34am
First I would like to say big Thank you Robots4me for this system. I come late when ADR system was already quite mature (lots of work done). I installed it and tried to forward test it (slow process) on a small real account. And so far it worked very well, even when I was absolutely impatient (entering earlier from smaller TFs) and messed with ADR settings etc. I tried to use ADR-BDX with original settings (TF 10080 and %ADR 100) and tried to reduce %ADR to 80 (despite it was recommended to keep it at 100 just to initiate signals a bit earlier to observe signals in real time). I also, for my curiosity mostly, put NIH98 Centered multiband with monthly (43200) setting to see where ADR-BDX weekly setting is in relation to NIX Monthly setting. I was amazed how nicely BDX flowed from one NIH98 monthly "bank" to another. When ADR-BDX bands were approaching or overshooting NIH98 bands I had most reliable signals, IMHO (tried on different pairs). I found ADR Heiken Ashi based entry signals to be very reliable, especially when price, (probably news driven) shoot over ADR bands 40-60 pips and then moved another 10-15 pips to the full move exhaustion. Then when I got ADR signal it worked out super good; I felt more confident to push buy or sell button. It also helped to control emotions and be more disciplined. I am looking forward to test drive a new version but I found this current one was already very good. I traded it manually, may be that is why I messed up with my entries. I like to show a couple of trades, one i opened on M30 (from cell phone from work) and then followed on H4. H4 did not have entry signal yet when I sold USDCAD(edited) and it went against me about 30 pips but slowly and surely went direction I hoped for. I closed it today on Friday with almost 50 pips, after I closed it went another 10 or so pips. Thank you again for all the efforts and patience.
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  • #5,845
  • Aug 17, 2019 12:37am Aug 17, 2019 12:37am
Quoting Cheiser
First I would like to say big Thank you Robots4me for this system. I come late when ADR system was already quite mature (lots of work done). I installed it and tried to forward test it (slow process) on a small real account. And so far it worked very well, even when I was absolutely impatient (entering earlier from smaller TFs) and messed with ADR settings etc. I tried to use ADR-BDX with original settings (TF 10080 and %ADR 100) and tried to reduce %ADR to 80 (despite it was recommended to keep it at 100 just to initiate signals a bit earlier to...

@Cheiser -- excellent post, thank you. Good testing, good information, good sharing... You've accepted our trading system in the spirit it was offered. This has always been a work in progress. It was never presented as a polished, commercial product. And the hope was / is people would accept that and feel empowered to test and experiment and share their results. Your results give me confidence we are on the right track and also give me things to think about.

Also, I really, really like that you compared with @Nih98's indicators and shared your observations. If it isn't yet clear to everyone, there are many envelope-type strategies that create bands looking for spikes or extreme prices. The BD (BDX) strategy is yet another envelope-type strategy. They all have similarities. They all can be incorporated into a profitable trading system. The main thing that sets BD (BDX) apart from other envelope-type strategies is its use of ADR as the offset from the midline. In the case of @Nih98's bands I'm pretty sure that one of those bands comes pretty close to the ADR -- so it is perfectly fine to use his bands for comparison.

I also like what you said about ADR Heiken Ashi-based Entry signals to be very reliable. That's what @bishopdotun also found and then encouraged me to go in that direction.

The new BDX strategy will work very similarly to the current BD strategy -- so my expectation is that performance will be similar. Furthermore, the BDX strategy will be even simpler to use because (a) it doesn't repaint, (b) there are fewer options to choose from. I've taken what I've learned from BD and incorporated that into BDX. Also, it will be much easier for me to maintain the BDX strategy. And though some people might think that is selfish of me, they should understand that since I'm just a volunteer here then if I get tired or bored then I can easily move on. The easier it is for me to maintain the BDX strategy then the greater the probability it keeps me interested. I have no plans of going anywhere in the near future -- I'm just pointing out that for practical purposes it needs to be something that can be easily maintained.
  • #5,846
  • Edited 4:44am Aug 17, 2019 3:46am | Edited 4:44am
Sorry about that.
Moving on.
  • #5,847
  • Aug 17, 2019 3:58am Aug 17, 2019 3:58am
Quoting FiveRows
{quote} @robots4me Ok. I've sifted through some of the public opinions and thoughts and came up with a few needed questions. 1. What's a rough ETA on the BDX system. 2. Will there be All Pairs and Dashboard included. 3. Will there be a fail safe SL built in. eg:Fraction of ADR. 4. Will there be the option to keep using Midline and Opposite band exits, or something extra. 5. Would there be less signals generated, the higher the time frame you go. (Since you removed the variable time frame option) 6. Will there still be a max trade option. 7. And...
@FiveRows -- are you pulling my leg?
  • #5,848
  • Edited 8:38am Aug 17, 2019 4:05am | Edited 8:38am
Quoting robots4me
{quote} @FiveRows -- are you pulling my leg?
You could say that I was.
There's no obligation (edit) to answer any questions.
  • #5,849
  • Aug 17, 2019 4:15am Aug 17, 2019 4:15am
Quoting FiveRows
{quote} You could say that I was. There's no obligation.
@FiveRows -- could you please clarify because I was about to lay it on thick. We don't know each other and communicating via posts leaves a lot to be desired. And we both know there are no shortage of arrogant, self-serving, attention-starved lonely men trolling the threads here. And for all I know you are one of them. I mean, I just finished dealing with another one earlier today.

So -- was your post serious or not?

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You could say that I was. There's no obligation.
I don't know what this means. You must have figured out that my preferred way of communicating is being direct. This passive / aggressive BS causes my brain to pucker-up.
  • #5,850
  • Aug 17, 2019 4:43am Aug 17, 2019 4:43am
Quoting robots4me
{quote} @FiveRows -- could you please clarify because I was about to lay it on thick. We don't know each other and communicating via posts leaves a lot to be desired. And we both know there are no shortage of arrogant, self-serving, attention-starved lonely men trolling the threads here. And for all I know you are one of them. I mean, I just finished dealing with another one earlier today. So -- was your post serious or not? {quote} I don't know what this means. You must have figured out that my preferred way of communicating is being direct. This...
@robots4me
I apologize for the post. It was a pun, prank, humor, and clearly I was out of line.
I understand your a very serious person, and this is not the place to troll on your thread. I have no Ill harm or malicious intent towards you, or anyone.
I'm also very serious about your project, and I guess sometimes my jovial nature can get the better of me.
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  • #5,851
  • Aug 17, 2019 4:48am Aug 17, 2019 4:48am
Quoting FiveRows
{quote} ....... 7. And as an optional bonus question, by public demand. If you expect us to run your EA to make us wealthy, would you kindly go to the trouble of running all back tests/forward tests, for every pair and time frame, and give us the best settings and set files. And if Allpairs is included, could you sift through, choosing the best pairs and timeframe to run. Set files included of course. Time is very precious for most of us. We just don't have the time to go through and sort out the best settings. If you expect us to succeed, we would...
This question, though I wonder who the public is, and if serious, is a total joke and insult to r4me and smells like someone or associate from "OTHER" thread is trying to stir things up again.

Some of your questions already answered, you should have sifted more carefully.

Regards,
Blackeagle
  • #5,852
  • Aug 17, 2019 5:00am Aug 17, 2019 5:00am
Quoting FiveRows
{quote} @robots4me I apologize for the post. It was a pun, prank, humor, and clearly I was out of line. I understand your a very serious person, and this is not the place to troll on your thread. I have no Ill harm or malicious intent towards you, or anyone. I'm also very serious about your project, and I guess sometimes my jovial nature can get the better of me. Post has been edited.
@FiveRows -- all's cool. Though I am serious I also value humor -- especially sarcasm. No need to edit your post -- I get it.

The problem for me is that I've had to navigate through a lot of BS, insults, profanity since starting this thread. And some of it comes out of nowhere -- so I've learned never to be surprised. I was hoping your post was a prank, but because of what others have posted it was also possible it wasn't.

Now that I better understand your humor I can chuckle. And I should point out there was another request you forgot to mention. Would you also like for me to serve you French toast and coffee in the morning?
  • #5,853
  • Aug 17, 2019 5:16am Aug 17, 2019 5:16am
Quoting robots4me
{quote} @FiveRows -- all's cool. Though I am serious I also value humor -- especially sarcasm. No need to edit your post -- I get it. The problem for me is that I've had to navigate through a lot of BS, insults, profanity since starting this thread. And some of it comes out of nowhere -- so I've learned never to be surprised. I was hoping your post was a prank, but because of what others have posted it was also possible it wasn't. Now that I better understand your humor I can chuckle. And I should point out there was another request you forgot to...
@robots4me
Be good, be happy, and be wise.
No need to serve up breakfast. If you can crack this money mindfield, I'll sail my yacht to your shores to shake your hand, and go out and have some fun.
  • #5,854
  • Aug 17, 2019 1:50pm Aug 17, 2019 1:50pm
thanks r4me for the magnificent system
less trades this week but very high accuracy though, especially on xauusd which made around 200 pips

also got in eurusd,eurgbp,euraud long and waiting for next week

may i ask approximately when will the bdx be avilable? will there be an EA or dashboard (with alert) for both auto and manual traders?

is the recommendation on tf and adr the same as previous setting? (4hr tf on weekly 100% adr, adr cup 70%+)

thanks
  • #5,855
  • Aug 17, 2019 4:05pm Aug 17, 2019 4:05pm
Quoting Zkk
thanks r4me for the magnificent system less trades this week but very high accuracy though, especially on xauusd which made around 200 pips also got in eurusd,eurgbp,euraud long and waiting for next week may i ask approximately when will the bdx be avilable? will there be an EA or dashboard (with alert) for both auto and manual traders? is the recommendation on tf and adr the same as previous setting? (4hr tf on weekly 100% adr, adr cup 70%+) thanks
@Zkk -- thanks for the good word. And I'm glad the system is working well for you.

I hope to release the BDX strategy by market opening on Monday -- i.e. sometime tomorrow night for me (PST).

Yes -- it will include the BDX indicator, along with single trading EA, dashboard EA and AllPairs EA -- just like the BD system.

As for settings, we may have different recommendations -- but I'll provide more details when it is actually released.
  • #5,856
  • Aug 17, 2019 11:26pm Aug 17, 2019 11:26pm
I just wanted to mention another instrument I traded; not sure how much difference it makes for the system to trade currencies vs crude oil vs Gold/Silver, but it worked again and again.

I traded oil manually, opened sell when signal appeared and it took me to the profit at the mid line.
I like to see more signals in real time when and how they appear to better understand it but so far ....it is like a dream come true.

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I also virtually traded Gold/Silver (just marked my entries and SL/TPs) and the results were consistent; it did hit TPs.

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Feels like it is too good to be true.lol..but it was for real. I am eager to test automated system to see if it will help me to correct my impatience and improve my entries. It especially might help traders in my time zone PST -8, since all the major action happens when we need some sleep for 8 to 4 job (assuming). Every bit of this system and great effort put in its creation is much appreciated.
  • #5,857
  • Aug 17, 2019 11:32pm Aug 17, 2019 11:32pm
@Cheiser

Yes it has certainly simplified my trading. Entries I found much safer with Heiken Ashi on BDX whereas original recipe got you in early sometimes and ConsecutiveCandles was sometimes too strict. So I think we reached a nice mid ground between safety and frequency of trades. Of course that is all based off of the previous bands so I am curious to see how it all works with the new non-repainting bands.

I think the best is yet to come with the auto exits based on Heiken Ashi Smoothed. This really frees us up to focus on entry and overall margin available for all the pairs we trading.
EX BBMA trader focusing on REE code.
  • #5,858
  • Aug 18, 2019 3:06am Aug 18, 2019 3:06am
"What has changed, though, is the setting that allowed you to choose a higher time frame for TMA -- that is gone. The time frame of the chart you attach the indicator to is the time frame used to draw the TMA bands."

Hello R4M,

until now I did use BD system double tracked...long/midterm on W1 and short/daytrading on D1 on M15/30. Especially I was very successful on D1/M30 manual daytrading with the BDX indicator. I would very much regret if that short/daytrading opportunity would be gone on the new BDX software...or did I understand something wrong?

Example of 2 day BDX shorttrading D1/M30:
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I never lose - either I win or I learn...
  • #5,859
  • Aug 18, 2019 3:33am Aug 18, 2019 3:33am
hello to all involved, I have now followed the forum of a - z and read everything. I am only a user and I would like to thank you very much for all your contributions. I think it is a very good system. I will test it live now. Here is my first entry, I will publish another screen.
I think that BDX is absolutely great.
thanks again to all
skipper13

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  • #5,860
  • Aug 18, 2019 8:58am Aug 18, 2019 8:58am
Quoting robots4me
{quote} @Zkk -- thanks for the good word. And I'm glad the system is working well for you. I hope to release the BDX strategy by market opening on Monday -- i.e. sometime tomorrow night for me (PST). Yes -- it will include the BDX indicator, along with single trading EA, dashboard EA and AllPairs EA -- just like the BD system. As for settings, we may have different recommendations -- but I'll provide more details when it is actually released.
Thank you very much!
Can't wait testing the bdx system
Hope it can set my hands free
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